Children's Book: Gorilla's Wisdom: Children's Picture Book On The Value Of True Friendship (Friendship Books for Kids)

Children's Book: Gorilla's Wisdom: Children's Picture Book On The Value Of True Friendship (Friendship Books for Kids)

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Teach Your Children the Power of True Friendship

Being a good friend requires you to always be there, and go to great lengths to help a friend in need. By reading this book to your child, you can teach them that a true friend will go great lengths to make their friend feel better.

Monkey and Rabbit are the jungle’s unlikely best friends, and they are inseparable. But after an accident, Rabbit becomes distant from Monkey. But Monkey isn’t going to let this friendship go. He seeks Gorilla, the wisest animal in the jungle, to give him advice. Gorilla’s advice, however, isn’t what Monkey expected. Gorilla can make Monkey a potion for Rabbit, but he needs the whisker of Tiger, the most feared animal in the jungle, as an ingredient.

  • Can Monkey get the whisker from Tiger?
  • Will Gorilla’s potion work? Why does it need Tiger’s whisker?
  • Can Monkey save his friendship with Rabbit?

Gorilla’s Wisdom is an exciting story that will teach your child how valuable friendship is. As Monkey conquers his fears to save his friendship with Rabbit, your child can learn to do the same. It also teaches children about the wisdom of elders, and teaches them to face their fears.

One lesson which you will walk away with after reading this book is best expressed in this inspirational by Arnold H. Glasgow’s, “A true friend never gets in your way unless you happen to be going down.” This story will teach your children how to help a friend in need, and will teach them what lengths you should go to in order to help that friend.

Gorilla’s Wisdom makes a great story for any parent to read to your kids, and its simplistic writing makes it a good for children just learning how to read. Whether you’re a parent or a teacher, you can’t go wrong reading this book. It has illustrations that will expand the imagination of your child, a lesson any child can understand, and an exciting story filled with twists and turns that will make any child want to keep reading.

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  • Dessie Ortiz

    I second Dear Zoo. Both of my kids loved that book. Also Good Night, Gorilla. Little Gorilla. Pat the Bunny.

  • Isobel Marquardt

    I suppose it kinda depends on how you define love. If it means romantic love, I'm sure you could find a book about friends that go on some kind of adventure in which no one has sex and no one dies. If friendship counts as love, though, you're gonna have a much harder time. As long as there aren't any other criteria for the book, many children's books don't involve love, sex, or death. Series like *The Boxcar Children*, or *The Magic Treehouse* (I think that's what it's called) probably have some books that don't involve those things. Even Goosebumps likely has a book or two without love, sex, or death.

  • Noemie Mohr

    There's been rumors going around that you're a karma whore op. Stealing your friends pics and posting them yourself... this true op?

  • Walton Harber

    Gotcha, thanks. So it is definitely an assassin bug (*Reduviidae* in suborder *Heteroptera*, the true bugs) like the other comment said and I think it's in the tribe *Harpactorini*, which is a very, very diverse group of bugs. I did a little bit of research and found *[Vesbius purpureus](https://www.google.com/search?q=vesbius+purpureus&nfpr=1&source=lnms&tbm=isch)* (Google Images link) to be at least a close match to your little friend there. I'm not sure it's the right species, but that species is spread all over southeast Asia. Anyway, like most assassin bugs, it's harmless to you but may stab you if handled.

  • Madisyn Parker

    We can say after see that picture that true friendship...

  • Graciela Grimes

    With all that Sistero revealed in his book (about Tommy's past in Europe) I'm honestly surprised their friendship survived. It kinda makes me happy to see them together again.

  • Carlo Kertzmann

    > I guess this is our core difference. Education is only positive if it is teaching something demonstrably true. Were the news articles I linked somehow false? > For instance, you could provide an education in ideology. Like you are doing with your child? > Teaching gun use to children is similar for 2A demagogues. Actually it's the same thing as teaching a child how to read or how to cook or how to use a hammer and a nail. It's only your ideology that refuses to allow you to see that. > The concept that guns are useful tools to make people safe just feels correct. It's not just feels my friend. http://www.whio.com/news/crime--law/man-killed-apparent-home-invasion-shot-chest/TBu4Y9BkplUlFaUwTM4bsM/ > Sure, there are rare instances you can point to, but on net, the data indicates that guns are not useful tools to make civilians more safe. The data? Like what? Seems to me those guns made those children safer. > Bottom line, any gun safety education should be designed based on evidence about whether keeping loaded guns in the house actually makes you safe. (And that evidence is lacking.) Lacking, he says. http://www.ktnv.com/news/crime/police-on-scene-of-homicide-in-centennial-hills http://sacramento.cbslocal.com/2017/03/02/home-invasion-robbery-suspect-shot-killed-by-homeowner-in-stanislaus-county/ http://www.koamtv.com/story/34375096/home-invasion-suspect-shot-and-killed-by-homeowner-in-baxter-springs http://www.modbee.com/news/local/crime/article136032068.html http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/01/03/police-wounded-homeowner-who-killed-home-invasion-suspect-acted-accordingly.html http://fox5sandiego.com/2017/02/08/lemon-grove-home-invasion-suspect-still-at-large/ http://www.ajc.com/news/crime--law/burglary-suspect-killed-gwinnett-home-invasion/0gBuz5F1Vjkhis4r5UXC2N/ http://www.al.com/news/mobile/index.ssf/2016/07/alabama_homeowner_kills_suspec.html http://www.fox19.com/story/32452010/2-shot-in-mt-airy-home-invasion-homicide-cops-respond http://www.kgw.com/news/local/reported-intruder-dead-homeowner-injured-in-se-portland/273037791 http://abc30.com/news/home-invasion-suspect-shot-and-killed-in-merced-county/1244985/ http://www.witn.com/content/news/Suspect-killed-during-Wayne-County-home-invasion-398047941.html http://wnct.com/2016/10/22/home-invasion-suspect-killed-by-homeowner-early-saturday-morning/ http://abc7.com/news/man-killed-in-downey-home-invasion-robbery;-1-suspect-outstanding/1163310/ http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/breaking-news/os-man-dead-home-invasion-sanford-20161031-story.html http://ktla.com/2017/02/07/father-shoots-kills-suspect-after-son-shot-by-intruder-in-san-diego-county-home-sheriffs-dept/ http://www.nbc12.com/story/33516326/19-year-old-suspect-dies-from-injuries-suffered-in-henrico-home-invasion http://www.theledger.com/news/20161101/police-seek-suspect-after-2-killed-in-sanford-home-invasion/1 http://kron4.com/2015/05/04/2-home-invasion-robbery-suspects-shot-killed-friday-identified/ http://fox8.com/2017/01/14/suspect-in-cleveland-home-invasion-shot-by-one-of-his-victims/ I could find more but I trust I have made my point with anyone reading this conversation. I don't expect you to see that point however. > First, we have no information that the girl was actually at risk from that house burglar who according to the report likely believed that the house was unoccupied. Wow. That is just such an incredibly weak argument. Tell you what. Leave your daughter at home alone and have someone break in. I'm sure you won't be worried in the slightest that your daughter might be at risk, right? The only recourse you and your daughter would have in those circumstances is hope that the burglar is a decent human being and won't rape and kill your daughter and/or that she is undiscovered. You may be happy with consigning your offspring to such a position but thankfully there are other humans who will not. I mean, there's no chance [something like this could ever happen to you](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheshire,_Connecticut,_home_invasion_murders). Or [this](https://www.stratfor.com/weekly/surviving-home-invasions From the first cited link: > According to Hayes' confession, the two men had planned to rob the Petit house under cover of darkness leaving the family bound, but unharmed. Hayes attributed the outcome to a change of plan. > During this time, Hayes and Komisarjevsky escalated the aggravated nature of their crimes: Komisarjevsky raped the 11-year-old Michaela. But yea, according to you, there is no evidence that that 12 year old was in any danger. Like I said, I'm sure you could deny the sky is blue or that fire is hot. > Second, it is entirely possible and relatively inexpensive to harden a house against break in. There isn't a single fortification that can be made that can't be undone. From my 2nd cited link: > The **multimillion dollar home** belonged to Savvas Savopoulos, the CEO of American Iron Works, a construction company that specializes in large buildings for commercial and government use, including the new Food and Drug Administration headquarters building. Somehow, I think a multimillion dollar home would have some decent locks. Also, you are extremely limited in your criminal thinking. It is not necessary to defeat locks when you can employ a ruse. > A home invasion robber must also plot out the robbery in more detail and include how they will gain entry to the home — either by stealth, a ruse or by force — as well as plan for a way to restrain or control the victims during the operation > Even if the invaders gain access by sneaking in late at night, as the perpetrators did in the Petit case, or under a ruse (such as delivering documents, as in the February 2007 home invasion of billionaire Ernest Rady in California) > Whether or not you believe handguns make sense for self defense, handguns certainly don't make sense as the first line of defense. According to you. So far, I haven't seen anything that makes me want to take your word for anything. The first line of defense is breached once they are inside of your house. > Instead of (as this mother apparently believed), installing a decent deadbolt lock on the back door. How do you know she didn't? You really think a deadbolt lock is going to stop someone from kicking in the door? http://www.abcactionnews.com/news/region-polk/winter-haven/two-men-kick-in-door-during-winter-haven-home-invasion http://www.easttexasmatters.com/news/local-news/police-2-robbers-kick-in-door-at-tyler-home-rob-residents/303863127 http://www.krmg.com/news/local/door-kicked-during-home-invasion/0QfoScec3TOmnsentafjGO/ http://patch.com/virginia/fairfaxcity/door-kicked-during-home-invasion-fairfax-area-police http://www.cbs46.com/story/29647353/door-kicked-open-in-early-morning-home-invasion http://wtvr.com/2017/01/19/grandmother-shaken-after-door-kicked-in-during-attempted-home-invasion/ And my personal favorite: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/true-crime/wp/2016/09/24/armed-intruders-kicked-in-the-door-what-they-found-was-a-woman-opening-fire/?utm_term=.3e98b8bf7340 So, considering that deadbolt locks don't seem to stop doors from being kicked in (and you can clearly see a deadbolt lock in the last article) what do you expect to do when your first line of defense fails? > And to advise her daughter to back herself into a corner behind an unlocked hollow core door? Strategically stupid, and really crappy advice from a parent. You forgot to mention, with a gun. Hide in a closet and if anyone tries to open the door, shoot them. Oh look, it worked. Pretty much negates all of your not so clever armchair quarterbacking. > A much better strategy, if you want to keep your children safe against home break in is to harden the exterior of your house, then to install a solid core door with deadbolt on a defensible interior room. And what happens when they kick that in? > Almost certainly, advising your child to play hide and seek to surprise a burglar by going 'booo! bang!' is stupid parenting. Good thing that's not what anyone advocated. Personally, I would have told my daughter to do the same thing. Find a place to hide and shoot the intruders if they find you. > Even a dim wit burglar would flee immediately if they were confronted with a locked hardened interior room and they heard someone yell that they have called the police. I highly suspect you have never had an encounter with a criminal in your entire life. Your complete lack of knowledge is really showing. .

  • Cleve Reichert

    **Partial transcript:** > Since her years as Hermione ended, Emma Watson has fought to assert her own identity. Now that she has found her voice—most notably as a U.N. ambassador—she’s revamping a classic stereotype, the Disney princess, in *Beauty and the Beast*, the live-action musical coming out in March. Watson talks to Vanity Fair about her metamorphosis from child star to leading woman. > Emma Watson and I are standing on the 23rd Street platform of an uptown-bound E train in New York City and we’re littering. Literally. And literature-ly. The 26-year-old actress is scattering hardcover copies of Maya Angelou’s book *Mom & Me & Mom* throughout the station—tucking them between pipes, placing them on benches, atop the emergency call box—in hopes that New York commuters will pick them up and put down their smartphones. This display of civil disobedience was conceived by Books on the Underground, a London-based organization that plants books on public transportation for travelers to discover. > “We’re being ninjas,” she says with a conspiratorial grin as she digs in a big black rucksack of books. “If there were anyone to be a ninja for, it’d be Maya Angelou.” > Watson is one of the most famous women in the world, the child star who skyrocketed to global fame at the age of 11 playing brainy Hermione Granger in the *Harry Potter* movies. Next month, she’s back on the big screen as Belle in Disney’s *Beauty and the Beast*, the big-budget live-action musical—she sings too!—which broke the record for most viewed new movie trailer. (That’s 127 million views in its first 24 hours, beating *Fifty Shades Darker*’s record.) > But today, she’s makeup-free, her hair shoved into a bun, and she’s wearing a nondescript dark wool coat over a baggy black sweater, completely blending in with New York’s distracted mass-transit masses. > “It’s good that we’re spreading a little bit of love,” she says. As she removes the last book, a train pulls into the station. She hops in, places it on a seat, hops out, and watches from the platform as the doors close and a young man inquisitively picks it up. > Aboveground, over coffee at a nearby café, Watson explains why she thinks reading is “sacred.” There’s the obvious, professional reason: *Harry Potter* was a literary sensation before becoming the blockbuster franchise that made her famous and a millionaire many times over. But books are also rooted in her deepest personal experiences. > “Books gave me a way to connect with my father,” she says. “Some of my most precious and treasured moments . . .” She trails off and, unexpectedly for someone who is known for her composure, tears up. Her parents divorced when she was young. > “I just remember him reading to me before bed and how he used to do all the different voices. I grew up on film sets, and books were my connection to the outside world. They were my connection to my friends back at school because if I was reading what they were reading we’d have something in common. Later in life, they became an escape, a means of empowerment, a friend I could rely on.” > [...] She was a shy teenager, but friendly, intelligent, and down to earth. Watson is described as much the same today: “She’s way more like a real person than a movie star,” according to Gloria Steinem, who became a friend when Watson reached out to discuss the changing face of feminist activism. (More on that later.) > [...] Emma and I got to know each other, and I visited her on the sets of the last two *Harry Potter* films. But as the *Potter* train pulled into its last station, I noticed the clouds of melancholy forming over her fairy-tale life. > “I’d walk down the red carpet and go into the bathroom,” she remembers of the last few premieres. > “I had on so much makeup and these big, fluffy, full-on dresses. I’d put my hands on the sink and look at myself in the mirror and say, ‘Who is this?’ I didn’t connect with the person who was looking back at me, and that was a very unsettling feeling.” > What few people knew when she enrolled at Brown University in 2009 was that she had a desire to give up acting and walk away from Hollywood altogether. > “I was finding this fame thing was getting to a point of no return,” she remembers. “I sensed if this was something I was ever going to step away from it was now or never.” > She loved performance and telling stories, but she had to reckon with the consequences of “winning the lottery,” as she calls getting the part of Hermione, when she was nine years old and literally still losing baby teeth. As an adult, “it dawned on me that this is what you’re really signing up for.” > The question most people ask when a celebrity moans about being famous: If you hate the fanfare so much, why keep making movies? > Watson asked herself that all the time. > “I’ve been doing this since I was 10 or 11, and I’ve often thought, I’m so wrong for this job because I’m too serious; I’m a pain in the ass; I’m difficult; I don’t fit,” she says. “But as I’ve got older, I’ve realized, No! Taking on those battles, the smaller ones and the bigger ones, is who I am.” > She recently found the courage to say no to selfie-seekers. “For me, it’s the difference between being able to have a life and not. If someone takes a photograph of me and posts it, within two seconds they’ve created a marker of exactly where I am within 10 meters. They can see what I’m wearing and who I’m with. I just can’t give that tracking data.” > Sometimes, she’ll decline a photo but offer up an autograph or even a chat—“I’ll say, ‘I will sit here and answer every single *Harry Potter* fandom question you have but I just can’t do a picture’ ”—and much of the time people don’t bother. > [She never says 'no' to pictures with children, however.] > I tell Watson I’ve watched other actors, like Reese Witherspoon, walk down the street and happily pose with fans—and suddenly it becomes clear that the fans of *Sweet Home Alabama* are different from *Harry Potter* fans. For mostly better and occasionally worse, the *Potter* books and films not only captured the imagination of millions of people but, for many of them, changed their lives. It’s something Watson is deeply aware of. > “I have met fans that have my face tattooed on their body. I’ve met people who used the *Harry Potter* books to get through cancer. I don’t know how to explain it, but the *Harry Potter* phenomenon steps into a different zone. It crosses into obsession. A big part of me coming to terms with it was accepting that this is not your average circumstances.” > (Since the first movie premiered, in 2001, when Watson was 11, there have been numerous incidents with stalkers.) > [...] When she was at Brown, Watson went to a Harvard football game and *The Harvard Voice*, a student magazine, live-tweeted as its staff stalked her at the stadium. I remember at Watson’s 18th-birthday party in London, the photographers outside had a bounty on who could get a picture taken up her skirt. > She’s not exaggerating her security concerns, either. She purchased her house sight unseen over a Skype call with a real-estate agent because it had a paparazzi-proof entrance. > “Privacy for me is not an abstract idea,” she says. > [...] Back in college, Watson was like most 20-year-olds, struggling to carve out her own identity, only she did it in front of a rabid fan base and a never-ending celebrity-news cycle. She made international headlines when she chopped Hermione’s long locks into a closely shorn pixie. > We don’t need Sigmund Freud to read into the symbolism of that haircut, and to this day Watson declares, “It’s the sexiest I’ve ever felt.” > She got into yoga and meditation; being the Type A person she is, though, she wasn’t content just doing it. “Typical Emma,” says *Harry Potter* producer David Heyman, who has remained a close friend. “She had to become a certified meditation teacher.” > Watson shied away from doing additional big-budget studio films and instead focused on smaller movies...and sought out auteur directors. [...] She turned down big offers: from lucrative cosmetics deals to critically acclaimed scripts. (Emma Stone’s role in *La La Land* was reportedly developed for Watson.) > “There have been hard moments in my career when I’ve had an agent or a movie producer say, ‘You are making a big mistake,’ ” Watson says. “But what’s the point of achieving great success if you feel like you’re losing your freakin’ mind? I’ve had to say, ‘Guys, I need to go back to school,’ or ‘I just need to go home and hang out with my cats.’ People have looked at me and been like, ‘Is she insane?’ But, actually, it’s the opposite of insane." > What ultimately helped clarify her purpose was—you guessed it—reading. Last January, Watson started Our Shared Shelf, her bi-monthly online book club. She used Twitter (more than 23 million followers) to crowd-source the name, and chose Gloria Steinem’s book *My Life on the Road* as her first selection. > [...] “In so many ways, she’s not like we think of movie stars,” Hooks told me. “She’s [part of] a very different, new breed who are interested in being whole and having a holistic life, as opposed to being identified with just wealth and fame.” > [...] Maturing from Hermione to Belle is a true coming-of-age story for her. > “When I finished the film, it kind of felt like I had made that transition into being a woman on-screen,” she says. Belle is “absolutely a Disney princess, but she’s not a passive character—she’s in charge of her own destiny.”

  • Elton Batz

    [Movie starts with the 2004 Paramount Pictures and Nickelodeon Movies logos] [the titles read "Paramount Pictures Presents", "A Nickelodeon Movies Production" and "in association with United Plankton Pictures"] [Seagulls flying across they sky while the screen pans and the open credits start. We then see a pirate on a look-out post. He moves upwards to get a better look at something with his telescope. The screen then shows the view in the telescope of a pirate on a dinghy] Pirate on the Dinghy: [with a trunk] I got it! I got it! I got it! Look-out Post Pirate: [Squints] Dinghy ahoy. [He then looks down to tell someone something] Dinghy off the port bow. Dinghy off the port bow! Two Pirates: Dinghy off the port bow. Dinghy off the port bow! [off-screen] Dinghy off the port bow! One Pirate: Captain, dinghy off the... [He is slammed in the face by a door as the captain walks on deck] Captain: Dinghy. [Lets the pirate in the dinghy onto the ship, along with the trunk] Pirate Formerly on the Dinghy: I got it! I got it. Captain: Where is it? Pirate Formerly on the Dinghy: It's right here, captain. Captain: [Opens the trunk] I never thought I'd see it with me own eye. Tickets to The SpongeBob Movie! [The pirates cheer and they sail to the movie theater, singing the SpongeBob SquarePants Theme Song] Pirates: ♪Who lives in a pineapple under the sea? SpongeBob SquarePants. Absorbent and yellow and porous is he? SpongeBob SquarePants. If nautical nonsense be something you wish? SpongeBob SquarePants. Then drop on the deck and flop like a fish? SpongeBob SquarePants. SpongeBob SquarePants. SpongeBob SquarePants. Sponge-Bob Square-Pants. SpongeBob SquarePants. Sponge-Bob Square-Pants. SpongeBob SquarePants. SpongeBob SquarePants. SpongeBob SquarePants. SpongeBob SquarePants. Sponge-Bob Square-Pants!♪ [The pirates hog the snack bar and get some popcorn. They rush into the theater room, where the movie starts] French Narrator: [We start out on the familiar Bikini Atoll Island.] Ah,the sea. So mysterious, so beautiful. So... uhh... wet. [The camera submerges underwater until it stops in front of the Krusty Krab.] Our story begins in Bikini Bottom's popular undersea eatery, the Krusty Krab restaurant, where... [The camera pans down into Bikini Bottom in front of the Krusty Krab] Police: Back off! Back off! [waves arms to back off at reporters/citizens] French Narrator: Hey, wait a minute. What is happening? [The screen pans out to show the Krusty Krab is surrounded by cops.] Mr. Krabs: Please settle down. [Referring to the Krusty Krab] We've got a situation in there. I'd rather not discuss 'till me manager gets here. Female Fish: [off-screen] Look, there he is. [A Black boat with orange flames drives up, SpongeBob's leg wearing a black boot with an orange snake on it in the shape of an "S" is out of the vehicle when it is stopped, SpongeBob climbs out of the limousine. He walks toward the Krusty Krab and blows a bubble] SpongeBob: Talk to me, Krabs. Mr. Krabs: Oh. It started out as a simple order: a Krabby Patty with cheese. When the customer took a bite, no cheese! [he cries, but SpongeBob slaps him] SpongeBob: Get a hold of yourself, Eugene. I'm going in. [SpongeBob walks in and sees a fish, extremely nervous, looking at his Krabby Patty.] Take it easy, friend. I'm the manager of this establishment. [He puts a briefcase down on a table.] Everything's gonna be just fine. Phil: I'm really scared here, man. SpongeBob: [Opens the briefcase.] You got a name? Phil: [Nervously] Phil. SpongeBob: [Puts on gloves.] You got a family, Phil? [Phil chokes over his words, unable to speak. SpongeBob snaps.] Come on, Phil, stay with me. Let's hear about that family. Phil: I got a wife and two beautiful children. SpongeBob: [Puts on a headset from the briefcase.] That's what it's all about. I want you to do me a favor, Phil. Phil: What? SpongeBob: [SpongeBob picks a slice of cheese out from his briefcase with some tweezers.] Say "cheese". [SpongeBob dramatically and slowly attempts to put the cheese on the Krabby Patty. He then kicks the door open, Phil in his arms. The crowd gasps. The cheese on the Krabby Patty sparkles.] Order up. All [But SpongeBob]: [Cheer and then lift SpongeBob up on their shoulders.] Three cheers for the manager! Hip! Hip![Honk!] Hip! Hip![Honk!] Hip! Hip! [Honk!] [Honk continues from dream, the screen now shows SpongeBob in his Pineapple home's bedroom. He turns off his honking foghorn alarm clock.] SpongeBob: Hooray! Gary! I had that dream again! And it’s finally going to come true! [He runs over to his calendar.] Today! Sorry about this, calendar. [He tears off the calendar page for the day before to reveal "March 7". On the page, it has a picture of the Krusty Krab 2 with rainbows and hearts around it.] Because today is the grand-opening ceremony for The Krusty Krab 2, where Mr. Krabs will announce the new manager. Gary: Meow. SpongeBob: Who's it gonna be, Gary? Well, let's ask my wall of 374 consecutive employee-of-the-month awards. [Camera pulls up, revealing many "employee of the month" portraits] SpongeBob E.O.T.M Awards: SpongeBob SquarePants! SpongeBob: I'm ready. Promotion. [Goes into walk-in shower, Eats soap, Inserts a hose in his head, Puffs up until soap comes out, SpongeBob pulls out paper-like fabric, folds into his pants, back springs off, revealing his rear, brushes eyes with toothpaste, wipes off foam] Cleanliness is next to manager-lines. [Goes outside and runs around in circles] I'm ready. Promotion. I'm ready. Promotion. [The scene is zooming to Squidward's house, and then cuts to Squidward in his bathroom] Squidward: ♪La da dee, la da doo, la da dum, La da dee, la da doo, la da dum.♪ Squidward and SpongeBob: [In unision] ♪La da dee, la da doo, la da dum,La da d...♪ Squidward: Huh? SpongeBob: ♪...ee, la da doo, la da dum, Bum Bum Bum, Da da da...♪ Squidward: [interrupts him, and covers himself] SpongeBob! What are you doing in here? SpongeBob: I have to tell you something, Squidward. Squidward: Whatever it is, can't it wait until we get to work? SpongeBob: There's no shower at work. Squidward: What do you want? SpongeBob: I just wanted to say I'll be thanking you in my managerial acceptance speech today. Squidward: Get out! [kicks him out the window] SpongeBob: Okay. see you at the ceremony. [Runs into Patrick, who comes out of his rock] Patrick: That sounds like the manager of the new Krusty Krab 2.[Realizes that he doesn't have his trunks on] Oops. Hold on.[Rock closes, with Patrick on it. Then it opens again] Congratulations, buddy. SpongeBob: Oh, thanks, Patrick. And tonight, after my big promotion, we're gonna party till we're purple. Patrick: Yay! I love being purple! SpongeBob: We're going to the place where all the action is. Patrick: You don't mean...? SpongeBob: Oh, I mean. SpongeBob and Patrick: Goofy Goober's Ice Cream Party Boat! [Rock closes up on them, and opens up a few seconds later. They now have Goofy Goober hats, and a record begins playing on a record player beside Patrick] SpongeBob & Patrick: ♪Oh, I'm a Goofy Goober, yeah. You're a Goofy Goober, yeah. We're all Goofy Goobers, yeah. Goofy, goofy, goober, goober, yeah!♪ SpongeBob: [Notices his watch] I'd better get going. I'm ready. Promotion. I'm ready. Promotion. Patrick: Good luck, SpongeBob. Hey, look for me at the ceremony. I got a little surprise for you. I'm a Goofy Goober, yeah. [Bounces away] [The scene cuts to a large crowd gathered in front of the Krusty Krab. Perch Perkins is on TV, reporting] Perch Perkins: Hello, Bikini Bottom! Perch Perkins here, coming to you live from in front of The Krusty Krab restaurant, for years the only place to get a delicious and mouthwatering Krabby Patty. Until today, that is. That's right, folks. Longtime owner Mr. Krabs is opening a new restaurant called The Krusty Krab 2. First of all, congratulations, Mr. Krabs. [Krabs has a big grin on his face] Mr. Krabs: Hello. I like money. Perch Perkins: What inspired you to build a second Krusty Krab right next door to the original? Mr. Krabs: Money. [Everyone laughs] [Plankton is watching the entire scenario out the window of the Chum Bucket] Plankton: Curses! It's not fair. Krabs is being interviewed by Perch Perkins, and I've never even had one customer! [the word "customer" is heard echoing in the kitchen. Plankton groans and moans while sweating] Karen: Don't get worked up again, Plankton, I just mopped the floors. Plankton: Oh, Karen, my computer wife, if only I could have managed to steal the secret to Krabs' success, the formula for the Krabby Patty. Then people would line up to eat at my restaurant. Lord knows I've tried. I've exhausted every evil plan in my filing cabinet...from A to Y. Karen: A to Y? Plankton: Yeah, A to Y. You know, the alphabet. Karen: What about Z? Plankton: Z? Karen: Z. The letter after Y. Plankton: [Searches through cabinet] W, X, Y, Z. Plan Z! Here it is, just like you said. Karen: Oh, boy. Plankton: [Suggestively] Oh! Oh! ^((trimmed due to comment size limit)^)

  • Gregoria Cassin

    Just going to throw out a few more errors in your book, while we're here. Hopefully you do answer my question about if they're intentional lies or if you just didn't do thorough research, but either answer seems to detract from your credibility on the subject. I am hoping if you actually do have sources verifying any of the things I list, you'll provide them to clear it up. > The bones in the barrel were discovered first, then the burn pit second. This was about Nov 9 or 10. The barrel was collected on 11/6, and the bones recovered on 11/8. > Re the Manitowoc County Coroner: "She immediately grabbed supplies and went to the Averys. MTSO would not allow her on the scene." Where does she claim to have done to the Avery's? She claims she called, and they told her she was not needed. They already had the Crime Lab there and the bones were being sent to a forensic anthropologist. > There is a local long distance helicopter shot shown on TV showing one of the skid loaders pouring out dirt and rubble from the pit onto a level piece of lawn, and a sheriff going through it with a steel rake. This of course would potentially destroy evidence. This shot is from days after the initial excavation, when they were digging up the hardened soil around the pit to see if they found anything else. A skid loader was not used to excavate the bones from the pit. > The Calumet County coroner was eventually called, but he claimed he was only called to provide sifting equipment and gloves. He said he normally takes pictures of the site, but didn't in this case because the site had been altered. Are you talking about Ertl? From the DCI Crime Lab? Did he moonlight as Calumet County Coroner or something? > Scott T claimed he saw a fire at Steven's that night, but he gave multiple accounts of how large the fire was ranging from three feet to ten. Your source, I presume, is Making a Murderer? Because they edited that testimony. Scott was originally asked if the fire was "at least" 3 feet high. He says yes, at least. Later he estimates 8-10 feet. He never contradicts himself, but in the tv show, they cut out the words "at least" so viewers think he does. > Only one tooth was found in Steven's pit. Actually, two fragments. Twenty-four fragments were found, not two. > Prosecution surmised that Steven pulled all but one of her teeth out OK this is obviously untrue, as I said above you're wrong about only one tooth being found, but I'm soooo curious as to what your source is for this! Who is out there claiming that prosecution said Avery pulled out all of her teeth but one? > Making a Murderer showed that the vial had been tampered with. Whoever had accessed the blood had done so surreptitiously. Well, as surreptitiously as you can with Avery's own lawyers sitting right there watching. Because as we all know, the tape was cut in 2002, during a meeting with Avery's own lawyers, and the exact time and date were noted. *Unless* of course you're referring to Buting's visit in July- Making a Murderer doesn't tell you this, but Buting, Strang, Pete, Moira, and Laura all visited the blood vial before the grand "red letter day" when they finally let prosecution in on their knowledge of it. > [LeBeau] then proceeded at length to blind the jury with the scientific details of mass spectrometers, analytical chemistry and LC/MS/MS technology. How is describing the scientific process "blinding the jury"? Wouldn't you actually want the jury to hear the science and consider how reliable they find it? > When Buting objected that the defence didn't have any time to come up with their own tests or to test whether the protocol was valid, the prosecution responded that it would be validated and not to worry. Buting discovered the vial back in July 2006. *He's* the one who sprung it on prosecution just weeks before the trial, not vice versa. He hid knowledge of it until Dec 9, and arranged to finally go visit together (as opposed to his many visits alone) on Dec 14, the day before the deadline for general discovery. Defense had plenty of time to come up with their own tests. > The FBI's official final report claimed that they had a low limit of detection. Janine determined that their claim was false and misleading. [...] They reached that limit by injecting pure EDTA into the machine. Yes, they did test the machine that way. They *also* tested it's method LOD, by swabbing up dried blood and mixing it in solution, exactly like they did with the swabs from the car. > Janine saw that their calibration was problematic because in Steven Avery's case the EDTA was nine years old. No one knew whether EDTA would still be present in a vial of blood after nine years. Yes they did, because they tested the blood from the vial. EDTA was still found, in levels similar to a fresh vial. They also tested almost 3-year-old dried blood spots, and found EDTA in 100% of them. But we're supposed to believe the EDTA degraded in a year and a half between 10/31 and the test? > Under cross-examination, Janine was just as strong and convincing. Janine admitted on cross that she hadn't read the entire report that closely. I thought that made her a lot less convincing, but that's subjective. > When asked about [the Mok "family tree" email] Moira Demos grew immediately angry and replied, "That statement is incredibly offensive. This family has deep bonds, an incredibly sound moral system, and has been vilified by people who don't know them." This is more an issue with Moira then you. This family has multiple convictions for sexual assault (including of minors), domestic violence, assault with a deadly weapon, buglary, animal abuse, battery, videotaping young children changing, drunk driving... I question her ability to judge a "sound moral system." > Griesbach contradicted his reliance on science by stating in Indefensible that the most solid evidence of Steven's guilt is Brendan Dassey's confession. Where does he say that? > His actions demonstrated that any residual of the person he was during the cat incident had become non-existent. His actions? You mean writing death threats to Lori? Sending his kids letters with graphic drawings saying he was going to kill their mother? Refusing any sort of counseling ever after he admitted to being physically abusive? Beating Jodi when he was released? His friends and family members, including the underage girl herself, all give accounts of him carrying on a sexual relationship with a teenage relative of his. His friend Tammy reports him grabbing the breasts of 12 and 13-year-old girls saying, "When you need a piece, you need a piece." *Those* actions demonstrate that the person he used to be was non-existent? > According to [Sandra Morris], Steven was stalking her with field glasses and running out onto the road naked when she was driving to work at 5:30am. No, Sandra Morris' neighbor reported seeing him harass her. > Kratz manufactured a story about Teresa stating that Steven had creeped her out by once answering the door in a towel. Steven had answered the door in a towel, but not to Teresa. It had been to the woman assigned that photo route before Teresa. No, Teresa's coworker Dawn reported that story. It was in fact Teresa, although you're right that the prior photographer assigned to his route was also highly creeped out by him. > Due to a tainted jury pool, 129 of 130 potential jury members stated during jury selection that they believed in Steven's guilt. I remember this line from Making a Murderer too. However, those of us who read the voir dire interviews know it is not true. You, earlier on this thread, admit to not having read the actual interviews.

  • Marilyne Rath

    > Ok, be sure. But don't be surprised if she won't do as you advice her. Or if you can't properly explain it to her so she could understand what HPV and Gardasil are. Thinking that she will do as you say is just as idiotic as thinking that people with high IQs can earn enough money. I never said she would as I say. That's the thing about letting people make their own decisions. It sounds like you are the one wanting me to be a controlling parent. > Bad parenting. Again. Why should I consider your parenting opinions? Are you parent? Do you work with children? It seems like you are just going back to your bullying and guilting tactics. Not a surprise really, but kind of sad. > You're a broken record alright. Vaccination is already well understood and studied. Your brain can't comprehend that because it doesn't want to. What a stubborn parent. Cancer prevention is working best when it comes from multiple sources. Not just discussions with your kids, because those won't last for your whole life. You could die tomorrow and who will explain it to your daughter or son that HPV can be spread even when using a condom? Eh? So you are not only an expert in vaccinations and parenting but also a cancer expert. That is quite impressive. If I die then my kids have much more serious risk factors to worry about associated with only having one parent. I'm sure Merck & Co., Inc advertising campaign will do a fine job getting the message across. I'm not worried about that. > Bad parenting. Again. I'm a broken record? lol. > You clearly didn't and you still don't understand vaccinations. I doubt your kids will since you'll influence them. It's bad parenting because you're trying to control their lives. In a bad way. I'm not controlling there lives, so I don't know what you are talking about. You are the one who wants me to make irreversible decisions for them when they could make the decision for themselves when they are a little older. You are the person who wants more control. Not me. > When they'll start their sexual activity, how many partners will they have to prevent contracting HPV yadda tadda. Again, it is their decision how many sexual partners they have. Not mine. I'm just trying to help advise them to make the best decision they can for their lives. > yes, because that always works. Your kids are not a number. You don't know what could happen, when or where. Just because you calculate (by who knows what formula. do you even know how epidemiology formulas work?) something, it doesn't mean it's gonna go your way. Are you suffering from an autistic disorder by any chance? Never heard someone who actually thinks that calculating your chances of getting cancer or contracting a disease or the risks of vaccination thinks it's a good way to parent their kids. You're assuming again that you can control every move your kids take, every external factor that will affect them or any mutation that they'll carry inside them. Ridiculous. I guess you don't understand probability very well or life for that matter. All decisions in life are a series of risk and reward trade offs. Pretending that vaccinations/medications are not one of them is quite dangerous. > Bad parenting. Again. Keep saying that and maybe it will make you feel better about your own parents. That is the only reason I can imagine you continue to beat that drum. Must be something traumatic that happened in your own childhood. > Yes, tell that to my friend who died at 24 from cervical cancer. Married with her highschool sweetheart. I bet she would've loved to hear that kids can get a vaccine but parents refuse to give it to them because they calculated their odds. That is a very sad story. I'm sorry to hear that happened. Do they know how she got cervical cancer? > Or my friend who died 2 months ago from Penumonia. She thought she had a cold. And she died on Christmas Eve. I bet she didn't calculate the risk of severes symptoms when she got sick because she never thought that she could die. But hey, you people know better what's best for you, right? I'm very sorry to hear about that. Why is there so much tragedy in your life? I have known no one who has died from a vaccine preventable disease. Why haven't these people taken medications to prevent the diseases themselves? > Nevermind that there are studies that show you vaccines offer immunity against those deadly diseases. The risks of having a fever is more important for you guys. So smart and educated with your calculations. I agree with the studies. I'm still entailed to weigh my options and try to effect the best outcome for my children. Chances are exposure to one of the vaccine preventable disease will only produce a fever level severity symptom anyway. But there I go with my calculating again. > It does. But you're ridiculously bad at understanding that. What you just said is so moronic that it makes my brain spin inside my skull. Value judgement. More like: bad parenting... Again! Trust Dr Sears, do not trust thousands and thousands of immunologists. Because why the fuck not. I don't consume every product on the market just because it is safe. I'm sure you don't either. I know you want vaccines to be in a special category, but they are not. They are optional medicines which are absolutely not needed for a full and healthy life. > 17 deaths for unvaccinated kids in my country. From measles. I appreciate that, but I don't live where you live. We have a totally different situation here in North Carolina. I have no idea what is best to do in Romania, but here in North Carolina measles is very rare. > Yeah, for now. Then you'll tell him that you calculated the chances of him getting infected and infecting others with HPV and you'll tell him that it's not really necessary to get the vaccine as long as he won't have too many sexual partners. He's gonna nod, agree with you, and then sleep with an infected girl. And then he'll infect another one, who might even marry. And then she'll have cancer and die, leaving your cute son alone. How do these chances sound for you? That's a story you are using to try to scare me. It isn't working. And you are putting all the weight on my son. It is also the woman's responsibility. If she gets a vaccine then she will be fine. Correct? Anyway, I do not condone anything you imagine in your story. I am not going to encourage that behavior with my son and he will be aware of the dangers in harming others. I'm sorry for what happened to your friend, but that is not my or my sons story. > It is, because you're wrongfully assuming they don't need those. Are you telling me I need vaccinations to survive? You have brought that up multiple times. You do not need vaccinations to survive. Stop being a hyperbolic lair to try and scare me! > Bad parenting. Again. How many kids do you have again? > Sure, not required to survive unless you get infected with something that would've been preventable. I'm sure the parents of the kids who died from measles thought the same thing. Vaccination isn't that important. I'll immunize them with death. What's better and more final than that? You are just being a hyperbolic asshole now. Most likely that will not happen and you know it. A controlling bully is what you are. > Yeah? Yet I'm not the one trying to fool you to buy my book ;) I didn't buy the book. ;) > Only a narcissist would think that taking care of themselves, kids are actually rebelling against their parents. You sound exactly like my parents. What a surprise! I had a hunch this whole discussion was more about your childhood traumas than me. Of course, that is probably true for most people, including me. Know thyself. > And the most asshole-ish comment of the day comes from you. :) > Again, you and your calculations. Have you taken in consideration that I live in a country where doctors are paid with 300 euros per month? And that I cannot afford them because of that? No, of course not. Because you calculated that a smart person should be earning enough money just because they're smart. With a vaccine that costs around 160 euros per dose and a rent that makes 240 euros, I guess you might get it through your tiny brain that not everything goes as planned or as you calculated it. I was just curious really. I guess you choose to stay poor for some reason. Maybe family or friends. I don't know. Maybe you aren't as smart as you say. You could migrate to a location where you could make more money of course. You also wouldn't have to worry about disease as much. Something to think about. At least it would be for me, if I was living in Romania with a ceiling to earning potential.

  • Heber Vandervort

    Hey, (WARNING VERY LONG POST, sry, hope you can stick through it all) > I don't think we get the full (or accurate) picture over here in the US about life in Iran That is indeed true, even the most liberal American such as CNN or YouTube channels such as the Young Turks tend to villainize Iran and its actions due to how the disconnect in relationship of the two nations has been presented by the heavily lobbied politicians and media organizations for almost 40 years. Alright here I go answering your Questions. (I do have to disclose that I went to an international school and the American University in Dubai and currently live in Europe, but I do have plenty of family living in Iran and I do often visit) 1. Well I think plenty of Americans are perfectly fine, I have some family and some friends that live there and I have med a bunch of Americans during my university and school days and they are mostly decent people. They can't really hold their alcohol and they do have plenty of brainwashed attitudes and beliefs about things in the Middle East, but many of the ones I met were pretty open minded to learning the reality of the situation. I have had the unfortunate luck of spending hours trying to explain to some more conservative Americans how their views are just simple not accurate and the facts they are presenting in the discussing are.... "alternative" :D. However I think every country has some of those stubborn people on both the conservative and the progressive sides. My family, many of whom live in very small towns and some are Jewish Iranians, like Americans and many american classical movies and songs. I think some of the modern movies and songs are too sexualized for them but they do like some of the modern rock and house music. About America, well there are plenty of problems from how America came to be, the issue with killing millions of native Americans, stealing their land and ruining ancient holy sites are just some of these issues. Then there is slavery and racism, sexism and the modern slavery and corporatism. I think the concept America itself is a giant propaganda that hides a lot of misconduct under the promise of prosperity. Capitalism lacks emotion and is purely based on individualism which has led to such a horrible disparity in economic equality. The government is absolutely garbage, but this is not because of the politicians alone, its because of the modern culture. There is a disconnect between people and the leadership and many of the people just seem to not care about policies and the works of their governments. Obama put the harshest economic sanctions on us, with no real evidence or reason. Using propaganda and lobbying by the very powerful Zionists and Saudis, at a time when oil prices were their highest in history, we were banned from selling oil... we were cut off from the world. Our currency crashed and everything we owned was suddenly worth a quarter of its value. Imagine that. If you owned a house worth $200k it was suddenly worth 50. At a time when our country with a population of 75% bellow the age of 30 should've been booming we went into recession. All because we refused to bow down to America and its allies, because we said yes our government has loads of issue, but we don't want an outsider to intervene. Obama said once that America is a friend of the Iranian people, please tell me who would do that to his friends? make them starve at the age they are suppose to grow the most. (all of this is not even taking into account the 1953 coup which is another looooong example of the American and British government fucking Iranian people over to have their puppet in leadership.) 2, 3 and 4. Equality is the most important topic that is currently hot in the Iranian parliament. If you don't know, last year 60% of University graduates in Iran were women and Iranian women are also leading the country to a technological boom with their innovation and entrepreneurial skills. While Iran suffers from a lot of religious-social laws such as wearing the hijab. Laws are not very different for men and women when it comes to career or education. (This does not take into account that there is still a huge sexism issue in how women are treated in many situations) I believe women are the leading force in change in Iran and as the current generation of conservatives start to... retire(?), Iranian women will have a very active role in the politics of the country. In fact in the last parliament election in Feb 2016, the number of elected women surpassed the number of elected clerics for the first time. There is still plenty of work to be done to change laws such as wearing hijab and so on, but these laws are directly linked to Islam and while a large portion of the population is against hijab and excessive Islamic laws, I think many people including myself are anxious about how fast these changes to be made. We are a country with thousands of years of history and culture, and there is a need to for careful planning to modernize our culture and laws without over-westernizing, if that makes sense. In general in Iran, your religion does not cause any attention of friction with anyone. The problem is promoting beliefs other than the Abrahamic religions is seen as unlawful do to the "Islamic law". This is currently being debated as well but this again has to do with the modernizing of laws and how fast these changes are to be made. People should be able to have whatever belief they want, but the question of education during the early years of children's lives is by far the most concerning aspect of allowing other beliefs to be openly practiced. I have some Jewish family and friends and they have faced no issues living a successful and eventful life in Iran (one even lives in a deeply religious city called Qom). Churches and synagogues can be found in most cities that have any sort of religious minority living in it. Of course there is always those very few racist bigots that exist in any country who sometimes even do hateful things, but that's just the norm in a society I guess. Homosexuality is something that's complicated. I believe all of the LGBT community deserves to have equality. The problem is that in the Iranian culture there is a general issue with "public displays of affection" (PDA). This is not unique to the LGBT community and if you are making out with your partner in the street, doesn't matter who you are, you will be in trouble. There is many other issues that I do not know enough to get into, but we have a looong way to go to reach equality for homosexuals. 5. Well in primary school when I was in Iran, we learned about how the revolution happened and why it happened. Of course it was exaggerated in many ways and painted the American government's influence in keeping the shah in power as a very important role(which it was). My dad was actually a very active member of the secular National Front, which wanted to keep shah but empower the role of an elected Prime Minister and the use of a Parliamentary system much like the U.K. rather than switch the government into a theocracy (choice between Islamist and communist at the time). He told me about all the issues he faced being from a family that had Jews and Zoroastrians who don't live in one of the big cities. How they had so many issues for education and how they lacked basic healthcare at times. I've seen pictures and listen to stories of how the CIA trained Savak tortured people including my father and uncles. They also told me about how the war against Iraq which was another American funded plot, caused every one to forget about their political affiliation and fall in line to fight for our survival against Saddam who was using chemical weapons to poison us. Iran would have been a much more modernized and liberated country if the war never happened and the people had the time to debate every change that was being made. 6. Stoning is disgusting and everyone I have known in my life believes it is the kind of "punishment" that is in itself a crime. Capital punishment is another story. While I think mass capital punishment like it happens in Saudi-China and unfortunately in Iran is unacceptable, I do think there is a place for Capital punishment in the justice system. When someone rapes multiple people, when someone murders multiple people, when someone sells hard drugs to anyone bellow the age of 18, when someone throws acid at another persons face forever crippling that person; I do think in those cases after the correct process, capital punishment could be considered depending on what a neutral and unbiased jury decides. Sending people to "2 life sentences" makes no sense to me. Prison for life makes little sense if the person has no chance of getting back into society. This of course must be debated and surely it will be debated. I hope this was useful. Sorry again for the long post :D. I apologize for any typos but I can't go over it to check cause I'm late for clubbing. Have a good day and feel free to ask away. :-D

  • Craig Feeney

    **comment content**: Well here is the article if you haven't read it already. I wasn't inclined to so, but I saw your username and would do what I can to assist the elder and the Howard Foundation. I have been trying to write this for a while, but the morphine and lack of juicy cheeseburgers (what has it been now, five weeks without real food?) have drained my energy and interfered with whatever prose prowess remains. Additionally, the intermittent micronaps that keep whisking me away midsentence are clearly not propelling my work forward as quickly as I would like. But they are, admittedly, a bit of trippy fun. Still, I have to stick with it, because I’m facing a deadline, in this case, a pressing one. I need to say this (and say it right) while I have a) your attention, and b) a pulse. I have been married to the most extraordinary man for 26 years. I was planning on at least another 26 together. Want to hear a sick joke? A husband and wife walk into the emergency room in the late evening on Sept. 5, 2015. A few hours and tests later, the doctor clarifies that the unusual pain the wife is feeling on her right side isn’t the no-biggie appendicitis they suspected but rather ovarian cancer. Continue reading the main story Advertisement Continue reading the main story As the couple head home in the early morning of Sept. 6, somehow through the foggy shock of it all, they make the connection that today, the day they learned what had been festering, is also the day they would have officially kicked off their empty-nestering. The youngest of their three children had just left for college. So many plans instantly went poof. No trip with my husband and parents to South Africa. No reason, now, to apply for the Harvard Loeb Fellowship. No dream tour of Asia with my mother. No writers’ residencies at those wonderful schools in India, Vancouver, Jakarta. No wonder the word cancer and cancel look so similar. This is when we entered what I came to think of as Plan “Be,” existing only in the present. As for the future, allow me to introduce you to the gentleman of this article, Jason Brian Rosenthal. He is an easy man to fall in love with. I did it in one day. Let me explain: My father’s best friend since summer camp, “Uncle” John, had known Jason and me separately our whole lives, but Jason and I had never met. I went to college out east and took my first job in California. When I moved back home to Chicago, John — who thought Jason and I were perfect for each other — set us up on a blind date. It was 1989. We were only 24. I had precisely zero expectations about this going anywhere. But when he knocked on the door of my little frame house, I thought, “Uh-oh, there is something highly likable about this person.” By the end of dinner, I knew I wanted to marry him. Jason? He knew a year later. I have never been on Tinder, Bumble or eHarmony, but I’m going to create a general profile for Jason right here, based on my experience of coexisting in the same house with him for, like, 9,490 days. First, the basics: He is 5-foot-10, 160 pounds, with salt-and-pepper hair and hazel eyes. The following list of attributes is in no particular order because everything feels important to me in some way. He is a sharp dresser. Our young adult sons, Justin and Miles, often borrow his clothes. Those who know him — or just happen to glance down at the gap between his dress slacks and dress shoes — know that he has a flair for fabulous socks. He is fit and enjoys keeping in shape. If our home could speak, it would add that Jason is uncannily handy. On the subject of food — man, can he cook. After a long day, there is no sweeter joy than seeing him walk in the door, plop a grocery bag down on the counter, and woo me with olives and some yummy cheese he has procured before he gets to work on the evening’s meal. Jason loves listening to live music; it’s our favorite thing to do together. I should also add that our 19-year-old daughter, Paris, would rather go to a concert with him than anyone else. When I was working on my first memoir, I kept circling sections my editor wanted me to expand upon. She would say, “I’d like to see more of this character.” Of course, I would agree — he was indeed a captivating character. But it was funny because she could have just said: “Jason. Let’s add more about Jason.” He is an absolutely wonderful father. Ask anyone. See that guy on the corner? Go ahead and ask him; he’ll tell you. Jason is compassionate — and he can flip a pancake. Jason paints. I love his artwork. I would call him an artist except for the law degree that keeps him at his downtown office most days from 9 to 5. Or at least it did before I got sick. If you’re looking for a dreamy, let’s-go-for-it travel companion, Jason is your man. He also has an affinity for tiny things: taster spoons, little jars, a mini-sculpture of a couple sitting on a bench, which he presented to me as a reminder of how our family began. Here is the kind of man Jason is: He showed up at our first pregnancy ultrasound with flowers. This is a man who, because he is always up early, surprises me every Sunday morning by making some kind of oddball smiley face out of items near the coffeepot: a spoon, a mug, a banana. This is a man who emerges from the minimart or gas station and says, “Give me your palm.” And, voilà, a colorful gumball appears. (He knows I love all the flavors but white.) My guess is you know enough about him now. So let’s swipe right. Wait. Did I mention that he is incredibly handsome? I’m going to miss looking at that face of his. If he sounds like a prince and our relationship seems like a fairy tale, it’s not too far off, except for all of the regular stuff that comes from two and a half decades of playing house together. And the part about me getting cancer. Blech. In my most recent memoir (written entirely before my diagnosis), I invited readers to send in suggestions for matching tattoos, the idea being that author and reader would be bonded by ink. I was totally serious about this and encouraged submitters to be serious as well. Hundreds poured in. A few weeks after publication in August, I heard from a 62-year-old librarian in Milwaukee named Paulette. She suggested the word “more.” This was based on an essay in the book where I mention that “more” was my first spoken word (true). And now it may very well be my last (time shall tell). In September, Paulette drove down to meet me at a Chicago tattoo parlor. She got hers (her very first) on her left wrist. I got mine on the underside of my left forearm, in my daughter’s handwriting. This was my second tattoo; the first is a small, lowercase “j” that has been on my ankle for 25 years. You can probably guess what it stands for. Jason has one too, but with more letters: “AKR.” I want more time with Jason. I want more time with my children. I want more time sipping martinis at the Green Mill Jazz Club on Thursday nights. But that is not going to happen. I probably have only a few days left being a person on this planet. So why I am doing this? I am wrapping this up on Valentine’s Day, and the most genuine, non-vase-oriented gift I can hope for is that the right person reads this, finds Jason, and another love story begins. I’ll leave this intentional empty space below as a way of giving you two the fresh start you deserve. **subreddit**: books **submission title**: Amy Krause Rosenthal's article "You May Want to Marry My Husband" just broke my heart **redditor**: DetN8 **comment permalink**: https://www.reddit.com/r/books/comments/5xde4o/amy_krause_rosenthals_article_you_may_want_to/dehvn8i

  • Evalyn Pfeffer

    >Just because a hero does heroic acts, doesn't make him less of a dick. I am specifically talking about Barry. He treats his friends like shit and is hypocritical every time something threatens him in any way. I mean, he just doesn't do that. What kind of examples are we talking about? Should I list when he saved them, or when he's been a good friend, or gotten his ass kicked to help them out and he never gives them shit about it? >Also loss does define heroism. The best heroes are able to use their losses to help motivate them to do better next time. Oliver used his parent's death to motivate himself to be better. In the pilot, Barry specifically stated that he wants to be a hero since he wants to protect people from receiving the fate that him and his family got. Loss can define heroic characters, sure. But it doesn't define heroism. Being heroic does. Oliver actually screwed around being a bit of a maniac for 5 years after his dad died; we still don't know the catalyst for why he finally gets it going. >One of my biggest gripes of this season is that we haven't had Barry saving people outside of the core group. Where is Barry saving people from a fire? Where is Barry helping people complete normal tasks? Well they can't do that stuff every episode. But he spent the first half of the season trying to solve a series of murders and alternately fighting and rescuing Alchemy's creations. Most of these shows have heroes rescuing the core group; at least Flash makes an effort to show Barry doing actual heroism. >Barry as a character is ruled by his emotion. He has the most power in this universe and can easily take away everything people have built. And yet he dedicated his life to helping others and practices reason and forgiveness to his enemies. >In committing flashpoint, Barry revealed that he is a selfish person who truly does not care about other people. It doesn't matter that his father had just died. He chose emotion over reason and changed the course of history forever. For all we know, thousands could have died, families could have been ripped apart, and suffering could ensue all due to Barry's decision. That makes him a pretty big villain in my books. Sure it was the wrong thing to do. But he was trying to save his family and he suffered from the fallout. He isn't happy he did it and regrets it. It's a story; of course the hero will do the wrong thing sometimes. >To correct my previous statement, Barry doesn't know why he is fighting. What are his goals as the flash? It's not like Legends or Arrow where the motivation is clearly there. I don't think that the motivation has been clearly said (recently). Helping people. Because he's a good guy. He doesn't need a continuing motivation to do the right thing. Oliver and the Legends are pretty much forced into it. >And while the argument can be made that Oliver and other heroes have made emotional choices over reasonable ones, there has always been someone to call him/her out on it. Barry committed flashpoint and while he was berated for it, the action was already completed. Nobody stopped him. I don't understand this. The same can be said for every hero in the universe. Oliver freed Anarky. Laurel gave him shit but it was already done. Felicity ruined Susan's life. Oliver gave her shit but it's was already done. Cisco revealed Flash's ID to a psycho. Barry *didnt* give him shit but it was already done. Oliver's whole plan in season 3 was a disaster that almost got his friends - and one of their children - killed. Shit given, but forgiven. It's weird to single out Barry, especially when, unlike the other heroes, he's still actually suffering from it and expressed legitimate, extended guilt. >Other people have to pay the price. Flashpoint changed the course of history for millions of people in the past, present, and the future. But he did suffer. His 'brother' nearly died. He had to help his worst enemy kill his mother. Killer Frost, Cisco hating him? >Jay sacrificed himself, To save Wally; Barry was not involved in what happened to Wally >Wally sacrificed himself, No he was tricked and captured by Savitar, which was not Barry's fault >and technically all of the character deaths on LoT are due to him since the entire season 2 plot would have never happened if he hadn't gone back in time. That's not true at all. He followed Thawne back to stop him from killing him as a child, then to stop him killing his mother. Thawne's plot is because he was erased from the timeline by Eddie; it was his decision to travel through time at all. >I'd disagree that Oliver is forced to do anything. Oliver has one goal and drive; to save the city. Like any human, he's not perfect. Those character flaws have been exposed and dealt with. Season 2 opens with Felicity and Diggle having to convince him to be a hero again. Season 4 opens with his ex-girlfriend and sister begging him to stop terrorists who have literally conquered the city and he only goes because Felicity makes him. >Barry's haven't been. He gets shit all the time - this weeks episode was all about giving him shit >Where has he let psychopaths roam free? Off the top of my head, Anarky and Malcolm >Barry's hands are not clean as well. Does nobody remember how Barry killed Sandman? You mean Sand Demon? He kills when he has to; Atom Smasher as well, Zoom got a fate worse than death etc. Since when were these guys innocent? >Regarding the reverse flash, what eobard didn't realize is that in by creating the flash, he inadvertently set up an opponent who can stop his wrong doings. His actions of mass murder can be stopped in the future now that he himself has taught the flash and has accelerated his development. Eobard was originally supposed to kill the one doctor from the previous flash series. But Barry stopped him. Eobard is unraveling his own crimes by letting the flash he created undo them for him. I think you're misremembering the first season. Thawne only accelerated the Flash's development. He was already enemies with the Flash in the future. He was stranded in the past because he was trying to kill him as a child. He only helped the Flash to get him to be able to time travel faster so he could go home. He recounts his origin during the Flashpoint episode too - he was obsessed with the Flash and went nuts. And I mean even if it did play out that way, accidentally creating someone who stops you from committing mass murder doesn't make you a hero. And if Barry is the worst villain in the DCW, how is Eobard the greatest hero because he created him? >Looking through a direction lens, big action doesn't always mean great action. If I wanted to see two monkey's fight, I would go see Dawn of the Planet of the Apes. Reliance on the CGI model makes the scenes really stand out as poorly made Yeah the CGI can't always take the strain. But I've never seen a TV pull off what they do as well as they do, and it looks great especially considering the budget. And not for nothing, the Flash has been fighting sentient gorillas for 80 years. If you don't like it, there's not much to be done about it. >I don't think we're on the wrong sub since we are talking about both of the shows in a comparison format. Sure but this seems like a pretty extensive discussion focusing on one show vs comparing two. I'm down to keep it going, just thought it might not be appropriate.

  • Marge Brekke

    Evenin’, stranger. You here for the harvest festival? Best get yourself a cup of mead from Rosie o’er by the bar. It’s the best this side of the Dragon’s Spine Mountains. S’alright. I’ll wait. The young ‘uns haven’t come in from the duelling fields yet, and they love to hear me tell of the Whistling Gunslinger. You back? Told you that mead was good, didn’t I? And look, here come the children. Gather round, young ‘uns, gather round. Kendel, move o’er. Let Peter sit down. Everyone sorted. Can everybody hear me? Most of you have heard me tell this a’fore. It’s a true story and, like the best of ‘em, starts with a murder and a death. Many moons ago, back when I was no older than little Steven there, this tavern was run by Rosie’s grandmother. Glory kept things running smoothly: she prided herself for having good ale and clean rooms. No whoring, no brawling, the Skittering Weasel was the place to be. On this particular evening, there was a visiting bard. He sat by this very fire, right where I am now, and played his harmonica like nobody I ever saw before or since. His voice filled the air, like the brightest bird song. Even in autumn’s encroaching bitterness, he conjured summer back to life with nothing more than his songs and his music. In the corner, o’er there where Harris’ sitting now, was one of the King’s men. Sir Martin of Grassford. Martin the Handsome, they called him. And no wonder. He was an angel in human form. His smile lit the room like a torch and with nothing more’n a glance and a wink, he could set a maiden’s knees a-tremblin’. We loved Martin. He was the only knight who ever stopped in town and joined in with us. Like he was born in a stable and not in a castle. Like he didn’t carry castle-forged steel on his hip and didn’t have a suit of armour in his room. He’d been unbeaten in the duelling fields that day. Everyone who’d stood against him, including my own Paw, who was no slouch with a blade for a farmhand. And so Glory let Sir Martin drink and didn’t charge him a single crown for it. But as the night wore on and the fire died down, and the men got drunker, Martin didn’t like what the bard was singing. “Here! Stop singing that shit! Sing ‘My Love of Glassford’s son’.” Now, maybe the bard ignored Sir Martin. Or maybe he didn’t hear the good knight. Either way, he kept singing. “SHUT THE FUCK UP!” Martin bellowed. The bard’s harmonica squawked. He lurched to his feet and levelled an unsteady finger at the bard. “You know who I am, you little shit?” Silence fell, save for the crackling of the dying fire. “Yessir,” the bard muttered, face downcast. Sir Martin shoved Glory aside as he advanced on the poor singer. “Then, if you know who I am, you’ll sing whatever the fuck I tell you to sing. And I’m telling you to sing ‘My Love of Grassford’s son’.” The reek of the knight’s breath was enough to make the bard stagger. “Yessir,” he mumbled. Then, taking a deep breath, he sang Sir Martin’s request. It was divine. And when he was finished, we clapped, we whistled, we stamped our feet. Sir Martin, however, scowled at the bard, all offended like. I didn’t know then and I don’t know now what the knight was thinking, but he wasn’t happy. Drunk he may have been, but a knight of the realm he was. His dagger flashed, the fire turning the blade to solid flame. He slit the bard’s throat, dousing those closest in warm red. My Paw put himself between me and the knight, as if he could withstand Martin’s wrath if he decided I was his next target. Glory was the first to scream. Martin rounded on her. “You, shut up. Deal with this,” he said, kicking the gargling bard, “and get your backside into my room. The rest of you, go home. Party’s done.” Nobody moved. Nobody except the stranger by the bar. I don’t know how long he’d been sitting there, or even when he’d come into the tavern. But there he was, watching everything from beneath the brim of his strange leather hat. The stranger whistled, a note so piercing I had to cover my ears. His hand dropped to the hunk of metal hanging on his thigh. He held the knight’s gaze like Martin was just another man. “You’re drunk, partner,” the stranger drawled. “Best you go on up to your room and sleep it off ‘fore there’s any more blood.” Martin’s knuckles whitened on the hilt of his dagger. “Who are you to threaten me? Do you know who I am?” The stranger shrugged. “Makes no never mind who you are. You do as I say, or there’s gonna be a reckoning.” It was about then that my mind caught up with what was happening. “Paw,” I hissed, tugging my father’s sleeve. “It’s him, Paw. It’s the Whistling Gunslinger.” My Paw hushed me, but I could see him looking at the infamous weapon the Gunslinger wore. The stories I’d heard were that he carried some kind of wizard’s short boomstick. Where he pointed, death came. Martin growled, like he was some kind of animal. He took a single step toward the Gunslinger. Quicker than a snake bite, the stranger drew that shining iron of his. He didn’t take his eyes off Martin, but the boomstick spoke and the knight’s dagger was reduced to shards. “Witchcraft!” Martin howled. The Gunslinger shook his head. “Sleep it off, friend,” he said. “You ain’t got a want to end like this.” Was this what the Whistling Gunslinger had told the last Fire Dragon in the western Mountains? Or had he stood in the Cold King’s throne room and held that undead bastard’s gaze the way he stared at Martin the Handsome? Martin shrank back from the stranger. We gasped, all of us. A knight of the realm couldn’t stand before this man. He turned tail and fled to his room. We watched him go, astounded. The Whistling Gunslinger’s gaze followed Martin, but the man never moved. Not until Martin was out of sight. Only then, he slid from his stool, flipped Glory a coin, and headed for the door. “This ain’t over,” he told us as he went. “I’ll be outside, waiting.” We parted to let him go, none of us knowing what to do or say. The tavern door creaked shut behind him. Heavy thumping sounded from upstairs. Martin the Handsome stormed down, long sword in hand and breastplate bouncing on his chest. “Out of the fucking way!” he screamed at us. His flat-footed kick sent the door tumbling into the street. “Where are you, you fucking wizard spawn?” We dived to the windows, wiping the condensation away. None of us wanted to be outside, but we all wanted to see what was about to happen. The Whistling Gunslinger was halfway out of town. He turned on his heel, flicked the brim of his hat and watched Martin lumber toward him. “You looking for a duel, friend?” he called. “Duel? You’re not a knight! You’re just a dog that needs some fucking manners!” Martin broke into an awkward run, sword raised. The Gunslinger waited. Martin closed the distance. Still the Gunslinger didn’t move. Martin’s blade swung. The Gunslinger’s hand moved like lightning. The big iron barked once, twice, three times. A trio of holes appeared in Martin’s armour. The knight spun away, blood arcing from those awful holes. He landed face down in the mud with a wet thud and didn’t move. The Gunslinger looked at the tavern – looked right at me – and tipped his hat. Then he wandered into the night, whistling. The wind carried his brilliant tune back to us: My Love of Glassford’s son.

  • Alta Doyle

    > First of all good answers, though you should be skeptical when your interlocutor says that because it usually means they have a good answer. And you should be wary as well... > So if I understand this correctly by your explanation very rarely do people believe in something because of evidence. Then you are not understanding me correctly. > Unless you personally examined the Galapagos evidence all you are doing is taking things on faith that other people used due diligence. And this is where you will see why I suggested you be wary... I won't paste the whole thing, I [will just provide this link](https://www.reddit.com/r/DebateAChristian/comments/5x9bog/can_we_stop_equivocating_the_word_faith/dehe0x3/?context=3) because I think it addresses your statement about "taking things on faith" rather well. A secondary point to this (which I didn't include in that post but is relevant here) is that, at anytime in the process of scientific claims of discoveries, someone can come along with "new" evidence and claim that it proves the discovery is bullshit. Our concept of reality has the nature of self-correcting as new information (evidence) is discovered. That's what happened with Copernicus, for example. We, as humans, have believed in a shitload of nonsensical things... but the scientific method has proven to be an invaluable and essential tool in weeding the a lot of that nonsense out. > But in practice (that is in reality) the only evidence based beliefs (as you define it) as the experiments you have done yourself. You're doing a bit of conflating here. We were talking about the difference between a *claim* (like personal experience) and *evidence* (that which is testable, measurable). I never claimed that you should *only* believe that which you "personally experienced" (that, in fact, would be the antithesis of what I was saying). > most beliefs about science are not evidence based but rather are trust based I certainly see what you're getting at, but I will refer to the link above. > experiments and evidence can not logically say how things actually are or will be tomorrow but merely what the evidence said yesterday. You clearly believe in some form of reality... in what reality is this statement even remotely true? Soap was first created about 4800 years ago. We don't wake up every morning needing to re-invent soap. E equaled M C squared yesterday, it did today and will tomorrow. How do we know this? Because nearly 100 years of experimentation has show it to be true. As I referenced in my link, while I accept these things, it is not because I have actively experienced them (while I use soap regularly, fuck if I know how to make it), but I could learn *how* to; could witness/experience these things; conduct experiments... all are possible if I chose to pursue them. But I don't have to because *other* people have done so. And they used the 'scientific method' so that their "personal experience" could be *proven* by others doing the *same* experiments. > We have evidence that the sun rose in the past but we don't have evidence that the sun will rise tomorrow. Yes, we do know that it will "rise" tomorrow and it is *not* because it happened yesterday or today. It's because really smart people looked up in the sky, did the math and figured out that Earth both spins, and orbits a star. We figured out orbital mechanics and astronomy. We don't need to re-invent the wheel just because we weren't there when it was first developed. > Since I almost have my Masters in Educational Psychology (which is a science) I will just say how my field does it... Let me pause here to say that certain disciplines have standards of "evidence" that don't fit within my description. I don't have a real issue with that. Remember, this is about "faith", "personal experience" and "evidence" in the context of religious belief. I conceded that personal experience is a perfectly reasonable explanation for theistic belief, but maintain that it is in no way "evidence" for a god. > I suppose this is an opportunity for a hard science versus soft science debate but will leave it be for now. Yes, that's another fight for another day. > I will probably never get my Masters and once I left the university have left the research to academics Join the club... I left college before getting a degree for a paying job in my field and have had a successful career. > The problem here is that by the way you have explained it the only thing that accounts for evidence is what you have seen for yourself You're clearly not understanding what I am trying to say. Let me try another analogy to see if it helps: You and a friend are in the woods. You get separated, but after a couple of hours, you find one another again. Your friend tells you that while the two of you were apart he came across an unattended campfire and put it out. He takes you to the location, but you see no evidence of this fire. There no smell of smoke, no chard wood, no apparent disturbance of the area at all. Nothing you can see is at all indicative of there having been an unattended fire. There are really only two probable possibilities (a third would be a hallucination, but let's toss that one out as irrelevant). Your friend is either wrong about the location or lying about the fire. Your friend insists that you're in the right place and there was a fire, despite the lack of evidence. What conclusion do you make? You don't want to believe that your friend is intentionally lying to you, based on your "personal experience" with him as being trustworthy. You would most likely conclude he is wrong, even though he is confident he is not. His "personal experience" does not match objective reality, or the "evidence" (actually the lack of it, or evidence to the contrary) you have witnessed. Had you found a disturbed area, smelled smoke and saw all the dirt kicked on the still smoking wood, this would be *evidence* that his story is true, or at least plausible. > BUT once you have seen something and it is not there right in front of you at the time then it ceases to have evidence for it. I don't know where you have come up with this. As a psych student, you should be familiar with the fact that even small children and animals understand the concept of "object permanence". > You do not have evidence that bears are omnivores unless you are currently watching a bear eat both meat and plants... and really then all you can do is say you have evidence about that bear and for only that time. Not only do I not have to witness it, the experts who have only need to see it exhibited a sufficient number of times for it to be a relevant sample. Even as a "soft scientist" (no disparagement intended in anyway), you know this. And you know (or should by now) it isn't what I am trying to say. > You need to add unprovable assumptions about the universality of knowledge, the static nature of things leanred and probably some account for trusting what other people have studied without actually having studied it yourself. I think I have, but if you find it lacking, take your best shot.

  • Kathlyn Moen

    I'd like to personally invite you to our personal gathering where we talk about the TRUE teachings of our Lord. Look, this is so hard for me to put into words. It's all very simple and all very complex all at the same time. Could just be I suck at communicating or that I just came back to Christ after my daughters birth. I don't want you to think I am here to SHOVE a heaping spoonful of Jesus down ANYONES throat. I know first hand that you don't push people. I grew up in the back woods and after my childhood disasters I went into a dark period. I guess all teens go through the black phase. Black lip stick, combat boots (in 90 degree heat..WHAT WAS I THINKING) black everything. I practiced Wicca for a while. Until a spell to melt a lovers heart (I was using gray magic) went wrong. I melted a man made out of wax over a fire and prayed for him to love me. Well, the little guy broke loose and fell into the fire!! The next day an ex boyfriend's mom (not the one I was doing the spell on) came to my door and said her son was huffing gas in his car and idiot light a cig. He was burned over 60% of his body. To me that was my sign that this religion was not for me. I got saved at 12 (tingles and ahhhhhhhaa moments and everything) but some horrible things happened in my life and I walked away completely lost. I went into a depression. My mom wanted her boyfriend more than her children. So dropped out of school and drank, 420. It as a none stop party ride from 15-18. I barely remember any of it. God put this guy in front of me. I didn't realize it then. I just realized I was homeless and I loved him and I had no where to go. His Christian parents took me in. They had rules, no sleeping in the same bed, ect. We pushed the limits here and there and there were repercustions. Anywho, I'm off on a tangent. God is my best friend. I know how cheesy that sounds. I have been where you are wondering where to go and with people telling me I'm going to burn in hell. That makes me so angry!!! I love my child more than anything. I would die for her. It clicked years into our marriage when we had Mazey. If I love her this much, just imagine how much He loves me. There is nothing your child could ever do to make you stop loving them. It works the same way with God. There is nothing you could ever do to make him stop loving you. The simple part is this: God loved you so much he died for you. You are a sinner (all of us, even mother theresa)! But if you know him you will know what it all means. I am not a big bible person. I have A.D.D. and I find it much easier to listen to something. The bible is very complexe. But once you grow closer in your relationship with God (chatting, praying, gripping, being still, telling him about your worries, ect) it will make more sense. I didn't have a life changing moment. It's more day by day for me. The bible still doesn't make complete sense. Never will. It's living water. It's meaning changes depending on what God wants you to see. If you find the time to read it and you are speaking with God. He will use it to show you some things about your self and your life. God doesn't speak to me through the bible to often. God speaks to me as I am falling asleep (just about out), he also uses me gardening obbsession. One day I was upset about how slow my walk with him is going. I am still very immature. I was in the yard and I saw a tiny leaf sticking up with a bud on it. In my mind he said "look how far you have come, when you started you were just a seed and now look at you". It wasn't autible so some may think its crazy. But the feeling of having that weight lifted off my shoulders when he told me I was coming along and to just be patient. WOW! My relationship with Jesus is like this: We chat. I ask questions and patiently listen. If I get awnsers its in the realm of asleep but not in a deep sleep. He whispers and I hear him. Or a message in chuch (love you Grace church) will really hit home. God is like the wind. I can't see him. I can't hear him with my ears. but I feel him. No one has any right to tell you that you are going to burn. You are no differnt than the rest of us. We are all screw ups and that is why he died. I know it sounds crazy to you and I accept that. I have been there before. But I just wish I could show you somehow. It just takes years of practice. I don't read my bible much. Besides what Jesus wrote that is just good common sense. Most of it is screwed up. I think he meant to show us we have all been screwed up since the beginning. Go look at this book if you think you are screwed up. Some of the people Jesus cherished most were murderes. But once they encountered his they were changed. I am changed. Not as fast as I want to. Do I sin HECK YEAH. Don't ever let anyone make you feel like God loves you any less, because he does love you. (don't be freaked out) He loves you right where you are and he isn't going anywhere. He is waiting for you to check YES or NO. Being a christian isn't a death sentence. I use to think I would have to give up everything I enjoyed. No I realize I enjoy everything (well, maybe not laundry or screaming kids, or my boss) around me so much more. Like I was wearing blinders. I agree with you about people leaning on the bible to much. It's not about the bible or church. It's about your personal relationship with God. You can read about a friend all day long but if you never sit down to speak with your friend what good is that going to do you And this is what amazes me about the bible, the way God transforms the same old story to speak to you. You can read the same thing 4,000 times and not get anything out of it and then BOOM one day it jumps out at you. This is why it's called "the living word". I don't understand why someone can say they know the meaning of a story in the bible. Sure, there are things that are pretty concrete. I don't think "though shall not kill" is ever going to change to "sure, go ahead and shoot that person who pissed you off". But many of the stories of the bible transcend our language and God uses them to fit his message. People get so hung up on things. People being stoned to death, being beaten, murdered, raped. Sure, all these things are horrible! But God didn't do them...PEOPLE DID! The reason some of these stories are so brutal is because we are human and this is what humans do. It is the nature of sin and the world. God said to love others and be good to them but human nature and the flesh says otherwise. That isn't his fault. Sometimes I tell my daughter "hey, don't do that because you are going to get hurt". Does she always listen? NOPE! Should I step in and rescue her from pain every time she doesn't listen. NOPE! If I did, she would never learn. If I didn't let her make mistakes, she would never grow. Fact is God can say "don't do that, it's not good for you" and watch us fall flat on our faces and people don't like that. I personally wouldn't have it any other way. You know what happens the next time I tell my daughter "don't do that again or you are going to get hurt". Know what happens next time (sometimes it takes 10 and sometimes it takes 1000) she starts to TRUST me when I give her direction. It's no different with the Lord. I hope I didn't feak you out. I'm not one of those COME TO CHURCH WITH ME...COME TO CHURCH WITH ME...PPPPPLLLLEEEEAAAASSSSEEE types! My goal is to chat with him until the day I die because he makes me smile. To help as many people as I can in anyway that I can. To try to better myself in ways we all should. To love as much as I can...to try not to get pissed off to much :) To die at peace and sore on the wings of eagles.

  • Edmond Bartoletti

    I know, but Lügenpresse has the connotation that its Nazi ect. Then the crazy left people say Trump is a nazi for example.. not true... There is one thing to be against media hit jobs, which trump has faced a considerable amount from as the media makes a lot of money from them. There is another thing to attack burn/destroy their publications because they "lied"... So thats why "Fake news" as opposed to Lügenpresse is a lot more appropriate. Lügenpresse got turned into a nazi slogan that hitler used in 1936 to dum up support and destroy all the media entirely. Trump just wants the fake news to stop. When the media says, the migrants in Sweden are integrating well... then 60 minutes Australia get attacked 60 seconds after going into a "migrant no go zone" https://youtu.be/xao4tPpoEhE?t=9m39s . where police do not enter to avoid being seen as causing social unrest. [The rape and murder of Maria Ladenburger, who helped the refugees, whose father supported allowing the refugees into Germany, his daughter was raped and killed by one.... ](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Maria_Ladenburger) Is that acceptable? When the media says what problems i don't see any??? when the Swedish government has begun censoring the rapes committed because they are causing "social unrest"... news flash Sweden... the right wing party in Sweden is 2% away from leading in the polls... AFD is gaining momentum and polls at 20%... FN is polling at +36%. Why... because the politicians lied to the people and the media is just writing hit jobs on politicians. When there are **serious** issues with rape and crime, the media just says "what have you been smoking lol". Thats fake news. When they say "pewdiepie" is a nazi, when he is seeing what absolute crazy shit people will do for a few $$, and apologised immediately after it. Then when the WSJ write a hit piece, they offer him a platform to speak.... he has 52 million subscribers and one of the WSJ journalists has a number of anti Semitic tweets. Thats 100% fake news. When the news organisations said trump created a muslim ban ... thats 100% fake news. They did not address it as stated. It was a ban of people coming from a country of concern. We have those laws in Australia. If you come from Iraq/syria you are denied entry and sent back to where you last left from because it cannot be guaranteed that you are not lying. When trump does it... causes world hysteria... and it was Obama's white house that outlined what the countries of concern are, and the law passed in 2010 allows the president though executive action to block anyone originating out of a country of concern.... But no the media called it a muslim ban... because thats how you make money, you take it way out of context write a lot of hit pieces generate traffic and then hide behind free speech as happened now to pewdiepie... As pewdiepie said, the media dont give a shit about any of the good things you do, they just care about the negative thing and also about how much money he makes... thats it.. they never reported on the 1m he gave to charity, all the good things. The huge support he gave to the people who were on fiver and got kicked off for his stunt ect. The same with Trump. He was called racist, but was one of a few wall street executives to be awarded along side rosa parks and mohamed ali. He supplied space, funds and time to the rainbow punch coalition, where in a speech at Trump Tower Jessie Jackson called Trump a real friend to the black community... The rainbow punch coalition aimed to help black people learn about corporate America to give them the experience and reoccurs necessary to learn. Trump gave a lot of money and space to them. How does Jessie Jackson respond to the calls that Trump is a racist at the weeks around the RNC, DNC and the US... he didn't he shut up... why because he does not want to be called a racist and shunned from his own community. Thats fake news. Fake news to get clicks, to make money to generate an interest in a topic which does not exist. I will also provide you with another example of fake news, maybe you have heard of it. 60 mins Australia did another piece least year in Lebanon where they employed professional kidnappers, to kidnap a child and bring them back to Australia, as the Australian courts ruled one way, the Lebanese courts ruled another. The courts in Lebanon said the children stay with the father in Lebanon. Australian courts said the children stay with the mother. The children were already in Lebanon with the father way before litigation stated. So 60 mins employed these kidnappers. They temporary abdicated the children... but there was sing operation by the police as i believe they were tipped off it would happen. The 60 mins camera crew was jailed, the kidnappers were also jailed. 60 mins paid the kidnappers on behalf of the mother to film the story and about the work of the kidnappers. They thought it was Ok for them to pay kidnappers and film them abducting kids out of the country and taking them back to Australia. They pushed the mother to Authorise it. They wanted to write the story so much they paid her tens of thousands. They failed and got jailed... thats fake news.... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/60_Minutes_(Australian_TV_program) > In April 2016, Tara Brown and eight other people (including three other staff members of the Nine Network, David Ballment, Stephen Rice, and Ben Williamson)[5] were arrested on allegations of child abduction in Beirut. According to Lebanese authorities, 60 minutes allegedly paid $115,000 directly to the Child Abduction Recovery International Agency, despite claims that the exchange was made by the mother of the children. The abduction agency used has also been widely discredited, with fake recovery stories being posted on Facebook and their operators having been arrested all over the world. The recovery involved the team waiting in a parked car on the street and then snatching the children from their Grandmother and nanny before driving away. [Media WatchLebanese judicial sources told The Guardian that the group were to be charged with "armed abduction, purveying threats and physical harm" - crimes which carry sentences of twenty years imprisonment with hard labour.[6] The group were released from custody only after the Nine Network paid a substantial money settlement to the father of the children the subject of the abduction attempt. This operation by 60 minutes sparked wide debate about the ethics of the journalism being conducted and was a great humiliation to the program.

  • Charlotte Pacocha

    Well here is the article if you haven't read it already. I wasn't inclined to so, but I saw your username and would do what I can to assist the elder and the Howard Foundation. I have been trying to write this for a while, but the morphine and lack of juicy cheeseburgers (what has it been now, five weeks without real food?) have drained my energy and interfered with whatever prose prowess remains. Additionally, the intermittent micronaps that keep whisking me away midsentence are clearly not propelling my work forward as quickly as I would like. But they are, admittedly, a bit of trippy fun. Still, I have to stick with it, because I’m facing a deadline, in this case, a pressing one. I need to say this (and say it right) while I have a) your attention, and b) a pulse. I have been married to the most extraordinary man for 26 years. I was planning on at least another 26 together. Want to hear a sick joke? A husband and wife walk into the emergency room in the late evening on Sept. 5, 2015. A few hours and tests later, the doctor clarifies that the unusual pain the wife is feeling on her right side isn’t the no-biggie appendicitis they suspected but rather ovarian cancer. Continue reading the main story Advertisement Continue reading the main story As the couple head home in the early morning of Sept. 6, somehow through the foggy shock of it all, they make the connection that today, the day they learned what had been festering, is also the day they would have officially kicked off their empty-nestering. The youngest of their three children had just left for college. So many plans instantly went poof. No trip with my husband and parents to South Africa. No reason, now, to apply for the Harvard Loeb Fellowship. No dream tour of Asia with my mother. No writers’ residencies at those wonderful schools in India, Vancouver, Jakarta. No wonder the word cancer and cancel look so similar. This is when we entered what I came to think of as Plan “Be,” existing only in the present. As for the future, allow me to introduce you to the gentleman of this article, Jason Brian Rosenthal. He is an easy man to fall in love with. I did it in one day. Let me explain: My father’s best friend since summer camp, “Uncle” John, had known Jason and me separately our whole lives, but Jason and I had never met. I went to college out east and took my first job in California. When I moved back home to Chicago, John — who thought Jason and I were perfect for each other — set us up on a blind date. It was 1989. We were only 24. I had precisely zero expectations about this going anywhere. But when he knocked on the door of my little frame house, I thought, “Uh-oh, there is something highly likable about this person.” By the end of dinner, I knew I wanted to marry him. Jason? He knew a year later. I have never been on Tinder, Bumble or eHarmony, but I’m going to create a general profile for Jason right here, based on my experience of coexisting in the same house with him for, like, 9,490 days. First, the basics: He is 5-foot-10, 160 pounds, with salt-and-pepper hair and hazel eyes. The following list of attributes is in no particular order because everything feels important to me in some way. He is a sharp dresser. Our young adult sons, Justin and Miles, often borrow his clothes. Those who know him — or just happen to glance down at the gap between his dress slacks and dress shoes — know that he has a flair for fabulous socks. He is fit and enjoys keeping in shape. If our home could speak, it would add that Jason is uncannily handy. On the subject of food — man, can he cook. After a long day, there is no sweeter joy than seeing him walk in the door, plop a grocery bag down on the counter, and woo me with olives and some yummy cheese he has procured before he gets to work on the evening’s meal. Jason loves listening to live music; it’s our favorite thing to do together. I should also add that our 19-year-old daughter, Paris, would rather go to a concert with him than anyone else. When I was working on my first memoir, I kept circling sections my editor wanted me to expand upon. She would say, “I’d like to see more of this character.” Of course, I would agree — he was indeed a captivating character. But it was funny because she could have just said: “Jason. Let’s add more about Jason.” He is an absolutely wonderful father. Ask anyone. See that guy on the corner? Go ahead and ask him; he’ll tell you. Jason is compassionate — and he can flip a pancake. Jason paints. I love his artwork. I would call him an artist except for the law degree that keeps him at his downtown office most days from 9 to 5. Or at least it did before I got sick. If you’re looking for a dreamy, let’s-go-for-it travel companion, Jason is your man. He also has an affinity for tiny things: taster spoons, little jars, a mini-sculpture of a couple sitting on a bench, which he presented to me as a reminder of how our family began. Here is the kind of man Jason is: He showed up at our first pregnancy ultrasound with flowers. This is a man who, because he is always up early, surprises me every Sunday morning by making some kind of oddball smiley face out of items near the coffeepot: a spoon, a mug, a banana. This is a man who emerges from the minimart or gas station and says, “Give me your palm.” And, voilà, a colorful gumball appears. (He knows I love all the flavors but white.) My guess is you know enough about him now. So let’s swipe right. Wait. Did I mention that he is incredibly handsome? I’m going to miss looking at that face of his. If he sounds like a prince and our relationship seems like a fairy tale, it’s not too far off, except for all of the regular stuff that comes from two and a half decades of playing house together. And the part about me getting cancer. Blech. In my most recent memoir (written entirely before my diagnosis), I invited readers to send in suggestions for matching tattoos, the idea being that author and reader would be bonded by ink. I was totally serious about this and encouraged submitters to be serious as well. Hundreds poured in. A few weeks after publication in August, I heard from a 62-year-old librarian in Milwaukee named Paulette. She suggested the word “more.” This was based on an essay in the book where I mention that “more” was my first spoken word (true). And now it may very well be my last (time shall tell). In September, Paulette drove down to meet me at a Chicago tattoo parlor. She got hers (her very first) on her left wrist. I got mine on the underside of my left forearm, in my daughter’s handwriting. This was my second tattoo; the first is a small, lowercase “j” that has been on my ankle for 25 years. You can probably guess what it stands for. Jason has one too, but with more letters: “AKR.” I want more time with Jason. I want more time with my children. I want more time sipping martinis at the Green Mill Jazz Club on Thursday nights. But that is not going to happen. I probably have only a few days left being a person on this planet. So why I am doing this? I am wrapping this up on Valentine’s Day, and the most genuine, non-vase-oriented gift I can hope for is that the right person reads this, finds Jason, and another love story begins. I’ll leave this intentional empty space below as a way of giving you two the fresh start you deserve.

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  • Coty Lebsack

    I've posted this a few times, but it fits here. My ex girlfriend dumped me a year ago (with a text message, a week before Christmas). I was with my ex girlfriend for almost 3 years when it ended. We talked and planned about; marriage, kids and spending the rest of our lives together. Hell, I was a week away from asking her to marry me when she left. I tried so hard to save my relationship. I became extremely dependent on her. She was my best friend. I trusted her completely and I never questioned her. She was everything to me. The reason I got up in the morning. The reason I went to the gym. She gave me a purpose. No matter what happened to me, I knew I was going to be OK because I had her by my side. I cannot put into words how much I loved her or how important she was to me. I put her needs in front of everything else in my life. I would've moved heaven and earth for her. When she left, I didn't know who I was anymore. I didn't see it at the time, but she treated me terribly. She was horribly emotionally and mentally abusive to me. The entire relationship was on her terms and I was basically her boyfriend when it was convenient for her or she needed something (ie: emotional support, sometimes I felt like her therapist). After she left me (she said that I was the one abusing her. I believed her and went to get help. I didn't want to be a man who abuses the ones he loves. I quickly found out that I was the one being abused) I found out that she had been cheating on me for months. On top of that, I found out that pretty much everything that she ever told me was a lie and that I never really knew the real her. It's a strange and awful feeling to realize that the person you fell in love with, the person you truly believed was your soul mate was never real. I know I'm much better off without her. When I told her that I'd never talk to her or see her again, she said "What the hell? But you're my best friend! I need you in my life! You promised that no matter what happened, you'd always be there for me". When I told her that it would just be to painful for me, that I couldn't go from being a week away from asking her to marry me to being just friends, she told me that wasn't normal and just another reason why she had to leave me. I know now that she has an extremely bad personality disorder (Borderline Personality Disorder/Sociopath). But...I still miss her. I still want her. There's still a part of me that believes we were meant to be together. I know that was never real, that it was part of her personality disorder but it's incredibly difficult to separate that. It hurts so much to tell my story and have people say "wow, I never would've left you" or "she'll never find a guy who will treat her as well as you did". Or to have your therapist say "you are absolutely marriage material and you're going to make some woman extremely happy one day". It hurts because it just leads me to think "Why? Why, if I'm so great. If I treated her so well...why did she leave me? Why did she hurt me so much?" It's been a year now. I'm still single and I just turned 30. I'm terrified I'm going to be alone for the rest of my life alone. I'm terrified I'm never going to find someone I'll love as much or want to spend the rest of my life as much as I did with her. I'm slowly (with the help of therapy) rebuilding myself. I'm slowly starting to feel like my old self again. But, when someone is involved with ever aspect of your life, a lot reminds you of them. I still find myself going "Huh, I wish I could tell/show her this or that" or "I bet she'd find this funny". I've learned that emotional and mental abuse...is odd. Odd is the best way I can describe it. It's like being trapped in our my head. I know that xyz is not true and I have overwhelming proof that xyz is not true. But there's this voice, her voice telling me that we're wrong. That xyz is true and that I'm a horrible person and a monster. My ex convinced me I was a monster. She convinced me that I was not only solely responsible for the death of our relationship, I was responsible for everything wrong in her life. Her depression, anxiety, social troubles (she had a very hard time making and keeping friends. At the time I could never understand why. I figured she was misunderstood), school trouble...everything was because of me. She said that I had sexually assaulted her. She said I was mentally and emotionally abusing her. She said I was controlling her by keeping her from seeing her friends and family (nothing could be further from the truth. I hardly saw her. I didn't want her to be forced to see me, if that makes sense. I believed her when she said she really wanted to see me but she was busy. She was always busy. I felt forgotten. When I told her this she said "I don't forget about you. I'm just busy and I had my entire life to see you!" The last year we were together, we only saw each other 30 times. The rest was text and phone calls). She refused to even see me in person because "she was afraid of what her reaction would be if I tried to comfort her and that she no longer felt safe around me". She threatened to beat the shit out of me and told me that it would be my fault because I had the audacity to ask one of her few friends if he was dating her (the same guy she was cheating on me with). She said that I had left her no other choice but to leave me and told me "I hope you learn from this because this is all your fault. You took something that was once so beautiful and turned it into something ugly and painful". And I believed every single word she said. I was beyond crushed. I almost killed myself that night. I couldn't even stomach my own reflection in the mirror. For months I cried every single day. Then she tormented me by making sure it got back to me how happy she was or how she has a new boyfriend. My depression got so bad I had my local Crisis and Suicide Prevention line calling me every day to check on me. The road has been very long but I have gotten better over the past year. I haven't cried for a few months now and that's a good thing. She no longer consumes my ever thought, but she's still very present in my mind because of the hole she left both in me and my life. People tell me that I'll find someone far better than her but if I'm being honest, I don't know if I believe that. After all, I really thought she was my soul mate. How do you find that again? The scary part is, being completely honest...if she were to try to come back, I'm not sure if I'd say "No". I didn't just loose a girlfriend. I lost my best friend. I lost my future wife. I lost the mother of my children. I lost my partner who I couldn't wait to share the rest of my life with. Above all else I lost my future, something I am slowly starting to get back, even if I have a hard time believing that. 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  • Gunner Schinner

    Holy fuck, if you honestly think Stannis had Renly killed you shouldn't even be allowed to post on the sub. Stannis had no idea that Renly was going to die from a shadowbaby. He has said this in private, to his most trusted friend *multiple* times. His story matches up with everything written in those chapters. Even more so, Stannis was completely justified in killing Renly(which he didn't do). Usurping or not, Renly says he is going to have Stannis killed by Loras, its that simple. >Stannis feels he is owed the throne and people's loyalty. He's constantly frustrated to no end by the houses that do not support him because he considers himself the rightful heir. Dany does the same thing. She considers Robert the usurper and herself the rightful leader. She has a tendency to assume people will support her once she gets to Westeros. Because of that she's called entitled, arrogant, narcissistic, etc. Both of them have legitimate reasons to see themselves as the heirs. Stannis is completely unforgiving of people who will not kneel to him. He'll kill people over it. Dany demands some ships and it makes her on her way to being the mad queen. It doesn't make sense to me. Right the key difference here being Stannis *is* owed the throne. We know this because we're reading a series. Dany doesn't have a claim that is legitimate except through *2* ways. Death of all Baratheons it would theoretically pass to her, though she was disinherited, and conquest. The Targeryns were overthrown. So when Stannis says it, its true. With Dany, its not. Yet at least. >Kinslaying. Stannis killing Renly feels like a hushed topic here. I have asked people about their reasons for loving Stannis and the top ones are typically that he's just and he respects the law. Except he murdered his little brother. If he respected the law he would turn himself in to be put to death. If he was just he never would have done that, at least not with magic that cannot be fought back against. I can't think of a parallel situation, but if a less liked character like Catelyn killed a family member she would be considered evil. Think about how Sansa is still often hated for telling Cersei about her father's plan to leave. Some people blame her for his death just based on that, yet what Stannis did isn't a big deal. This is moral equivalency. We don't hate Sansa because she betrayed her Father, we hate her(at the time) because she gave the favorite POV in the entire series into the clutches of the Lannisters. Tough to defend her making that decision because she is 13 when Jon is 14 and managing the war for the Dawn at some points. If Stannis had killed Robert B. instead of Renly people would hate him. But he didn't, he killed a guy most people didn't like, a guy who was justified. >Child murder. If Davos had not saved Edric Storm there is no reason to assume Stannis would not have had him sacrificed. So many Stannis fans got up in arms about him killing Shireen on the show, yet he was willing to kill a kid in the books. Jaime tried and failed to kill a child and even the people who like him, such as myself, still consider that unforgivable. Cersei having Robert's babies killed is seen as monstrous. Theon killing the two boys is seen as evil. Dany gets more hate for Drogon killing a child than Stannis does for planning ritual child sacrifice. A lot of it is "no harm no foul". If Bran could still walk, or Theon found two boys who were already dead, etc no one would care. It was war, people do bad things. See, this is a tough one because in universe we know its the right thing to do. Unlike life where its questionable we know Mel burning Edric would have done *something*. What? Who knows. But seeing as she kills Stannis biggest threat, transforms people into others, and can seemingly change weather its a pretty good bet burning Edric would have helped. So in cases of Children actually killed because of Stannis, he is at 0 to Danys 1. The only difference is Stannis was a hard, cold, calculated decision and Danys was because she can't control the three dangerous creatures she brought into the world. Unless she didn't know that the dragons would happen which just makes her walking into a fire lunacy. But tell me again how she isn't fire obsessed. >Thinking himself above the law. Back to killing Renly. If he was as just as people say and unforgiving when it comes to law breaking he would turn himself in or kill himself. But he doesn't and that's because laws don't apply to him in his mind. He's obsessively controlling and laws are how he can control people. I don't think he actually respects it as a concept or he wouldn't let himself get away with murder, kinslaying at that. He also punishes people down to the letter. He is very precise about keeping to laws... until it's no longer convenient for him. If he was so loyal to the law he would have punished Renly's bannermen- killed them for treason. But he doesn't because he needs men. He cares so much about laws and vows, yet he offers Jon legitimacy and basically tells him to desert the Night's Watch because he needs the north. There are multiple things going on here. Firstly, Renlys life was forfeit. He was a self confessed traitor who threw the realm into chaos. If you asked any lord in the Seven Kingdoms beside those sworn to Renly they would say he was a traitor. Family members being killed for treason is a realistic and historically accurate scenario, and it certainly isn't illegal. So the "big point" that Stannis haters cling to isn't a point at all. Renly was a dishonorable rebel who got put down like the dog he was. As for not killing Renlys bannermen he faces a no win scenario. Accept them into the kings peace and he is too lenient as you said, kill them and it would be in the brutality section of this post. 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  • Hershel Reilly

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I feel like so often when someone comes on here to say that they are childfree or a fencesitter and their SO wants children but they are hoping it can work out, the answer is so often “look at all these stories about how much you would regret the decision, it is better to break up with someone than to stay with them and live this life you didn’t plan for yourself”. 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  • Dawson Wiegand

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  • Chance Hills

    Sounds like you looked "interesting" at some point. I think that they expect to fully be able to manipulate anyone, and when someone seems though on this aspect, after some successful tests (of resistance), they may take a longwhile interest. So they may be doing that to learn something from someone who belongs to a type of human biology/mind/mindset they haven't finished studying yet. That is, if you are fair in what you say, actually i'd expect it either from someone fair or by someone completely sold, it'd be funny if i was talking to CIA ahah. But i'm assuming not for this message. Anyway if that's for real there's little help to be found in this world sadly. As for what i think can be true of their general purpose, """they""" (not talking about CIA) consider life a learning/testing experience instead of a living one. So you may be someone that lives very fully but thinks little of the world outside of himself with some interesting traits that makes the experiment worthwhile. In the end their purpose, on this train of thought, for their own learning, may be to just break you in the end. This is all speculation, but i think the best way you got to fight is to troll them in an extreme way. That's the only middle way between boing down and charging a shotgun that i know of. When you see someone that it's part of it, instead of ignoring, talk openly to him like a friend, but with the intent of pushing insecurity at the end. Look his reactions. Get to know them. Push more fear into them than they do into you. And do it with a big, satisfacted smile on your face when not a laugh. If you suspect someone doing this is an MK slave, hold no mercy. Push a conversation, try to go political, then randomly talk about those faggots that gave their children into the hidden mafia, talk about how some families truly are just born losers that can't be helped. Push an unfair bias that should "explore" their subconscious should that be the real case. Find way to out them to you and put a big smile on. It's not like i have no compassion for those guys (when that's the real case), but we should all be ready to shot down the hungry bear when it points towards us. Only keypoint for doing this is to retain a solid plausible deniality that you weren't trying to hurt anyone's feelings later. Communicate your real intentions only with your smile or laugh. A "positive poker face" so to speak, although you must truly retain fun to make it work optimally i think. The example i used isn't really usable as it doesn't entail a social plausible deniability, but i think you get the purpose of the strategy. The way out of an impossible situation is to stop being defending but on the aggressive side. Trolling is a pacific way of aggression that can be used to clash non phisically and it can hurt and break masks just the same. Actually, the CIA is doing that to you atm. It doesn't take long to shot you down and you know it. The reason they don't is because you aren't their enemy, you are their experiment. I'm sorry you are in for the game. To sum it up: Never think about it to defend, find way to have plausible deniality about just being friendly when talking to this people, and when you know you have to do something about it, troll them to death. You must retain a positive idea of life for this to "work out" (i can't know exactly when do they consider the experiment over or if your prize is freedom or death, though.) Also, if you are open minded, try read this. http://www.illuminati-news.com/00363.html It was one of the best leaks/lies from the above. Now if you can consider it abstractly as the guy says, looking purely at the message, i think you'll gain some insight. And even if the guy was a fake, he still got the highest mental vibration i ever felt from someone. The best "lie-flow" if that was the case. That's still very useful you if later choose to troll them for real. May help you in other areas too. I'm sorry you get the rough treatment, but since if they so choose there's no way you can win the fight, give it up, stop thinking about it and get the most fun you can from the process. I understand you have family and duties etc, but this is not something you decided so, don't feel too bad for any kind of reaction you elect to adopt. Just keep it positive. Those that are doing this to you have been rotting on the inside for a lot or are ignorantly oblivious and sold. Use some compassion despite if you choose to shot the hungry bear or let him have his dinner. Either way don't feel bad about it. The most important thing is to use this positivity to push fear into those fuckers. And intelligence. You are going to a doctor you know is lying on a very ethic stuff, don't just go. Bring a microphone, register the conversation, then when he says "CIa, it's CIA", say well you should come testify so we can get them in jail, then record it all, put it with his name on the internet and archive it, then contact good alternative medias to spread the story. Real audios are very hard to prove wrong. Use tech to your advantage. This is all speculation and a kind of brainstorming, i don't mean to give you solutions, just the ideas i can see fit for crafting your owns. Goodbye good formatting, ahahah.

  • Dovie Hoeger

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  • Cordie Murphy

    First, welcome and congraulations on this new world. You've handled your own version of sub-frenzy pretty well. (Doms can get it too). Resisting the urge to buy and try all at once. its natural and fun but important to be cautious. If I can speak up for a friend here, get a copy of *Darling Discovered*. Its a submissive woman's journey from a vanilla marriage on the brink to successful D/s in a year of exploration. I can sense some similarities here, both of you should read it. I know its a true story and it worked out well because thew author is here and one of my cyber friends! I'll let her step in if she wishes: u/mrs-darling! https://www.amazon.com/Darling-Discovered-True-Story-Submission-ebook/dp/B01D3N5M3U Now to your bullet points: Poly and other relationships have the numbers advantage but I can assure you there are plenty of mono couples around too. The New Topping and New Bottoming Books might be good for you both to get an idea of the types of and responsibilities of each partner in a scene. /u/societyofJanus has a longer booklist. As far as your own boundaries, I consider myself mono. I'm single at the moment and for a number of reasons don't get into relationships with people I don't bond with first. However I have since had candle wax dripped on most of my body and hand/paddle/flogger spanks through my pants by a local organizer in my community. For her its a fun hobby she does with most kinky friends; to me its testing myself and my body before my next relationship. its not romatic or leading to sex for us. In the community you may find something you need to learn about like needles or complex ropework and it might be a good idea to have someone else help you as you start out. It can be done platonically as I learned and have experienced; but don't force yourself its that's an issue for either of you. Only the two of you can decide your boundaries. 2. I haven't looked at collars much myself but I know some use locking necklaces or braclets instead. Some with the O symbol or the BDSM triskele. 3. Most munches as far as I know are the friendly get-togethers. If its in a public restaurant and isn't for swinging (some swingers are on Fet though they apparently have their own separate websites), then you probably won't run into any flirting or the like. Even if you did, a simple "No thank you.' should be enough. If not either ask an organizer for help or leave. As far as finding the 'right one' see if you can find posts of past munches and see the comments. Go through the profiles of organizers; message one with your questions and see what they say. 4. Write your own journal. Let her see it for input on your ideas and as a communication tool so she knows where your head is at. Alternativly, a weekly 'kink meeting' between you without the kids or after they'r asleep to discuss new activties and a schedule for them may be in order. Perhaps a D/s contract? How in-depth they go and how strictly you follow it is up to you. 5. Okay this 1 is tough. Teachers and others are part of the community. The chances of a vanilla seeing you at a munch and knowing what it is are slim. Munches being in public are meant to blend in. Kinksters generally don't out kinksters so you'd all be there for the ame reason if a parent was at a munch too, though with such a sensitive job and new batches of parents every year I can see why you'd be cautious. No face shots, changing your Fet age to 96 and location to Antarctica, an alternative name at a munch (say your real name is Bob, your Fet name is HornyMaster07 but at munches you go by Rick), and maybe going to the further away events may help. If you do meet a parent of a current student, it's a risk but an agreement it never leaves the event, promise to avoid each other at more kinky events and maybe even scheduling to avoid each other are all possible steps. This has been done by parents and adult children who find out each other are in the community. Playing Well With Others is another book you may want. Examines the entire kink culture and how and why people can safely get involved. All the different symbols, types of D/s way more definitions then I could say here, the difference between a kink club, sex club, fetish night, leather bar etc. is all here. The back has a great long overview of many possible kinks and a chart for you to map out your experience and limit levels with each one. Also has a glossary of more books. https://www.amazon.com/Playing-Well-Others-Discovering-Communities/dp/0937609587/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1483220806&sr=1-1&keywords=playing+well+with+others hope this helped, I will try and answer any followup questions or concerns if you reply, good luck to you both! my own list of terms and such for newbies: https://www.reddit.com/r/BDSMcommunity/comments/5vyb7t/how_do_i_introduce_my_girfriend_to_bdsm/de5x4us/?context=3&st=izn5rhpb&sh=2a7c1dab

  • Florian Barton

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  • Estelle Cronin

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  • Aglae Gerlach

    IRELAND’S “MASS GRAVES” STORY IS FAKE NEWS Bill Donohue comments on news stories that Catholic nuns in Ireland housed a mass grave of babies: It was a lie in 2014 and it is a lie in 2017. There is no evidence of a mass grave outside a home for unmarried women operated by nuns in Tuam, Ireland, near Galway, in the 20th century. The hoax is now back again, and an obliging media are running with the story as if it were true. Any objective and independent reporter would be able to report what I am about to say, but unfortunately there are too many lazy and incompetent reporters prepared to swallow the latest moonshine about the Catholic Church. If there were a Pulitzer for Fake News, the competition would be fierce. Ireland’s Mother and Baby Commission completed its inquiry into this issue and released a statement on March 3rd about its findings today. The probe was a response to allegations made by a local historian, Catherine Corless, who claimed that 800 babies were buried in a tank outside the former Mother and Baby home that was operated by the Bon Secours nuns. The statement issued by the Mother and Baby Commission never mentions anything about a mass grave. Having completed a test excavation of the Tuam site, it found “significant quantities of human remains” in most of the underground sewage chambers. “These remains involved a number of individuals with age-at-death ranges from approximately 35 foetal weeks to 2-3 years.” That’s the story. If there were “mass graves,” not only would the official statement mention it, but so would Katherine Zappone TD, Minister for Children and Youth Affairs; she issued her formal remarks today. She says absolutely nothing about any “mass graves.” Moreover, when the government’s Interim Report was issued on July 12, 2016, it also made no mention of “mass graves.” “Experts Find Mass Grave at ex-Catholic Orphanage in Ireland.” That is what the Associated Press reported on March 3rd. The author, Shawn Pogatchnik, offers no evidence and no citation from the government’s report to prove his allegation. AP should know better given its lousy record on this subject. On June 3 and June 8, 2014, AP ran news stories on this subject and later had to apologize for making several factual errors. It now owes readers another apology. Reuters did a good job reporting on this issue: it never mentioned anything about the mythical “mass graves.” The Belfast Telegraph Online also offered an accurate account, but it was misleading in one way: it quoted Joan Burton of the Labor Party who cited the work of Corless, concluding that “it now appears” that there was “some kind of mass grave.” Her conjecture is based on Corless’ discredited account. Here is an excerpt from my 2014 report, “Ireland’s ‘Mass Grave’ Hysteria.” “The notion that a mass grave existed in the site of the Home is oddly enough credited to the same person who says there never was one. His name is Barry Sweeney. Here’s what happened. “In 1975, when Sweeney was 10, he and a friend, Frannie Hopkins, 12, were playing on the grounds where the home was when they stumbled on a hole with skeletons in it. “He [Sweeney] is quoted in the Irish Times saying ‘there was no way there were 800 skeletons down that hole. Nothing like that number.’ How many were there? ‘About 20,’ he says.” Douglas Dalby of the New York Times did a good job checking the facts and his account supports what I wrote. He quotes Sweeney saying, “People are making out we saw a mass grave. But we can only say what we seen [sic]: maybe 15-20 small skeletons.” The appetite to believe the worst about the Catholic Church, and Ireland’s nuns, is so great that many in the media will believe anything negative about it. Yet we know from the McAleese Report on the Magdalene Laundries that not a single nun was ever sexually assaulted by one of the sisters and that the conditions were not “prison like.” We also know that the movie, “Philomena,” was another smear job. Philomena Lee, upon whom the film was based, voluntarily turned her out-of-wedlock baby over to the nuns at the age of 22. After she signed a contract freely handing over her child to the nuns, the sisters helped her to find gainful employment. Contrary to what the movie said, Philomena never once set foot in the U.S. looking for her son. Indeed, she never set foot in the U.S. until it was time to hawk the movie. Mass graves. Sexually assaulted women. Children stolen. It is all a lie. It’s about time this non-stop assault on truth and the Catholic Church stopped before no one believes anything the media tell us anymore about all matters Catholic.

  • Keanu Satterfield

    > There is no such thing as solid shariah, there's no Islamic monolith, and there's really no consensus among Muslims as to what Islam is. And that's sort of the point of Islam. There's this guy. William Lane Craig. He's a Christian apologist. His job is to "defend the faith" from intellectual critics. Anyways... he's basically Hitler. Like, actually. Not as an exaggeration or an insult. See, there's this passage in the Old Testament where God tells his followers to murder everyone in a particular city, so they go in and butcher literally everyone. Women, children, all of them. And Craig's theological convictions are that the Bible is truthful and accurate and God is good. So, Craig has to explain this away. His chosen method is to claim that the culture of the city of slaughtered people was so awful that only a complete purge of even the babies could have rooted out its corruption. Of course that's not how people work, and that's how bad cultures work, and anyone who's alive in the 21st century has no excuse for not realizing that the excuses he's giving are the standard excuses of genocidal monsters and the apologists for the same. So, basically Hitler. The thing is, I don't think he WANTS to be Hitler. He just feels like he has to take a stance that makes him Hitler. He has a theological conviction about his holy text, and his holy text describes this happening, so... he has to rationalize it somehow. Its been about 2500+ years since the events in that story took place, assuming the story is even a true historical account. And people today are STILL making excuses for it. That's just how holy texts work. Now religions are funny things. Most Christians don't know that passage is even there. It isn't important to their daily lives, the Bible is really long and boring, and they're not interested in knowing about it. But a thousand years from now, so long as we continue to have Christians and those Christians continue to believe that God is good and that the Bible is true, we will continue to have little Hitlers like William Lane Craig. I have one Muslim acquaintance. Every time Islam looks bad in the news he posts this passage from the Quran in which Muhammad says some really flowery things about murder being bad. If you read the whole passage, and simply take its reading at face value, what Muhammad is ACTUALLY saying is that he told Christians and Jews not to murder, but some Christians and Jews murdered anyway, and that's why Muslims shouldn't associate with Christians and Jews. Trained theologians can no doubt come up with clever reasons why the facial meaning of the passage isn't the right one, and why there's a better meaning somewhere else. I've heard Jewish theologians explain that all the "eye for an eye" stuff actually means NOT an eye for an eye, because the reader is supposed to intuitively recognize how silly an eye for an eye actually is, and realize not to do it. Trained theologians can argue anything if they've got a mind to it. But the facial meaning is quite clear for anyone who reads it. And so long as Islam continues to value the Quran, that meaning will continue to have an influence. It won't be the only thing that influences everyday Muslim life. My friend who posts that passage seems to be completely unaware of what else the passage says, were he to read the whole thing. And I'm not going to tell him. Likewise, I don't go around telling Christians about the whole "sometimes God likes ethnic cleansing" thing from the Bible. Economics and politics and culture and sociology control whether many people focus on those passages, or whether they ignore them. But those passages are still there. And in a thousand years, if we still have Muslims, Christians, and Jews, we will still be arguing over whether its right to blame all of a religious minority for the crimes of a few, whether sometimes God likes ethnic cleansing, or exactly what "eye for an eye" really means. And since the apologetics that try to minimize our focus on those passages and redirect us away are incredibly bad (ancient religious thinkers did not write modern values into their texts), we're always going to have to deal with those ideas existing and influencing people. People act like it isn't about religion, its about economics and politics and so on. In reality, it IS about religion, but economics and politics and so on are the tools we use to defeat the ideas lurking in ancient scriptures written by people who's values are no longer acceptable in the modern era. And they're pretty effective tools. But the nature of this battle is that you never win it forever.

  • Imani Sawayn

    > Batman was pretty true to the original take on Batman. And was based on The Dark Knight Returns Batman, so that's a big fail. > How true to the character was lovesick just-a-rich-ninja Batman? The Batman whose motivations were explored in greater depth than any movie superhero? The one who demonstrated the irresponsible playboy facade, the brooding loner with only his Butler for a friend, and the monster who seems to appear and disappear in the shadows to terrify crime repeatedly? Very. > Or Judge Scarecrow Did you see Batman Begins? Scarecrow is a cowardly psychiatrist who loves torturing people with fear toxin to make himself powerful. So very accurate. Judge Scarecrow was a joke cameo, and his torn clothes suggest the other criminals forced him to do it, which is in character for the meek toxin-less guy anyway. > Or bumbling cynic Gordon? Bumbling? He caught Joker and regularly proved to be more badass than all of the younger cops. Cynical is in-character for Year One Gordon at least, which the movie version most closely resembles. > Or Robin? Robin wasn't in the movies. A guy named John Blake had a real name that was a really hamhanded reference to Robin, but Robin was not in the movies. > Batman originally was a killer of criminals. Which changed the second the writers knew kids read Batman, less than a year into the character's existence. And either way, this is supposed to be Dark Knight Returns Batman. Even if it was the original Batman, him killing is supposedly set in motion and stopped by the events of the film. Original Batman didn't have to break to kill, he just did like any other action hero. > They've been trying too give Superman a darker edge for years in the comics. And in all but the edgiest, he's still friendly. > Ma Kent wasn't telling Clark not to help people; she was telling him he had a choice. I didn't say she told him that, I said she told him it didn't matter whether he did or not. Which you agree with, so moving on... > Pa Kent wasn't telling Clark not to help people; he was protecting his son. ... by trying to prevent him from helping people. He scolded him for saving a busload of children. He came back from the dead to tell Superman that helping people sucks and last time he tried it, it fucked over other people. His role in the story is the devil on Superman's shoulder, eith Lois the angel telling him to help and his mom telling him to choose for himself. > Lois isn't shown to be a damsel in distress any more than she ever was; she goes poking her nose boldly into places that would get herself killed just like she always has. She fails at everything she tries so badly that she needs Superman to not die. Except for finding Superman. > I can also see why they didn't want to make Clark a bumbling reporte But that's the only thing that protects his identity. Without it, how does no one at the paper even point out how he looks like Superman? They talk about him all day and all Clark does is defend him. Hell, his disguise is so bad Batman sees through it after one scene. > A for WW, half the point of the movie was to show the effect Superman will have on other heroes. She is now getting off the sidelines But she didn't get off the sidelines because of Superman. She saw a news broadcast about a monster and jumped in to help. Which is fine, but it has nothing to do with Superman. > But don't be one of these fanboys that won't acknowledge anything good in them Here are some good things in them: Alfred Production design Action Zod Superman's parents being changed has the upside of giving Superman more of a say in how he acts Visuals Like 90% of what Amanda Waller does Margot Robbie as Harley Quinn The movies stand out from the superhero movie crowd And many other aspects I can't think of off the top of my head. > and who's made up his mind that they're garbage just because they're not perfect. Man of Steel isn't garbage. BVS and SS are garbage, but not because of anything I said above. They are garbage because they are a nonsensically jumbled list of scenes where anything between the beginning and end just kinda happens. They are garbage because of cringeworthy dialogue. SS doesn't have this next problem, but BVS is garbage because it's boring, even with its amazing premise and great action. > I think they're mostly turning out better than the X-Men franchise, but i guess that isn't saying much. The X-Men movies are too inconsistent for me to make that call. For every bad one there's a good one, for every one of those there's a just okay one.

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  • Luigi Toy

    I've actually mentioned this in other posts before although not delving into the mental aspects too much, but I think it's a mixture of natural disposition and the national culture to which I belong... Korean. It's quite possibly the most competitive culture in the world, where nothing less than being in the top 1-3% is viewed with ridicule among the "elite." That's also why you may have seen reddit posts re: Korea being the plastic surgery capital of the world, the worst working hours in the world, the highest suicide rate in the world, etc... I was told since I was just 8 or 9 that I should be aiming for universities like Yale. My father would very matter-of-factly point to certain girls as being "not very pretty," and when my older sister went to Penn State he called it a "똥통 대학교," roughly translated as a Shit Can University. Korea's an absurdly judgmental society. I'm not sure if you're even remotely aware of the country, but a major concern for Americans looking to spend a few years in Korea as an English teacher is "will Koreans tease me for being fat?" Youtube it, you'll see a ton of videos. Spoiler alert: Kinda sorta.. well yeah, they sorta will. And above all that is money. I've always been unusually acute of it. I've never displayed "greed" to the point where it's viewed as misanthropic, but all of my closest friends know this aspect of me. One friend told me I'm like the "nice version" of Daniel Plainview in "There will be Blood," not so much in terms of vicious mannerism but in all how seemingly too much of my self-worth is tied to it. And despite being a 1st generation Korean, being where I'm from (Guam), has presented us with some very unique opportunities. Most people in Guam itself probably don't recognize how unique it is. It's a tiny island where 27% of it is a military base, and nearly a billion dollars come from the federal govt. just for military infrastructure, and we're not even mentioning other federal projects coming from the FHWA for example. I'm relatively young, and I've personally seen someone be a cashier/owner from a mom and pop store to owning a company that does nearly a billion $ in revenue. I literally mean I've seen the entire progression from the beginning. People with no college education and little mastery of English go on to own 3 story buildings in Seattle and buy their children beautiful houses. I've seen this happen nearly a hundred times. The largest locally owned contractor in Hawaii, who's originally from here, owner of Nan Inc., literally started less than 3 decades ago with a deadbeat job, whose first federal project was to put up a few stop signs with 3 employees. He still visits once or twice a year. I even made a reddit post asking people in /r/construction how someone like, for example, Libertarian nominee Gary Johnson was able to create a huge construction company starting his career as a no-name handyman with no experience, no real expertise, virtually no financing, and seemingly no social influence. I mentioned a friend whose family has a "small" conglomerate doing business in the 9 figures. His parents don't even have a high school education, and started from scratch, and basically came from being "country kids" to being among the wealthiest in the country well within their own lifetimes. I could go on and on. I guess in addition to high expectations that were placed on me (and nope, never went to Yale or anywhere near it lol), too many people in my immediate vicinity went from absolutely shite-nothing to being major successes, and just objectively, I don't feel like I'm any less ambitious, hard working, or smart as they were. It's an overused sentiment, but I've always felt like there was this hole inside of me. I don't even have any ambitions of material wealth, and I always thought "legacy" was ludicrous. I just want it, have always wanted it, and I don't know why. The strangest thing about all this is that my own parents are now "westernized," so now they think I'm weird for maintaining our "old ways," and am genuinely concerned about my happiness. I personally feel betrayed by them lol, since I feel the way they taught me has so much to do with who I am now. I think the thing I'm most fearful second to never attaining true wealth is this, which a redditor posted before and i watch every few months: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jf4hSjUNInU

  • Nikko Graham

    for /u/xColxMustardx or any other who has "avoided" the book for fear of theological contamination... I read the book because it was sent to me by a dear friend. A woman, who had been raped as a child, as I had. It was a hard book to read, and I raised eyebrows at its theology, but I absolutely disagree with the author of this article about the centrality of the book, and by extension the value of its story. I get that I'm posting in the holy of holies of trinitarianism, and that many reading this will discount what I say on the basis of it, but the trinity is, to me, bunk. A farce, a fable - and I'm not about to debate that with anyone here, or answer carefully contrived questions about who Jesus was, or this or that or that or this, designed to educate me. I read the Bible. I've been reading it for 40 years. A pedantic argument on reddit is not about to convince me of what I am firmly convinced is Christendom's naked emperor and grandiose shibboleth. What I *am* here to say is that being molested from ages 4-18 by not my own but an adoptive father, and with clues to it starting even earlier, of having a life filled with addiction, betrayal, loneliness, rage, bitterness, sorrow, grief, ending in STD infection and zero prospect of marriage - was in part answered by the portrayal of the heart of God as depicted in this book. YHWH scares me. He's the angry father with a belt. Adoption? No thanks. Bride - *bride!* of a man? Nope, been there, done essentially that. A father who loves and smites? Seen that narcissism, that compartmentalization, that psychosis, a father looking at his son with lust - yuck. I'm saying that it's taken twenty years for me not to look at any father with his child and not suspect him a paedophile. I'm saying that I still get nightmares. I'm saying that there are locked rooms inside me where screaming comes from. I'm saying I've seen some shit. PTSD is my bitch, now. I'm as human as you, but I've built muscles in part of my psyche by sheer resistance, which most intact folks won't even know about. If you've not had a part of you amputated - you won't think about it nearly as much as an amputee. I think I've made my point, which is not my central point. And my central point is, that the book's depiction of the trinity, which more amuses than offends me but offends me still - was not sufficient to deter me from receiving a benefit from the book, nor were the finer points of departure from orthodox doctrine. ortho, not Ortho, dig? Jesus as submitted to me is a ridiculous concept, but it doesn't change the message of redemption. There is a God who cares about children who lie awake every night, waiting for him (or her) to commit a crime against nature. And that same God as depicted, in a story I'd best describe as a modern-day Job narrative (though not entirely congruent) cares about far more horrible outrages, which our news and darknets and urban legends assure us are true. Theology is important, but soteriology is more important. What God is matters less to me in my life than Who He is. The Shack is a story, as real as any untrue thing is (which is to say, more than some suspect) that helps to suggest some attributes of God. The article misses one important scene in the book. **spoiler alert** The father at one point looks at Papa and asks how it is that villian of the story can get off scot-free? It is one of few moments of seriousness in the narrative, and Papa's face changes and he looks at the bereaved father and says *I assure you, that the last thing this man is, is free*. That bit still gives me the chills, because I know it to be true. In that statement is contained, IMHO, all the necessary and useful theology of the book, and the axis about which it revolves: sin enslaves, and God is in the liberty business. He has come that we may have life, and have it more abundantly. The bomb-blast debris scatter of destruction that the lives of so many resemble, whether by omission, commission, or collusion or innocence of their own - is a pattern that only an omniscient and benevolent being can direct the reassembly of. I trust Jesus Christ because of the abuse He suffered, and the example He gave while on earth, not because of His exact nature as expressed in a church doctrine. I hardly care about those things at all, next to the majesty of perfect love, displayed to the universe, and the promise that I, wretched creature that I am, may against all logic and comprehension, be able to share in that nature, and be free of this beautiful horror of a world.

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  • Eriberto Hodkiewicz

    >Cloud never really acted like Zack, expect for his body language and some of his memories confused with his- Cloud acted like he thought a true Solider would act, confident, cocky and cold. "Cloud: I was so ashamed of being so weak; then I heard this story from my friend Zack... And I created an illusion of myself made up of what I had seen in my life...... And I continued to play the charade as if it were true." Can't it be both? Cloud was close friends with Zack and looked up to him, i'm pretty sure he got his ideas about how a true SOLDIER would act from Zack himself. Does this mean he's going to act exactly like Zack? Of course not. He just uses Zack's stories (which are probably a bit embellished already) and mixes them with how he thinks a SOLDIER should act. It's still an alternate personality that's not the 'real' Cloud; the game makes that very clear that the 'real' Cloud is the Cloud that emerges from the Lifestream in disc 2. "Tifa: Barret...... I ...... When I was in the Lifestream I saw the real Cloud. I mean, I didn't really find him. Cloud found himself on his own..." >Cloud was a friendly and cheerful and brave character after his identity is found Friendlier? Yeah I agree; he shows sympathy to Yuffie being motion sick. He's friendly in Advent Children as well, helping Tifa to take care of Marlene and being a surrogate father to Denzel. But as for being brave and cheerful... well for one, Cloud displays claustrophobia in the submarine. But also too this goes along with what the one poster said about people not understanding how mental illness works. Cloud had disassociative identity disorder. Cloud was always an emotionally weak person by his own admission. It's very likely that his 'SOLDIER' persona was created to protect the 'real Cloud' from the emotional trauma he witnessed; like seeing his hometown burned down, his mom dying trapped in the fires, watching Sephiroth (to his knowledge) kill Tifa with a sword right in front of him, being nearly killed by Sephiroth himself, and watching Zack brutally gunned down in front of him. So all the trauma that happened in the main part of the game, from bombing the reactor to seeing Sephiroth kill Aerith... all of that was experienced by his 'SOLDIER' persona. As soon as he recovered his true self his life was 'holy shit, hurry up and stop meteor and kill sephiroth ASAP'. He had no choice, he had to be brave or be dead. He also had no time to mentally process everything that happened to him during the course of the game. Advent Children is about what happens to soldiers when they come *back* from war and they have all that silent time to think to themselves. That's how PTSD works. That's why veterans suffer from high rates of anxiety disorders, depression and suicide. Your mind goes into 'surivival' mode during intense moments of battle, and it's not until days, months or even years later that the weight of everything hits them. Clearly Cloud felt personally responsible for Aerith and Zack's deaths and it ate away at him. It's classic [survivor's guilt](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Survivor_guilt). Most of the character's resolve their issues earlier in the game (like Barret). Cloud & Tifa don't have theirs resolved until the end, and they were the ones most traumatized by the events of the game so it makes sense that its the hardest for them to move on. People often grow, develop and change over time. In fact one of the complaints about other FF games is that the characters have little change or development. FF7 is a story that covers Cloud's life from childhood to his mid 20's; you'd expect someone like him to go through a hell of a lot of changes, especially considering what he had to go through. People complaining about 'emo' cloud don't want realistic characters; they want idealistic heroes with no flaws.

  • Mavis Huel

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  • Damion Parker

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  • Linnea Keebler

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  • Ciara Ebert

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  • Cruz Beier

    Your first three statements proved exactly my point friend. Everyone has a religion. So which religion is the right one? Scriptures claim is that God is all knowing. And as someone who is all knowing everything He says about Himself and the Universe would then be true. So then you have three philosophical questions to answer. What is truth? Is truth Knowable? If it is knowable that can it be proven untrue? Jesus stood before Pilate in silence being accused of many things. But when Pilate asked Him why he was here on earth his response is very interesting. It wasn't to seek and save the lost like many would say. Instead he says, 'I am here to testify to the Truth.' Wow! That means there is something called absolute truth. And if that's the case. And Jesus is who he claims to be, then He knows the truth. The Bible is not fictional my friend it is a collection of History as God tells it. And again I would assert that your definition of 'Christian' and mine are clearly not the same. You see it as merely going to church and praying prayers.... that's not what it is. You have no personal relationship with Jesus Christ who is Lord and Saviour of the world. Immanuel is 'God with us.' God choose before He ever created the world to have a plan in place to save it knowing that Adam and Eve would sin. That was their free will. So the merciful God sent His only son, who was without sin to die on a cross, the perfect sacrifice to take the punishment that you and I rightly deserve for all the sins we commit in our life. And not just us, but indeed the world! All sin for all mankind. He bore that weight on himself so that we, the children of God could one day be reunited with our creator. All we have to do is acknowledge our sin and repent and Jesus will mediate for us to God the righteous judge of the world. This is like no other religion, ever. Like I said, when you truly understand the truth the Christ brings them all other aspects of life start to make sense. The why are we here questions? The what is meaning of life question? I would advise you to seriously consider getting a Bible and sitting down with it and read it for yourself. Truth discovered unto oneself is truth that is established forever. I was in your shoes as well my friend. I didn't want to listen to a pastor tell a story on Sunday morning so I could look good to other people. I had to read what God says about Himself. Don't take my word for it. Or anyone else's.

  • Cortney O'Keefe

    I've gone through the same issue when I worry I am acting like NM. My biggest problems have included learning how to show love to those close to me and not trying to control others through manipulation. I will say, you're on the right track in that you are cognizant that you have this problem. A true N doesn't believe he or she has a problem and that everyone else has issues. I once read about the children of N's that we aren't all necessarily N's as well, we just have "fleas." We have our Nparent mannerisms because that is all we have learned from them. It will take some practice, but you CAN change. Unfortunately, it may be at the cost of a few friendships. When I "came out" as the child of N's to good, close friends, they usually had one of two different reactions. The first group who had normal, loving parents were pretty shocked or maybe even in disbelief at first, but as I came clean with everything NM had done over the years, they slowly grew to understand. The second reaction I've seen is from friends who also have N parents, but haven't yet dealt with it. Those friends tend to react negatively to my choice to have no contact with NM because, on a subconscious level, they recognize that their N parents are also toxic and they feel threatened or ashamed because they still keep contact with their parents. I actually had one former friend tell me a story about something genuinely awful his mother said to him the day before, then in the same moment, VERY passive aggressively, said, "But I'm still going to talk to my mother because I'm a MATURE ADULT!" Unless a person is a close friend, I don't usually talk about NM to other people. I've reached a point in dealing with her N that I am secure in who I am and don't need validation from other people about it, and I recognize it was REALLY hard to get this point. As for your friend who you hurt, I'm sorry you're going through that right now. There is no worse feeling than hurting someone else and recognizing you have done it, but your silver lining is that you can only recognize this because you are not a N. I know it isn't easy, but I would recommend apologizing and giving your friend a lot of space. If the relationship can be repaired it will, and if not, you'll have to move on and work not to behave the same way with a new friend.

  • Nash Hansen

    This is one of those 'old family stories', told by my dad's best friend for years. So I can't say absolutely that this is true, but I do know the family very well, and I find this story to be very believable. Dad's Best Friend was one of several children. They grew up *very* poor, like 'no glass in the windows so you woke up with snow in your bedroom' poor. Their dad was decent to them, but he was also a serious alcoholic so he was...unreliable, to say the least. One morning, the dad (John) decides to take one of the younger boys (Tommy, 9 or 10yo at the time) out deer hunting with him. So they load up and head out into the woods. John sets Tommy up at the base of a tree, tells him to stay put, and heads off a ways to set up under a different tree. Tommy does his thing, sitting around and waiting for deer. Then he realizes he wasn't heard anything from his dad for a while. But he waits some more...and some more...and finally gets scared and starts yelling for John. But there's no response. At this point, Tommy has been alone in the woods for hours, he's all alone, and now he's terrified . So he takes off, running through the woods, screaming for his dad, for help, probably for little baby Jesus in the manger. Finally, Tommy makes it out of the woods to a paved road. He picks a direction and starts walking, and eventually comes across a random dive bar. By now, Tommy is hysterical, crying, sweating, dirty...just a mess. He bursts into the bar and yells, "MY NAME IS TOMMY DOE AND I'M LOST!!!". Every single person in the bar turns around and looks at him for a second, but no one says a word. Finally, one guys calls back, "Are you John Doe's boy?" "Yes!" "Well, sit down boy. Your dad will be along in a while." They sat Tommy down at the bar and gave him a Coke and something to eat. Not too long after that, right as it's getting dark outside and exactly as predicted, John comes strolling into the bar. He sees his 10year old kid sitting there, filthy and traumatized, and says "oh hey Tommy, what are you doing here?" Tommy loses his shit and freaks out at John for a while about being left for dead in the wilderness. John just sat and drank his beer until the rant was finished and said, "Oh. Well don't tell your mom".

  • Jonatan Miller

    *I am answering your specific question, but this is not to say racism does not exist. I think race relations would be better served if facts were what we based our decisions on.* Unless it is an undeniable intentionally racist comment or action, Dan often plays the race card while saying "so-and-so may not have meant to be racist but they should have said it differently because people feel it was racist." I am bad on specific recall of names but it's not an uncommon occurrence on the show. I think this most closely mirrors the current situation. Last month Dan cited a story from a left-wing source that interpreted a study to say that black fathers are just as involved with their children as white fathers. He and Bomoni paraded this story around as though it was the debunking of a terrible myth. The study however compared fathers with similar living arrangements. So it was comparing black fathers who live with their children with white fathers who also live with their children & absent black fathers with absent white fathers. There was no debunking of the idea that there are more absent black fathers (by %) than there are absent white fathers. The general support for "Black Lives Matter" and their message is another one that ignores facts. The spark that started that organization was a lie about "Hands up don't shoot." Witnesses say there was no such exchange and the officer was attacked by Brown. The line came from Brown's friend who had just been an accomplice in the robbery and was not true. The main message of Black Lives Matter is that police officers are killing black men at an alarming rate. The best available evidence shows that when blacks have an encounter with a police officer, they are actually less likely to be shot than a white. On the other hand, blacks are more likely to have physical force used than whites and I would be happy to see pressure to understand why, but we can't when we are worried about a problem that is not evidence based. BLM was started based on a lie and has a primary message that is not evidence based. Dan's response to this is to say blacks "feel" like they are under attack and therefore it doesn't matter if it's not evidence based.

  • Kristy Wilkinson

    >He heard it from Skarpi, who we trust for two reasons. I don't completely trust Skarpi's orlal tradition stories. I think they are the basis for Kvothe's tragedy. But I take your meanin, that you trust him for the following reasons: >1) Skarpi gives off an air of unusual knowledge and wisdom. His interaction with the church, his knowledge of Kvothe's name, and of course the story matching up very well with what we already knew from Kvothe's experience with the Chandrian. In the frame story he is set up as a mentor to Chronicler, a world renowned collector of stories. Why was Skarpi telling stories in dive bars to street urchins for pennies? >2) Kvothe mentions Skarpi as a friend in the framing story as well, meaning that they most likely meet again, and that he still trusts Skarpi. More reason for us to place our faith in his version of events. I disagree. Kvothe's attitude is stand offish to me neither confirming Skarpi as friend or foe. He calls him a rumor monger too. Kvothe comments on how it figures that Skarpi would be the first to find him. Why does it figure? Is it because Skarpi was the first to find Kvothe before....in a dive bar, dockside in Tarbean? Even if Skarpi is a decent fellow, he was telling a story to entertain children. Kvothe however, may have jumped to the wrong conclusion. Something Kvothe does quite often. From a story building perspective, the tone of Skarpi's story is told very carefully to give the impression of historical fact in contrast to the other lore stories which are more like fairy tales. I think this is Patrick Rothfuss's setup. We the reader are more accepting of this authoritative and historical tone. The actual truth is that Skarpi admits that the story contains some latitude with the truth. It also is from a time when actual histories are dismissed as doubtful rumor. So is Skarpi telling a true story? No. He is telling a doubtful rumor to entertain a room full of children? Kvothe simply took it as fact.

  • Lilian Wilkinson

    not me, but the dude I was sort of dating at the time hated the guy my best friend was dating. let's call him George. George was my best frend's boyfriend, and everyone loved him. funny, always a good time. always down to party. my ex says the first day he meets him, "there's no way this dude isn't completely full of shit." I brush it off because we weren't that serious anyway. he kept telling me to keep an eye out, and don't turn your back to him. I just thought he was jealous I had a close male friend. in the 4 months George lived with me and my best friend, he stole from right under our noses. he stole money, books, video games, dvds, even stole my super nintendo but left 1 controller as if to make me seem I misplaced it. he stole our neighbors fucking tv remotes for some reason. he left death threats towards me on said neighbor's phone. he lied about where he lived (lived with his mom in a trailer home, not a 4 bedroom house), lied about having kids (said he didn't have any.. he had 2 children. ages like 5 & 7. my best friend found this and more out in a different story, when she confronted George's mom only to find George's baby mama lives with her, along w/the kids), lied about his profession (said he was a dj, he was unemployed). he faked his death once. the list goes on but you get it. we were young and naive, but also have never met someone so comfortable with themselves, him lying seemed ridiculous. like why would anyone want to lie about any of that shit? he caused my best friend of 15 years and I to not speak for 3 years, as he drove us against each other. forced her to choose him or me. he ruined my perception of people. to this day, my social anxiety is still fucking stupid because I have a hard time trusting anyone I meet. we let him into our home, we had amazing times together, he was one of my best friends. I was happy for my girl to find such a lovely man. but George was a compulsive liar. a true klepto. he's apparently actually dead now, as his mother arranged a service last year I believe. I didn't go. I'll just never forget because my ex was the only one who doubted him, and told me how he felt the guy was "off." if only I had listened.

  • Stephan Kilback

    Late to the party but perfect story for this. My good friend had a party one night, where I met a new friend of hers. This friend, we'll call him Chuckles, was relatively attractive, brought a yummy dish to the party, but I noticed immediately that he was very eager to please. I remember thinking that he was trying a little too hard, just trying to be charming as fuck and succeeding for he most part. She later starts to date Chuckles, and I'm genuinely happy for her. I met him one more time after they began dating for a brief period, and had the same feeling like he was just a little fake and forced in his charm. So I googled him. Found a blog someone had made of court documents that showed this guys tanglings with some of the local county courts. Chuckles had multiple restraining orders, including against his ex wife and children. He also had a breaking and entering conviction, and a couple of stalking orders. Some were still active, some were not. These we were all filed by women he had been romantic with or had forced himself upon. The person who made the blog claimed to have done so to help protect others from Chuckles' violent behavior. Additional searches verified these documents. I ended up telling my friend about what I had found. She talked to Chuckles about this I guess after she learned of it from me, but then of course he told her of how everything on the court docs was extrapolated or contrived in some way and--aside from one Peeping-Tom episode for which he admits and feels very ashamed--none of it is true. My friend drank his cool aid. After they had been together for a couple months, more stories came out through the community of how he has been excluded from different groups at the university in town, etc... for aggressively bothering women and forcing himself upon them. She continues to date him despite now multiple people in her life have warned her against him. She seems to be happy but I sincerely hope she isn't blinded by his charm.

  • Hallie Stokes

    Seriously??? 16 and you want to die because of a girl? Who slept with your best friend before you even dated her?? You have some other serious mental issues and need to seek a professional ASAP. I have wanted to commit suicide since I was 10, am now currently 40. Raised 2 children and have 1 grandbaby. I still don't want to be alive. But over a damn boyfriend at 16??? Please say this is a sick joke for attention! My birth mother walked out on me at 2 and kept the other 4 children. I've never met any of that family. My fathers third wife hated me with a passion and put me down every single day I was in that house...retarded, stupid, ugly, don't look human, don't look like a female, if I wore perfume I was called a French whore....every day of my life from 5 until 16 the last time I ran away. My father would beat and choke me until I had peed my pants up until 14. I ran away at age 9 for the first time to try finding my birth mother...never found her until 19 when I was a mother. I've had 5 long term relationships where I was beat on, had butcher knives held to my throat, belts wrapped around my neck and drug you and down three flights of stairs. Had my own children tell me to go kill myself. I've made 8 attempts and that makes me feel like a further failure. Oh yea. And my fathers family kicked me out because I wasn't married when i had my daughter. I've been all alone besides my kids and men beating me I have zero self esteem and zero self confidence for as long as I can remember. I graduated college with a 4.0 but did that take away any pain? No. No pain gone. I could go on and on with my disappointments but don't care to. I'm not buying your story and it's extremely insulting to us people who have to fight off taking our lives day by day. Sometimes minute by minute. So you are fooling nobody here. Suck it up buttercup. She haven't seen real true pain and an unwillingness to live. You are insulting to us who truly fight these demons ona daily basis.

  • Andres Connelly

    I think it depends on the story. If it is a comedy, romance or fluff based fanfiction, a nice epilogue will round everything up. But in thrillers, horror, angst, war based fanfiction something like a positive look into the future is sufficient. F.e. "The war was won and everything was good. There will be trials, some rounding up, a lot of build up but the good side prevailed and GG." No need for person X married person Y, had four children named XY, YX, XX, YY and bla bla bla. > My friend finds my epilogues dumb because they don't really contribute to the 'plot or 'themes' or the stories. Make your friend read [Amalgum – Lockhart's Folly](https://www.fanfiction.net/s/11913447/1/Amalgum-Lockhart-s-Folly) because it has IMO the most glorious epilogue ever. The fic itself is a one sided redo fic where Harry in Gilderoy Lockharts body does everything to make Harrys life easy, while staying true to Lockharts ridiculous and pompous nature. Has sadly unneeded, extreme, Ron bashing, and some loop holes here and there. Yet besides that the epilogue here contributes A LOT to the story and is just glorious :).

  • Zoe Towne

    Technically, I met my FH at work (this is the G-rated version). The true story is we met at work, but only got together because a friend we were both sleeping with separately wanted a threesome. She had a huge one-sided crush on FH, and thought that providing him a weekend of debauchery would win him over. All it ended up doing was making her jealous and allowing FH and I to find out we were more compatible than we thought! He was a fence sitter, but after being forced to live with children for over a year he came over to the dark side 😉 I'm sorry that after so long, your marriage is coming to an end over children. I'm hopeful and confident that you'll be able to meet a nee partner in due time who can agree with you in that area.

  • Karina Nicolas

    >Political scientists tell us that democracies require a little faith. ...You have to assume that institutions will be fair and that leaders will act in the country’s best interest. >...The president is right that they don’t believe. But he’s wrong to take credit for it — and wrong to suggest that there’s much that can be done. There's a lot that can be done and needs to be done, it just won't be easy. For "big business," they're hard to trust when they believe things like this: http://www.nytimes.com/1970/09/13/archives/a-friedman-doctrine-the-social-responsibility-of-business-is-to.html >The Social Responsibility Of Business Is to Increase Its Profits http://www.huffingtonpost.com/george-mcgraw/nestle-chairman-peter-brabeck-water_b_3150150.html >Human beings have no right to water http://www.nytimes.com/roomfordebate/2015/04/16/what-are-corporations-obligations-to-shareholders/a-duty-to-shareholder-value >The leading statement of the law's view on corporate social responsibility goes back to Dodge v. Ford Motor Co, a 1919 decision that held that "a business corporation is organized and carried on primarily for the profit of the stockholders." That case — in which Henry Ford was challenged by shareholders when he tried to reduce car prices at their expense — also established that "it is not within the lawful powers of a board of directors to shape and conduct the affairs of a corporation for the merely incidental benefit of shareholders and for the primary purpose of benefiting others." >Despite contrary claims by some academics and Occupy Wall Street-type partisans, this remains the law today. A 2010 decision, for example, eBay Domestic Holdings Inc. v. Newmark, held that corporate directors are bound by "fiduciary duties and standards" which include "acting to promote the value of the corporation for the benefit of its stockholders." https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/maximizing-shareholder-value-the-goal-that-changed-corporate-america/2013/08/26/26e9ca8e-ed74-11e2-9008-61e94a7ea20d_story.html >Investors in IBM’s shares, by contrast, have fared much better. IBM makes up the biggest portion of the benchmark Dow Jones industrial average and has helped drive that index to record highs. >...It used to be a given that the interests of corporations and communities ... were closely aligned. But no more. Across the United States, as companies continue posting record profits, workers face high unemployment and stagnant wages. >Driving this change is a deep-seated belief that took hold in corporate America a few decades ago and has come to define today’s economy — that a company’s primary purpose is to maximize shareholder value. >The belief that shareholders come first is not codified by statute. Rather, it was introduced by a handful of free-market academics in the 1970s and then picked up by business leaders and the media until it became an oft-repeated mantra in the corporate world. >Together with new competition overseas, the pressure to respond to the short-term demands of Wall Street has paved the way for an economy in which companies are increasingly disconnected from the state of the nation, laying off workers in huge waves, keeping average wages low and threatening to move operations abroad in the face of regulations and taxes. >...“The shift in what employers think of as their role not just in the community but [relative] to their workforce is quite radical, and I think it has led to the last two jobless recoveries,” said Ron Hira, an associate professor of public policy at the Rochester Institute of Technology. >The change can be seen in statements from IBM’s leaders over the years. When he was IBM’s president and chief executive, Thomas J. Watson Jr., son of the company’s founder, spoke explicitly about balancing a company’s interests with the country’s. Current chief executive Virginia Rometty has pledged to follow a plan called the “2015 Road Map” in which the primary goal is to dramatically raise the company’s earnings-per-share figure, a metric favored by Wall Street. http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/15/business/15atlas.html >The book is “Atlas Shrugged,” Ayn Rand’s glorification of the right of individuals to live entirely for their own interest. >For years, Rand’s message was attacked by intellectuals whom her circle labeled “do-gooders,” who argued that individuals should also work in the service of others. Her book was dismissed as an homage to greed. Gore Vidal described its philosophy as “nearly perfect in its immorality.” >But the book attracted a coterie of fans, some of them top corporate executives, who dared not speak of its impact except in private. When they read the book, often as college students, they now say, it gave form and substance to their inchoate thoughts, showing there is no conflict between private ambition and public benefit. >“I know from talking to a lot of Fortune 500 C.E.O.’s that ‘Atlas Shrugged’ has had a significant effect on their business decisions, even if they don’t agree with all of Ayn Rand’s ideas,” said John A. Allison, the chief executive of BB&T, one of the largest banks in the United States. >“It offers something other books don’t: the principles that apply to business and to life in general. I would call it complete,” he said. and do things like this: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2013-07-11/at-sears-eddie-lamperts-warring-divisions-model-adds-to-the-troubles >In January, eight years after Lampert masterminded Kmart’s $12 billion buyout of Sears in 2005, the board appointed him chief executive officer of the 120-year-old retailer. ... Since the takeover, Sears Holdings’ sales have dropped from $49.1 billion to $39.9 billion, and its stock has sunk 64 percent. ... “The way it’s being managed, it doesn’t work,” says Mary Ross Gilbert, a managing director at investment bank Imperial Capital. “They’re going to continue to deteriorate.” >Plagued by the realities threatening many retail stores, Sears also faces a unique problem: Lampert. Many of its troubles can be traced to an organizational model the chairman implemented five years ago, an idea he has said will save the company. Lampert runs Sears like a hedge fund portfolio, with dozens of autonomous businesses competing for his attention and money. An outspoken advocate of free-market economics and fan of the novelist Ayn Rand, he created the model because he expected the invisible hand of the market to drive better results. If the company’s leaders were told to act selfishly, he argued, they would run their divisions in a rational manner, boosting overall performance. >Instead, the divisions turned against each other—and Sears and Kmart, the overarching brands, suffered. Interviews with more than 40 former executives, many of whom sat at the highest levels of the company, paint a picture of a business that’s ravaged by infighting as its divisions battle over fewer resources. (Many declined to go on the record for a variety of reasons, including fear of angering Lampert.) https://books.google.com/books?id=zIO3BgAAQBAJ&pg=PT10&lpg=PT10&source=bl&ots=TAr4mBYhOi&sig=uFhXs6ZjLuts2k7LpG9MKDiLtjw&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjN_K70xMDSAhXj5oMKHRBXBaUQ6AEINjAE#v=onepage&q&f=false >Nestle identified a large market in Africa for its infant formula. Without any regard for the prospective customer, Nestle, through mass media tactics, promoted this infant formula as the modern way a "loving parent" should feed a baby. Reports indicate that in some cases, mothers of dead babies place cans of formula at the graves to show that they cared to do the very best they could for their children; even though Nestle knows that the formula never could replace the natural immunities provided in breast milk and was therefore, a contributing factor in the causes of the babies' deaths. https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2015/09/how-wall-streets-bankers-stayed-out-of-jail/399368/ >The probes into bank fraud leading up to the financial industry’s crash have been quietly closed. Is this justice? https://cambridgeanalytica.org/news/press/1465 >But, like almost everything else in the politics of 2016, appearances were deceptive. Behind the scenes, Mr Trump’s aides used data in an innovative way. It raises unsettling questions and also throws down a gauntlet to the corporate world. >The issue revolves around a company called Cambridge Analytica, created by British data scientists ... and which is now mostly owned by the Mercer family, who are big Republican donors. >CA has built a franchise by promoting a proprietary technique known as “psychographs,” which tries to influence consumers, and voters, with micro-targeted messages designed around market data and psychological profiling. http://web.archive.org/web/20150901040354/http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/clinton-quietly-discourage-biden-2016-bid-33374845 >...her team rolled out a string of high-profile endorsements in early-voting states and scheduled an onslaught of fundraisers across the country in the effort to ice a Biden bid before he even gets started. >Behind the scenes, they're pressuring donors and delegates to pledge their loyalty to Clinton. http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-biden-idUSKCN0QV01U20150826 >Biden's inner circle has been working vigorously to reach out to undecided donors, according to sources close to the Draft Biden Super PAC. A meeting with potential donors is set to occur after Labor Day. >On Monday and Tuesday, Reuters interviewed 13 political activists who are among the Democratic Party's top donors and bundlers. As recently as February, when initially contacted by Reuters, seven of them were undecided, though all have since thrown their support - and fundraising machines - behind Clinton. They literally kill babies and install fascist dictators in our country. If they had let Biden run, we would have won the cold war by now. Of course people don't trust them.

  • Benedict Ernser

    > > > This is a big post. If you are lazy, read at least the 13 subtitles. Those might make you read the rest. > > This is a text in progress. If you post a comment with another strong point, I might add it with credits to you, if you are the original author or alternatively to him. > > We are a pattern of organization of a bunch of atoms that, by pure environmental circumstances and chance, gained conscience; it would be astonishing that, only because of this awareness, we were destined for a greater fate than the other common bunch of atoms. > > We are going to return to our natural state, our only real "permanent home", where we already spent almost an eternity (see https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1432165.msg17423455#msg17423455), before being born: nothingness. > > There is no use to invent a helping imaginary "friend" who will offer you immortality. > > It's absurd to ruin your life (a lucky but tiny oasis of awareness that exists between two almost infinite deserts of nothingness) by following absurd or immoral rules invented by primitive people of the Bronze Age which have no relation whatsoever with the happiness of other people. > > Face your destiny in the eyes and live proud for having no leach, but the one imposed by your fellow human beings organized as a society (supposedly) for the benefice of all. > > However, I don't have anything against a sincere believer. You are my fellow human being who share with me our finite condition. You just found a different (erroneous, from my perspective) way to deal with it. > > The arguments presented were written thinking on the three main monotheist religions and, especially, Christianism. But most of them apply also to all other religions. > > My goal isn't offending you, but just to induce you to question the roots and logic of your faith. > > I also don't really want to convince you to be an atheist, but just a skeptical or, at least, someone with doubts. > > There isn't anything more dangerous for you, and for others, than you being absolutely certain about something like your religious beliefs. > > Those absolute beliefs can change completely your philosophy, Ethics and life goals and not for the good. > > It's when religious people start being fanatics. They know the "truth", so, from my perspective, they are literally deadly wrong. > > It's when they are ready to start killing themselves or others for their beliefs or, at least, persecute people with different beliefs or without religious beliefs. > > As long as you have doubts, you can say you are still a religious person, but you will be a safer person for yourself and for others. > > In reality, you will live this life like if it was the only one you have (see point 11). You will give it more value and will be more tolerant with others. > > > > >1) God is a human creation. > > All the hundreds of religions/sects and their multiple absolute contradictions seem to be plenty evidence that all gods are human creations. > > The same conclusion can be based on the known influences of ancient myths and religions on the current main religions [the flood, the virgin birth, the resurrection after 3 days, Christmas day, Sunday (day of the Sun, the roman god Sol Invictus) as the holiday and not the Sabbath, etc.]. > > Gods are just one of the illusions mankind uses in order to be able to deal with the conscience of the inevitability of death. Humans created a god and an afterlife mainly (this also stimulate cooperation and obedience) because they feel anguish about dying. (Freud, Thoughts for the times on war and death, 1915, Part II) > > Even in the religions that claim to worship the same god, the contradictions are overwhelming. > > As you know, both Christians and Muslims say they worship the Torah's god, Yahweh. Islam says Jesus was an important prophet, but not the son of god. And Christians simple reject that Muhammad was a prophet. But the Qur'an says that its god is the god that sent Abraham, Moses and Jesus. > > But Yahweh initially was just a god in the middle of others. Most Jews, even during David times (about 1000 BC) and after, kept praying to other gods of the Canaanites (Semitic people comprising the Phoenicians, the Jews and some other peoples of the Levant). > > There is controversy, but Yahweh has been identified with EL, the supreme god of the Canaanites, that had one or two wives and an extensive number of sons (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/El_(deity)#Hebrew_Bible). Or, initially, with one of his sons: sometimes, Baal (the confusion was easy, because Baal means Lord; clearly, later, the Torah fights this identification, by ridiculing Baal), sometimes Hadad, sometimes a different son. > > In some of the Jewish holy books, we can still find several traces of this evolution, with references to a council of the gods presided by EL/Yahweh (Psalm 82:1 and 6; 1 Kings 22:19) or to different gods (Deuteronomy 32:8–9) (see, a summary in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Divine_Council#Hebrew). > > Well, the Greeks were influenced by the Phoenicians and copied their gods, with different names. El was Uranus, the father of all gods (or sometimes Cronus, since some mythology says El was not the original god, but rather Elioun), that was deposed by his son, Cronus. Cronus was deposed by Zeus. The Romans used the same Gods (Caelus as Uranus; Saturn as Cronus and Jupiter as Zeus). > > So, are the believers on the three main religions praying to Uranus (Caelus) or even to Cronus (Saturn)? > > But, even if they are considered the same god, just compare the vengeful and jealous god of the Torah with the loving and forgiven god invented by Jesus. > > The contradictions are so big between them that some scholars (like Marcion of Sinope: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcionism) and christian sects (like the Gnostics: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gnosticism#Dualism_and_monism) even defended that Yahweh, the Torah's god, was a different god or even the devil. > > Some of the most fracturing religious issues, like the so-called divine nature of Jesus, or its degree, divided drastically Christians and were finally settled by bishops on majority voting, under pressure from Constantine to reach an agreement. > > If Constantine, as roman emperor, was considered divine, how could Jesus be less than him? Of course, we can't find any evidence on the Gospels for that (not even on John's Gospel), but they couldn't care less for this detail. > > Most Christian churches defend the Trinity, that the father, the son (Jesus) and the holy ghost are not exactly one and the same, but are part of god. But these churches argue that this is perfectly compatible with a monotheism. > > Basically, Jesus on the Olive Garden and on the Cross wasn't exactly talking with him self, but something similar. > > Ancient Greeks could argue that they also had a father, Uranus/Cronus/Zeus, and their sons and parents, all part of a divine family. That the difference was of grade, and not nature, and so that they too were basically monotheists in this flexible sense, because they too had a supreme god, he just had a bigger family. > > But what all these contradictions, but also influences and slow evolution, point out is that gods are a human creation. > > With all these different gods and interpretations, are all the believers on different religions or sects lying or mistaken, but you? > > > 2) There are fundamental issues about which we still don't know enough, but ignorance isn't reason to believe in any god. > > We still don't know what is the ultimate origin of the source of the "physical stuff" that composes the Universe, the quantum fields that created all matter (see https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1221052.msg14388816#msg14388816 on the theory of a Universe from nothing), or even the exact mechanism that created life from matter, but our ancestors also said that the gods were the creators of thunders and lightening. > > Actually, none of the main religions says what was his god's origin. > > > 3) Religious books are full of immoral rules. > > Some of those are so hideous that they can't seriously be considered the word of a god. > > For instance, "for I, the LORD your God, am a jealous God, >punishing the children for the sin of the parents to the third and >fourth generation of those who hate me". Exodus, 20.5. > > This horrible statement is part of the Ten Commandments! And it's stated also in Exodus 34:7; Deuteronomy 5:9; Numbers 14:18. > > But we can find even more heinous moral rules: "A bastard shall >not enter into the congregation of the LORD; even to his tenth >generation shall he not enter into the congregation of the LORD." >Deuteronomy 23:2. > > The examples are innumerable: acceptance of genocide/extermination of women and children (Joshua 6:21; Judges 21:10; Numbers 31:7-18), killing of babies (Isaiah 13:16), massive rape (Numbers 31:18; Deuteronomy 20:10-14), slavery (Leviticus 25:44-46), death penalty for the most banal deeds, including sexual acts between consenting adults, forced marriage (Judges 21:21-23), women sacrifice or abuse (Judges 11:29-40 isn't clear), cruel punishments [cannibalism of children (Leviticus 26:29), burning alive (Joshua 7:15), stoning, etc.], sexual discrimination (Genesis 3:16; Leviticus 27:3-7), etc.. > > I confirmed all of these quotes. I didn't copied the actual text to avoid increasing this post too much, but I might do that. Even if sometimes there are divergences on translation or interpretation, I tried to use clear examples. See for more http://www.evilbible.com; https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1367154.0. > > But a decisive one is enough to dismiss the Bible as a "sacred" source of moral precepts. >

  • Austin Smith

    Communism is advocated by marxism as the end goal which is same as an anarchidm but marxists believe there needs to be a middle stage which never worked out as anarchists said. So there might be some confusion of words going on. From anarchy works https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/peter-gelderloos-anarchy-works#toc8 Everybody has a sense of self-interest, and the capability to act in a selfish way at other people’s expense. But everyone also has a sense of the needs of those around them, and we are all capable of generous and selfless actions. Human survival depends on generosity. The next time someone tells you a communal, anarchistic society could not work because people are naturally selfish, tell him he should withhold food from his children pending payment, do nothing to help his parents have a dignified retirement, never donate to charities, and never help his neighbors or be kind to strangers unless he receives compensation. Even after hundreds of years of being suppressed, sharing and generosity remain vital to human existence. The United States may be, on a structural level, the most selfish nation in the world — it is the richest of “developed” countries, but has among the lowest life expectancies because the political culture would sooner let poor people die than give them healthcare and welfare. But even in the US it’s easy to find institutional examples of sharing that form an important part of the society. Libraries offer an interconnected network of millions of free books. PTA potlucks and neighborhood barbecues bring people together to share food and enjoy each other’s company. Currency-based economies have only existed a few thousand years, and capitalism has only been around a few hundred years. The latter has proven to work quite miserably, leading to the greatest inequalities of wealth, the largest mass starvations, and the worst distribution systems in world history — though hats off, it’s produced a lot of wonderful gadgets. It might surprise people to learn how common other types of economies have been in earlier times, and how much they differed from capitalism. One economy developed over and over by humans on every continent has been the gift economy. In this system, if people have more than they need of anything, they give it away. They don’t assign value, they don’t count debts. Everything you don’t use personally can be given as a gift to someone else, and by giving more gifts you inspire more generosity and strengthen the friendships that keep you swimming in gifts too. Many gift economies lasted for thousands of years, and proved much more effective at enabling all of the participants to meet their needs. Capitalism may have drastically increased productivity, but to what end? On one side of your typical capitalist city someone is starving to death while on the other side someone is eating caviar. What these anthropologists may not have known is that gift economies have never been totally suppressed in the West; in fact they surfaced frequently within rebellious movements. Anarchists in the US today also exemplify the desire for relationships based on generosity and the guarantee that everyone’s needs will be met. In a number of towns and cities, anarchists hold Really Really Free Markets — essentially, flea markets without prices. People bring goods they have made or things they don’t need anymore and give them away for free to passersby or other participants. Or, they share useful skills with one another. In one free market in North Carolina, every month: two hundred or more people from all walks of life gather at the commons in the center of our town. They bring everything from jewelry to firewood to give away, and take whatever they want. There are booths offering bicycle repair, hairstyling, even tarot readings. People leave with full-size bed frames and old computers; if they don’t have a vehicle to transport them, volunteer drivers are available. No money changes hands, no one haggles over the comparative worth of items or services, nobody is ashamed about being in need. Contrary to government ordinances, no fee is paid for the use of this public space, nor is anyone “in charge.” Sometimes a marching band appears; sometimes a puppetry troupe performs, or people line up to take a swing at a piñata. Games and conversations take place around the periphery, and everyone has a plate of warm food and a bag of free groceries. Banners hang from branches and rafters proclaiming “FOR THE COMMONS, NOT LANDLORDS OR BUREAUCRACY” and “NI JEFES, NI FRONTERAS” and a king-size blanket is spread with radical reading material, but these aren’t essential to the event — this is a social institution, not a demonstration. Thanks to our monthly ‘Free Markets, everyone in our town has a working reference point for anarchist economics. Life is a little easier for those of us with low or no income, and relationships develop in a space in which social class and financial means are at least temporarily irrelevant. The traditional society of the Semai, in Malaya, is based on gift-giving rather than bartering. We could not find any accounts of their society recorded by the Semai themselves, but they explained how it worked to Robert Dentan, a Western anthropologist who lived with them for a time. Dentan writes that the “system by which the Semai distribute food and services is one of the most significant ways in which members of a community are knit together... Semai economic exchanges are more like Christmas exchanges than like commercial exchanges." It was considered “punan,” or taboo, for members of Semai society to calculate the value of gifts given or received. Other commonly held rules of etiquette included the duty to share whatever they had that they did not immediately need, and the duty to share with guests and anyone who asked. It was punan not to share or to refuse a request, but also to ask for more than someone could give. Many other societies have also distributed and exchanged surpluses as gifts. Aside from the social cohesion and joy that is gained from sharing with your community without greedily keeping accounts, a gift economy can also be justified in terms of personal interests. Often, a person cannot consume what they produce all by themselves. The meat from a day’s hunt will go bad before you can eat it all. A tool, like a saw, will lay unused most of the time if it is the property of a single person. It makes more sense to give away most of the meat or share your saw with your neighbors, because you are ensuring that in the future they will give extra food to you and share their tools with you — thus ensuring that you have access to more food and a wider range of tools, and you and your neighbors become richer without having to exploit anybody. From what we know, however, members of gift economies would probably not justify their actions with arguments of calculated self-interest, but with moral reasoning, explaining sharing as the right thing to do. After all, an economic surplus is the result of a certain way of looking at the world: it is a social choice and not a material certainty. Societies must choose, over time, to work more than they need to, to quantify value, or to only consume the minimum required for their survival and to surrender all the rest of their produce to a common storehouse controlled by a class of leaders. Even if a hunting party or a group of gatherers gets lucky and brings home a huge amount of food, there is no surplus if they consider it normal to share it with everyone else, glut themselves with a big feast, or invite a neighboring community to party until all the food is eaten. It’s certainly more fun that way than measuring out pounds of food and calculating what percentage we earned. As for loafers, even if people do not calculate the value of gifts and keep a balance sheet, they will notice if someone consistently refuses to share or contribute to the group, violating the customs of the society and the sense of mutual aid. Gradually, such people will damage their relationships, and miss out on some of the nicer benefits of living in a society. It seems that in all known gift economies, even the laziest of people were never refused food — in stark contrast to capitalism — but feeding a few loafers is an insignificant drain on a society’s resources, especially when compared to pampering the voracious elite of our society. And losing this tiny amount of resources is far preferable to losing our compassion and letting people starve to death. In more extreme cases, if members of such a society were more aggressively parasitic, attempting to monopolize resources or force other people to work for them — in other words, acting like capitalists — they could be ostracized and even expelled from the society. Some stateless societies have chiefs who play ritual roles, often related to giving gifts and spreading resources. In fact, the term “chief” can be deceptive because there have been so many different human societies that have had what the West classifies as “chiefs,” and in each society the role entailed something a little different. In many societies chiefs held no coercive power: their responsibility was to mediate disputes or conduct rituals, and they were expected to be more generous than anyone else. Ultimately they worked harder and had less personal wealth than others. One study found that a common reason for the people to depose or expel a chief was if the chief was not considered generous enough.

  • Gilbert Muller

    > > > This is a big post. If you are lazy, read at least the 13 subtitles. Those might make you read the rest. > > This is a text in progress. If you post a comment with another strong point, I might add it with credits to you, if you are the original author or alternatively to him. > > We are a pattern of organization of a bunch of atoms that, by pure environmental circumstances and chance, gained conscience; it would be astonishing that, only because of this awareness, we were destined for a greater fate than the other common bunch of atoms. > > We are going to return to our natural state, our only real "permanent home", where we already spent almost an eternity (see https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1432165.msg17423455#msg17423455), before being born: nothingness. > > There is no use to invent a helping imaginary "friend" who will offer you immortality. > > It's absurd to ruin your life (a lucky but tiny oasis of awareness that exists between two almost infinite deserts of nothingness) by following absurd or immoral rules invented by primitive people of the Bronze Age which have no relation whatsoever with the happiness of other people. > > Face your destiny in the eyes and live proud for having no leach, but the one imposed by your fellow human beings organized as a society (supposedly) for the benefice of all. > > However, I don't have anything against a sincere believer. You are my fellow human being who share with me our finite condition. You just found a different (erroneous, from my perspective) way to deal with it. > > The arguments presented were written thinking on the three main monotheist religions and, especially, Christianism. But most of them apply also to all other religions. > > My goal isn't offending you, but just to induce you to question the roots and logic of your faith. > > I also don't really want to convince you to be an atheist, but just a skeptical or, at least, someone with doubts. > > There isn't anything more dangerous for you, and for others, than you being absolutely certain about something like your religious beliefs. > > Those absolute beliefs can change completely your philosophy, Ethics and life goals and not for the good. > > It's when religious people start being fanatics. They know the "truth", so, from my perspective, they are literally deadly wrong. > > It's when they are ready to start killing themselves or others for their beliefs or, at least, persecute people with different beliefs or without religious beliefs. > > As long as you have doubts, you can say you are still a religious person, but you will be a safer person for yourself and for others. > > In reality, you will live this life like if it was the only one you have (see point 11). You will give it more value and will be more tolerant with others. > > > > >1) God is a human creation. > > All the hundreds of religions/sects and their multiple absolute contradictions seem to be plenty evidence that all gods are human creations. > > The same conclusion can be based on the known influences of ancient myths and religions on the current main religions [the flood, the virgin birth, the resurrection after 3 days, Christmas day, Sunday (day of the Sun, the roman god Sol Invictus) as the holiday and not the Sabbath, etc.]. > > Gods are just one of the illusions mankind uses in order to be able to deal with the conscience of the inevitability of death. Humans created a god and an afterlife mainly (this also stimulate cooperation and obedience) because they feel anguish about dying. (Freud, Thoughts for the times on war and death, 1915, Part II) > > Even in the religions that claim to worship the same god, the contradictions are overwhelming. > > As you know, both Christians and Muslims say they worship the Torah's god, Yahweh. Islam says Jesus was an important prophet, but not the son of god. And Christians simple reject that Muhammad was a prophet. But the Qur'an says that its god is the god that sent Abraham, Moses and Jesus. > > But Yahweh initially was just a god in the middle of others. Most Jews, even during David times (about 1000 BC) and after, kept praying to other gods of the Canaanites (Semitic people comprising the Phoenicians, the Jews and some other peoples of the Levant). > > There is controversy, but Yahweh has been identified with EL, the supreme god of the Canaanites, that had one or two wives and an extensive number of sons (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/El_(deity)#Hebrew_Bible). Or, initially, with one of his sons: sometimes, Baal (the confusion was easy, because Baal means Lord; clearly, later, the Torah fights this identification, by ridiculing Baal), sometimes Hadad, sometimes a different son. > > In some of the Jewish holy books, we can still find several traces of this evolution, with references to a council of the gods presided by EL/Yahweh (Psalm 82:1 and 6; 1 Kings 22:19) or to different gods (Deuteronomy 32:8–9) (see, a summary in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Divine_Council#Hebrew). > > Well, the Greeks were influenced by the Phoenicians and copied their gods, with different names. El was Uranus, the father of all gods (or sometimes Cronus, since some mythology says El was not the original god, but rather Elioun), that was deposed by his son, Cronus. Cronus was deposed by Zeus. The Romans used the same Gods (Caelus as Uranus; Saturn as Cronus and Jupiter as Zeus). > > So, are the believers on the three main religions praying to Uranus (Caelus) or even to Cronus (Saturn)? > > But, even if they are considered the same god, just compare the vengeful and jealous god of the Torah with the loving and forgiven god invented by Jesus. > > The contradictions are so big between them that some scholars (like Marcion of Sinope: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcionism) and christian sects (like the Gnostics: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gnosticism#Dualism_and_monism) even defended that Yahweh, the Torah's god, was a different god or even the devil. > > Some of the most fracturing religious issues, like the so-called divine nature of Jesus, or its degree, divided drastically Christians and were finally settled by bishops on majority voting, under pressure from Constantine to reach an agreement. > > If Constantine, as roman emperor, was considered divine, how could Jesus be less than him? Of course, we can't find any evidence on the Gospels for that (not even on John's Gospel), but they couldn't care less for this detail. > > Most Christian churches defend the Trinity, that the father, the son (Jesus) and the holy ghost are not exactly one and the same, but are part of god. But these churches argue that this is perfectly compatible with a monotheism. > > Basically, Jesus on the Olive Garden and on the Cross wasn't exactly talking with him self, but something similar. > > Ancient Greeks could argue that they also had a father, Uranus/Cronus/Zeus, and their sons and parents, all part of a divine family. That the difference was of grade, and not nature, and so that they too were basically monotheists in this flexible sense, because they too had a supreme god, he just had a bigger family. > > But what all these contradictions, but also influences and slow evolution, point out is that gods are a human creation. > > With all these different gods and interpretations, are all the believers on different religions or sects lying or mistaken, but you? > > > 2) There are fundamental issues about which we still don't know enough, but ignorance isn't reason to believe in any god. > > We still don't know what is the ultimate origin of the source of the "physical stuff" that composes the Universe, the quantum fields that created all matter (see https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1221052.msg14388816#msg14388816 on the theory of a Universe from nothing), or even the exact mechanism that created life from matter, but our ancestors also said that the gods were the creators of thunders and lightening. > > Actually, none of the main religions says what was his god's origin. > > > 3) Religious books are full of immoral rules. > > Some of those are so hideous that they can't seriously be considered the word of a god. > > For instance, "for I, the LORD your God, am a jealous God, >punishing the children for the sin of the parents to the third and >fourth generation of those who hate me". Exodus, 20.5. > > This horrible statement is part of the Ten Commandments! And it's stated also in Exodus 34:7; Deuteronomy 5:9; Numbers 14:18. > > But we can find even more heinous moral rules: "A bastard shall >not enter into the congregation of the LORD; even to his tenth >generation shall he not enter into the congregation of the LORD." >Deuteronomy 23:2. > > The examples are innumerable: acceptance of genocide/extermination of women and children (Joshua 6:21; Judges 21:10; Numbers 31:7-18), killing of babies (Isaiah 13:16), massive rape (Numbers 31:18; Deuteronomy 20:10-14), slavery (Leviticus 25:44-46), death penalty for the most banal deeds, including sexual acts between consenting adults, forced marriage (Judges 21:21-23), women sacrifice or abuse (Judges 11:29-40 isn't clear), cruel punishments [cannibalism of children (Leviticus 26:29), burning alive (Joshua 7:15), stoning, etc.], sexual discrimination (Genesis 3:16; Leviticus 27:3-7), etc.. > > I confirmed all of these quotes. I didn't copied the actual text to avoid increasing this post too much, but I might do that. Even if sometimes there are divergences on translation or interpretation, I tried to use clear examples. See for more http://www.evilbible.com; https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1367154.0. > > But a decisive one is enough to dismiss the Bible as a "sacred" source of moral precepts. >

  • Eudora Wehner

    **Part I** One of the important details to understand the condition and release of the inmates held in Spandau were not like other figures incarcerated for Nazi crimes. The emerging Cold War and collapse of Allied unity led what had started as an international process into a national one; the Nuremberg International Military Tribunals (IMT) were followed up by each of the occupying power conducting their own tribunals, often termed National Military Tribunals (NMT- and this is simplifying the process quite a bit, justice varied by zone). The NMT convicted defendants thus ended up as the responsibility of the Allied occupying power, which in turn meant that later amnesties became a bilateral between the respective Allied High Commissioner and the FRG government. US HICOG chief General John McCloy set the tone for the later "amnesty fever" after considerable pressure from the Adenauer government and pardoned some 29 convicted war criminals from Landsberg in 1951. IMT defendants were a different matter as a four-power consensus was needed to alter the IMT sentence for early release or parole. Such a consensus was not forthcoming in Cold War milieu outside of cases of extreme ill-health. Thus Spandau's prisoners tended to serve their full terms. Hess himself was the ultimate example of how the Cold War made Spandau an anomaly for German war criminals. A unique constellation of factors led to this somewhat absurd situation where a large prison complex held only one inmate. The Soviets were the main reason why any move for Hess's or his fellow inmates parole was vetoed. Keeping Spandua open meant that the Soviets could keep their foothold in West Berlin. Once Spandau had closed, then the facility would revert back to the control of West Berlin government. The four powers had initially anticipated a much larger roster of inmates when the four powers agreed to the collective running of Spandau. but the breakdown in Allied unity meant that it had only an anemic number of prisoners. Thus, paroles meant that the site would become irrelevant. Keeping Spandau open had value to the Soviets both for intelligence purposes as well as symbolic importance. In the former, Spandau was a window into West Berlin, and thus was an asset. But arguably more important than its intelligence value, keeping Spandau's inmates was a way to score a moral victory over the West. Unlike the FRG, the GDR did not have an equivalent amnesty-fever and many former Nazis did not creep back into public positions of authority in the SED state like Hans Globke or Hanns Martin Schleyer did in the FRG. Both the Soviets and the GDR made frequent mention of how Western officials like McCloy were more than willing to forget Nazi war crimes if their perpetrators proved useful. Keeping Spandau open due to a very public Soviet intransigence was a way to transform this talking point into concrete reality. While various Westerners advocated for pardons, the Eastern bloc made sure it publicly stood for Nazi criminals receiving their just deserts. The GDR press's treatment of Karl Dönitz exemplified how the GDR politicized the issue of parole and release. Although there was little commentary in the GDR press on the Admiral after his sentencing, Dönitz swiftly became the subject of hand-wringing in the press as soon as he had served his term. Three days after his 1 October 1956 release, the GDR's main newspapers were carrying stories how the war criminal was now receiving a pension from Bonn. One year later, the 17 August edition of *Berliner Zeitung* had a front-page article, "Italy Outraged over the Insolence of Hitler's Generals," in which Dönitz along with other convicted and pardoned war criminals sent a telegram to the Italian government pleading for clemency for Walter Reder, who was a Waffen-SS commander responsible for a massacre of Italian civilians in September 1944 . The 5 February 1963 issue of *BZ* had a front-page commentary on how Dönitz lectured a gymnasium in Schleswig-Holstein on the Second World War. As *BZ* tartly noted: >On the lesson plan of the 300 pupils was history: the Second World War. For this subject, the director of the gymnasium in Geesthacht facilitated the reappearance as an expert and a guest teacher, Mr. Karl Dönitz. >No. This was not a mistake. In fact, it was the successor of the greatest warlord of all times, Adolf Hitler, who appointed him, the Grand Admiral of the Fascist Kriegsmarine, five minutes after noon on May 2, 1945 to form a new Reich government in Schleswig-Holstein. Later he was arrested and judged a war criminal. The *BZ* article further asserts that a convicted war criminal lecturing FRG children was not an anomaly for the West, but was a reflection of Bonn's indifference to the Nazi past and moves towards revanchism. "Thus Dönitz can be sure to be in harmony with other Bonn prominents," *BZ* notes,"which makes one's head throb with anger as with other cases of 'coping with the past.'" Nor did the warming of inter-German relations during the period of detente lead to a lessening of the invective against Dönitz and his warm reception in quarters of the FRG government. The 17 September 1976 issue of *Neues Deutschland* had a small article "Bundeswehr Officers honor Hitler's Successor Dönitz," reporting that the Admiral was received warmly by a number of Bundesmarine officers in uniform and this was a sign that many former Nazis were mingling with the newer generation of Bundeswehr officers through organizations like the reestablished *Deutscher Marinebund *(German Navy League). The GDR press made passing reference to Dönitz after his death noting that the pomp and ceremony of his funeral not only underscored the hypocrisy of Bonn, but that neo-Nazis now needed new blood. Yet the damage wrought by men Dönitz was done, since "the Bundeswehr maintains the old brown traditions," as 31 January 1981 issue of *BZ* asserted. This treatment of Dönitz was emblematic of how the Eastern politicized and exploited the issue of the Spandau prisoners. A 26 November 1965 *Neue Zeit* article “The Plague has Escaped: The ‘Führer’ of the ‘Fourth Reich’ Has Drawn No Lessons from the Nuremberg Process” noted that Dönitz had used his release to advocate for the clemency of the remaining Spandau inmates Speer, Schirach, and Hess. The article further reported that the remaining inmates were the subject of a PR campaign by the European right, noting that the right-wing FRG magazine *Nation Europa* had claimed in 1954 that Hess’s freedom was a moral imperative for all of Europe. A 9 December 1965 *BZ* piece sarcastically entitled “The Spirit of Nazism under the Christmas Tree” noted the trend of *Nation Europa* publishing books written by apologists and defenders of Nazi war criminals, including Ilse Hess’s * Gefangener des Friedens* (*Prisoner of Peace*). On 31 December 1968, *BZ* drew a connection between Bonn’s CDU-CSU faction pushing for an end to the extension of the statute of limitations for prosecuting Nazi crimes and clemency for Spandau’s remaining prisoner. The article noted that the state prosecutor Max Güde, who was opposed to the extension (and in reality his position was more complicated), had earlier in the spring signed a clemency appeal for Hess. *BZ* noted that such a position was hypocritical since Güde shortly after signing the clemency called for a ban of the Socialist German Student Union. *Pravda* likewise drew a connection between clemency and the current actions and policies of the West. Ina January 1970 issue answering the calls for clemency, the Soviet propaganda organ noted that: >Imperialism is always merciful against criminals, whether they be fascists or racists, because the its politics of international piracy and aggression, neocolonialism and racial intolerance is itself criminal. …The answer to [the question of clemency] has already been given in the burning of the South Vietnamese village of Son My- the site of a bloody butcher’s bill by American invaders against its peaceful inhabitants. The answer to this question is also in the ruins of many an Arab settlement bombed by Israeli pilots and destroyed by rockets. The answer is also found in the speeches and slogans publicly stated at the meetings of West German revanchists and neo-Nazis. From the Soviet’s public position, so long as the West pursued policies it portrayed as little different from fascism, then there was no room for clemency. While the Soviet veto was a major factor in preventing Hess’s parole, there were other factors at play that ensured that the other three powers did not press for Hess’s release with much vigor. Unlike military men like Raeder or Dönitz, Hess lacked a large and organized network of pressure groups in the FRG to consistently advocate for his release. Military veterans groups were one of the main organizers of the FRG’s amnesty fever for NMT defendants and as the GDR’s press would often point out, were also advocates for war criminals serving terms in Western European countries like Italy. Hess’s constituency was much more centered on his son, Wolf Rüdiger. Hess’s son was able to gain some prominent Western Europeans to his cause such as the British historian A. J. P. Taylor, but this was a much looser network than veterans lobbies or the conservative-Christian circles affiliated with Baldur von Schirach. As Norman Goda noted in his study of the Spandau prisoners, most of Hess’s advocates already had axes to grind against the system and saw their partisanship as furthering their cause. Taylor, for example, was a notorious gadfly and by arguing Hess had done nothing wrong, he furthered his own thesis that the Nuremberg trials were a flawed process that distorted the historical record about the outbreak of the war.

  • Cora Hills

    > I've always leaned toward agnostic because the incentive of heaven always seemed like weird to me. The act of doing what I think is good because I'm hoping to be rewarded (or avoiding punishment) always felt too disingenuous for me, like a celestial mercenary. Right? I also thought it was such a ridiculous reason for being good and would tease my good friend (who became a Catholic Priest, as it happens) about my plan to convert to Catholicism in the final moments of my life in order to gain admittance to heaven. I've changed my mind about all that, thought. I've been meaning to formalize my thoughts around all this for some time so I might as well take the opportunity to do that now. You don't have to read the whole thing if you don't want to, but if you do I'd be interested to hear your thoughts on it. I now fear I've been arguing against a straw man version of religion my whole life – like teasing a child for believing in Santa. If Santa doesn't actually exist, or any of the supernatural things in religious stories for that matter, it doesn't actually make them any less valid. I had been raised to trust only empirical evidence; great for discovering truths about the physical world, but terrible for figuring out just how one ought to act in the world. Kids continue to be good after discovering Santa isn't real because by then they have more sophisticated reasons for being a good person. Like all religions, the Santa story is a shortcut to truth: be good, good things happen. If you approach religion metaphorically, you can analyze its value without getting bogged down by its lack of empirical evidence. This is no different than appreciating the value of any work of art or literature. Religion is the study of how and why humans should live their lives. What is truly fascinating is how well the stories told in religion match up with the story of human evolution. Religion describes the human condition. Evolution describes the conditions by which we became human. According to Darwin, the ability to successfully procreate is the behavior by which a species is ultimately judged. Survival of the species is the ultimate reward, and extinction the ultimate punishment. It is no wonder that so much of the focus in Christianity and other religions is on the sanctity of life, marriage, and procreation. These values are essential for our continued survival. Take the story of creation, for example. Adam lives harmoniously in the Garden of Eden. God's one rule for Adam is to not eat from the Tree of Knowledge or he will "certainly die". Curious, that – is knowledge not one of our most valued attributes? Perhaps this represents the period just before we became self-aware; a period when – like all animals – we were blissfully unaware of our own mortality. It isn’t death that God is warning Adam about, but the awareness of death. God then gives Adam a companion in the form of Eve. She is made from Adam's body – “that is why a man leaves his father and mother and is united to his wife, and they become one flesh". This is a direct reference to consummation and reproduction and an astonishingly accurate representation of the biology of procreation. That a story so old could be so absurdly in line with our modern understanding of evolution and biology is nothing short of amazing. One of the most striking aspects of the Creation Story is the amount of humor it contains. Were it an objective record of fact what would be the purpose of humor? Scientific and historical records are devoid of humor because they measured purely by their empirical value. Art and literature, on the other hand, derive their value from popularity and longevity. The best works evoke the full range of human emotion and illuminate truths that we all agree on but cannot scientifically prove. The snake, recognizing the nuance in God’s warning to Adam not to eat the forbidden fruit, assures Eve that she and Adam won’t die if they eat it and in fact will gain greater sight and be as God Himself, knowing good and evil. Her curiosity and desire for knowledge and material wealth gets the better of her and she eats the fruit. This is such a key aspect of the story, because of how well it lines up with our evolutionary history. It's perfect that it's a snake that offers it to her, too, because we share a long and contentious evolutionary past with snakes. In fact, it has been shown that strong stereoscopic eyesight in primates is very highly correlated with the presence of snakes in a given environment. The snake literally gave us our "vision”. It’s the first temptation of man and the original sin. To this day we strive to be more like God, yet the more knowledge we gain the greater the responsibility we bear. Why does Adam cover himself upon eating the forbidden fruit? Our evolutionary arms race with the environment led to our self-awareness. As all men can attest to, there is nothing in the universe that will make you feel more self-conscious than women. Women are the selecting mechanisms in human evolution. They are the gatekeepers to man’s survival. They are nature. Because female humans, like Eve, selected mates based on intelligence, our brains exploded in size and sophisitcation over a relatively short period of time. This caused women to give birth much earlier in the gestation process, in turn requiring them to spend more and more of their time caring for their infants. God says to Eve, "I will make your pains in childbearing very severe; with painful labor you will give birth to children. Your desire will be for your husband, and he will rule over you.” This isn’t a misogynist threat, it’s an evolutionary reality. Because of this increased burden, women needed to rely on men to provide for her and her children to a much greater degree. Humans became more stationary and less nomadic. Eve "ate from the Tree of Knowledge" by selecting increasingly intelligent mates, and Adam was a willing accomplice because, well, men want sex. Therefore, he must leave the Garden with Eve in order to take care of her for all of eternity. God says of Adam: "The man has now become like one of us, knowing good and evil. He must not be allowed to reach out his hand and take also from the tree of life and eat, and live forever." Self-awareness is our burden. Most animals act purely on instinct and don't think about the nature of their being. They lack the capacity to understanding their own suffering or recognizing the fleetingness of pleasure, and although they do not know that they will die some day, they do not know they won't live forever. While all other animals tend to live perfectly in sync with their environments and the world at large, we seem to live apart from it and out of alignment with it. We can dominate nature and bend her to our will, but we must also contend with the ultimate pointlessness of doing so. Suffering is only bearable when it's justified in some way. Pointless suffering is hell. It seems our greatest threat is no longer the environment, but our awareness of our existence and the ever present threat of Nihilism. Nihilism is the path to hell. In addition to physical tool use, we gained the ability to pass collective knowledge down from generation to generation. Art, dance, song, drama, literature, philosophy, and religion are the tools we have employed to face the challenge of existential crisis. This is completely unique to homo-sapiens and an incredible result of our large brains. The ideas that were most likely to be passed down were the ones that resonated most with the fittest members of our species. Stories that appealed to less fit humans faded out of existence because they had no children onto which to pass their favorite stories. In order for wisdom to pass down from generation to generation through the low-bandwidth of art, dance, song, and story, it was necessary to pack as much important information into each story as possible; that is, the information agreed upon as “most true” as it pertained to lessons about how to continue surviving. This likely didn't happen consciously, but as a result of humans naturally being more interested in truth than in falsehoods, and thus more likely to remember the true aspects of a given story and forget the false (boring) aspects to pass to the next generation. Do this over a long enough period of time and the stories that endure are likely to be packed diamond tight with valuable information, like the the story of Creation is. It’s important to pause for a moment and analyze the word “truth”. From a rational, scientific perspective, truth is measured empirically using the scientific method. From a traditional, metaphysical perspective, truth is measured by the degree to which it appeals to humanity. You prove why you like the books or movies you do; you just do. They can seem more real to you than the cold, dry facts you read about in science text books, despite their lack of empirical evidence. This all worked relatively well in terms of the overall outlook for our species, but something very critical happened in the last 500 years that seriously disrupted the value of religion to the species, and that is of course The Enlightenment. It is as though we once again ate from the Tree of Knowledge when we discovered the scientific method. It could be argued that this obsession for technological progress and scientific discovery was driven largely by the female desire for comfort, safety, and stability. The ultimate goal of science is to eliminate disease, extend our lifespans indefinitely, and eradicate all human suffering by providing an abundance of wealth to all of humanity. Like the alchemists of the past, we seek the fabled Philosopher’s Stone. Because those goals seem so well aligned with our survival, we very quickly started to abandon religion and philosophy as the primary tools we rely upon to seek truth.

  • Dario Rippin

    https://www.politicalislam.com/islam-slavery-and-rape/ Islam, Slavery and Rape By Jamie Glazov FrontPageMagazine.com | Friday, November 23, 2007 Frontpage Interview’s guest today is Bill Warner, the director of the Center for the Study of Political Islam (CSPI) and spokesman for politicalislam.com. CSPI’s goal is to teach the doctrine of political Islam through its books and it has produced an eleven book series on political Islam. Mr. Warner did not write the CSPI series, but he acts as the agent for a group of scholars who are the authors. The Center’s latest book is The Submission of Women and Slaves, Islamic Duality. FP: Bill Warner, welcome back to Frontpage Magazine. This is the second part in our two-part series with you on the Center’s most recent book. In the first part we discussed Islam and its doctrine on the submission of women. In this second and final part we will discuss the matter of slavery. Welcome to Frontpage Interview. Warner: It is a pleasure to work with Frontpage. FP: So tell us in general where Islam stands on slavery. Warner: Islam’s stand on slavery is based on its political principles of submission and duality. The principle of submission could not be clearer. By definition a slave is the most submissive of all people. You become a slave only when you have no more choices. A slave has completely submitted to a master. The principle of duality is shown by the fact that Islam does not enslave Muslims, only kafirs (non-Muslims). Since only kafirs are enslaved, it assures that more of the world submits to Islam. Islamic slavery is based on the Trilogy of the Koran, the Sira (Mohammed’s life) and the Hadith (the Traditions of Mohammed). All three texts say that slavery is permitted, ethical, desirable and a virtue. There is not one single negative word about slavery. Slavery is seen as a process that brings kafirs to Islam. It is a virtue to free slaves, but Mohammed only freed slaves who submitted to Islam. If the kafir slave does not submit, then their children will. So given enough time, slaves convert to Islam. That is one of the reasons that Islam sees slavery as a positive. Of course, there is another reason that Islam sees slavery as being so “good” and that is the money. Mohammed and the other jihadists made a fortune out of enslaving kafirs. Mohammed used the money for more jihad. So slavery financed the spread of Islam and jihad from the beginning. FP: What were the ingredients of Mohammed’s own life in terms of slavery? Warner: Mohammed is the perfect pattern for all humanity and his life was saturated in slavery. When his mother died, it was a freed slave who nursed him. His first wife owned slaves. One of his first converts was a slave. His closest friend, Abu Bakr, traded one of his black kafir slaves for a Muslim who was enslaved by a kafir. But all of this was small change compared to his envolvement with slavery once he turned to jihad. In his first major battle at Badr, he stood by and prayed as his henchmen beat and tortured captured slaves to get information about the enemy kafirs. Slaves made Mohammed’s pulpit. Slaves mended his cloths, cooked his food, and did every thing that a slave does for the master. He gave away slaves as gifts and received them as gifts. He went to war to kill the males so that the remaining people would surrender to be sold as slaves. Mohammed sold slaves on both the retail and wholesale markets. He offered captured slaves their freedom if they would first agree that he was the prophet of Allah. A kafir slave then became a slave of Allah, because all Muslims are slaves of Allah. For a slave, the religion of Mohammed started and ended with slavery. FP: Can you talk a bit about Islam and sexual slavery? Warner: All morality in Islam is patterned after the example of Mohammed. Everything that he did and said defines what is permitted or “good”. Mohammed repeatedly sanctioned forced sex (rape) with kafir females after they were captured. The Hadith clearly reports that he got first choice of the women. In one case, he repeatedly demanded one particular woman for himself and swapped two other kafir slave women for his choice. So if Mohammed was involved in the rape of kafirs, then rape is a virtue, not a sin or error. When Mohammed destroyed the B. Qurayza tribe, all of the adult male Jews were beheaded, so that no husbands were left. Mohammed then took the children and gave them to Muslims to raise as Muslims and he sold off the Jewish women as slaves. We know from another story that the women were divided into sex slaves and domestic slaves. In one scene, a jihadist is trying to obtain a high ransom for a woman and he is told that her breasts are flat and her mouth is cold, so her value was less. In short, she was only good for work around the house, not in the bedroom. The Hadith tells of another story where the Muslims used coitus interruptus to avoid impregnating the kafir sex slaves. The reason was purely for business. If the kafir sex slave was pregnant, then she was worth less money. Islamic doctrine says that kafir women should not be used for prostitutes, only for the pleasure of the master. When Mohammed attacked the Jews at Khaybar, many moral precedents were set. Sexual slavery received an entire set of rules. Muslims were not to rape pregnant or menstruating women until they had delivered the child or finished their periods. At Khaybar, Mohammed’s god Allah, announced that even married women were fair game for rape. Mohammed only killed some of the Jews at Khaybar. The male and female survivors were needed to work the land as dhimmis. (The original dhimmis were semi-slaves with no civil rights. Today, dhimmis are ignorant kafirs who apologize for Islam.) Since Islam needed the men to work, husbands were left alive. That was the reason that the Koran said that in this case, even with the husbands looking on, it was good to rape the women. Sexual slavery was not only fun and profitable for the Muslim men, but rape was a powerful tactic of war, then and today. The women are forced into submission to Muslim men and the husbands are humiliated. Humiliated men are weakened men, so more kafirs were less able to resist Islam. For some time Mohammed’s favorite sex partner was a Christian slave from Egypt named Mary. One of Mohammed’s wives caught him in some state of intimacy with Mary in the wife’s bedroom and raised hell. Mohammed promised to not do it again and moved Mary to her own apartment in Medina. Mohammed had received Mary and her sister as gifts. He gave her sister away to a Muslim poet. He was used to giving away sex slaves. He gave several of his top lieutenants kafir sex slaves. Umar, who later became caliph, gave his sex slave to his son. [As an aside, when he was caliph, his son got drunk and Umar beat him to death.] FP: This institution of Islamic sexual slavery isn’t just a reality of the past is it? Warner: Everything that has been said up to now is not only history; it is Sunna (the example of the perfect pattern of action and morality found in Mohammed). So today we don’t have a beautiful blonde Christian girl on the block in Mecca, but we have continuous and ongoing rapes by Muslims in kafir cities. This goes on everywhere that Islam goes because it is Sunna. This is a continuous 1400-year history of jihad. In every detailed history that comes from the original documents from history, rape is a constant. You have to look in the original documents, since our historians refuse to report it in so-called history books. Rape is Sunna. Rape is not a sin. Rape is permitted and encouraged by Mohammed and the Koran. Islam is the only political system in the world that includes rules for rape and war. Rape is jihad. How good can it get? A Muslim gets to rape a kafir girl and get heaven credits. All jihad is a ticket to Paradise. The most disgusting aspect of the Islamic rape of kafirs is not the rapes, but the kafir response. Kafirs become dhimmis by ignoring the rapes. I challenge you to find one, even one, mention of Islamic rape in the history books. Islamic rape is more taboo than the N-word in the media. At least the N-word is acknowledged to exist. Even unicorns exist in media fantasy. But Islamic rape is forbidden to even exist as a fantasy. And to reach a fevered rant: our so-called “feminist” scholars are absolutely intellectually and morally bankrupt hypocrites. They are traitors to our culture and a shame and a disgrace. They remain silent in the face of heinous crimes against women. They are arch-dhimmis when they refuse to speak of the Sunna, history and current rapes of our daughters, mothers, and sisters. And our tax dollars support their evil in our public universities.

  • Mackenzie Pacocha

    https://www.politicalislam.com/islam-slavery-and-rape/ Islam, Slavery and Rape By Jamie Glazov FrontPageMagazine.com | Friday, November 23, 2007 Frontpage Interview’s guest today is Bill Warner, the director of the Center for the Study of Political Islam (CSPI) and spokesman for politicalislam.com. CSPI’s goal is to teach the doctrine of political Islam through its books and it has produced an eleven book series on political Islam. Mr. Warner did not write the CSPI series, but he acts as the agent for a group of scholars who are the authors. The Center’s latest book is The Submission of Women and Slaves, Islamic Duality. FP: Bill Warner, welcome back to Frontpage Magazine. This is the second part in our two-part series with you on the Center’s most recent book. In the first part we discussed Islam and its doctrine on the submission of women. In this second and final part we will discuss the matter of slavery. Welcome to Frontpage Interview. Warner: It is a pleasure to work with Frontpage. FP: So tell us in general where Islam stands on slavery. Warner: Islam’s stand on slavery is based on its political principles of submission and duality. The principle of submission could not be clearer. By definition a slave is the most submissive of all people. You become a slave only when you have no more choices. A slave has completely submitted to a master. The principle of duality is shown by the fact that Islam does not enslave Muslims, only kafirs (non-Muslims). Since only kafirs are enslaved, it assures that more of the world submits to Islam. Islamic slavery is based on the Trilogy of the Koran, the Sira (Mohammed’s life) and the Hadith (the Traditions of Mohammed). All three texts say that slavery is permitted, ethical, desirable and a virtue. There is not one single negative word about slavery. Slavery is seen as a process that brings kafirs to Islam. It is a virtue to free slaves, but Mohammed only freed slaves who submitted to Islam. If the kafir slave does not submit, then their children will. So given enough time, slaves convert to Islam. That is one of the reasons that Islam sees slavery as a positive. Of course, there is another reason that Islam sees slavery as being so “good” and that is the money. Mohammed and the other jihadists made a fortune out of enslaving kafirs. Mohammed used the money for more jihad. So slavery financed the spread of Islam and jihad from the beginning. FP: What were the ingredients of Mohammed’s own life in terms of slavery? Warner: Mohammed is the perfect pattern for all humanity and his life was saturated in slavery. When his mother died, it was a freed slave who nursed him. His first wife owned slaves. One of his first converts was a slave. His closest friend, Abu Bakr, traded one of his black kafir slaves for a Muslim who was enslaved by a kafir. But all of this was small change compared to his envolvement with slavery once he turned to jihad. In his first major battle at Badr, he stood by and prayed as his henchmen beat and tortured captured slaves to get information about the enemy kafirs. Slaves made Mohammed’s pulpit. Slaves mended his cloths, cooked his food, and did every thing that a slave does for the master. He gave away slaves as gifts and received them as gifts. He went to war to kill the males so that the remaining people would surrender to be sold as slaves. Mohammed sold slaves on both the retail and wholesale markets. He offered captured slaves their freedom if they would first agree that he was the prophet of Allah. A kafir slave then became a slave of Allah, because all Muslims are slaves of Allah. For a slave, the religion of Mohammed started and ended with slavery. FP: Can you talk a bit about Islam and sexual slavery? Warner: All morality in Islam is patterned after the example of Mohammed. Everything that he did and said defines what is permitted or “good”. Mohammed repeatedly sanctioned forced sex (rape) with kafir females after they were captured. The Hadith clearly reports that he got first choice of the women. In one case, he repeatedly demanded one particular woman for himself and swapped two other kafir slave women for his choice. So if Mohammed was involved in the rape of kafirs, then rape is a virtue, not a sin or error. When Mohammed destroyed the B. Qurayza tribe, all of the adult male Jews were beheaded, so that no husbands were left. Mohammed then took the children and gave them to Muslims to raise as Muslims and he sold off the Jewish women as slaves. We know from another story that the women were divided into sex slaves and domestic slaves. In one scene, a jihadist is trying to obtain a high ransom for a woman and he is told that her breasts are flat and her mouth is cold, so her value was less. In short, she was only good for work around the house, not in the bedroom. The Hadith tells of another story where the Muslims used coitus interruptus to avoid impregnating the kafir sex slaves. The reason was purely for business. If the kafir sex slave was pregnant, then she was worth less money. Islamic doctrine says that kafir women should not be used for prostitutes, only for the pleasure of the master. When Mohammed attacked the Jews at Khaybar, many moral precedents were set. Sexual slavery received an entire set of rules. Muslims were not to rape pregnant or menstruating women until they had delivered the child or finished their periods. At Khaybar, Mohammed’s god Allah, announced that even married women were fair game for rape. Mohammed only killed some of the Jews at Khaybar. The male and female survivors were needed to work the land as dhimmis. (The original dhimmis were semi-slaves with no civil rights. Today, dhimmis are ignorant kafirs who apologize for Islam.) Since Islam needed the men to work, husbands were left alive. That was the reason that the Koran said that in this case, even with the husbands looking on, it was good to rape the women. Sexual slavery was not only fun and profitable for the Muslim men, but rape was a powerful tactic of war, then and today. The women are forced into submission to Muslim men and the husbands are humiliated. Humiliated men are weakened men, so more kafirs were less able to resist Islam. For some time Mohammed’s favorite sex partner was a Christian slave from Egypt named Mary. One of Mohammed’s wives caught him in some state of intimacy with Mary in the wife’s bedroom and raised hell. Mohammed promised to not do it again and moved Mary to her own apartment in Medina. Mohammed had received Mary and her sister as gifts. He gave her sister away to a Muslim poet. He was used to giving away sex slaves. He gave several of his top lieutenants kafir sex slaves. Umar, who later became caliph, gave his sex slave to his son. [As an aside, when he was caliph, his son got drunk and Umar beat him to death.] FP: This institution of Islamic sexual slavery isn’t just a reality of the past is it? Warner: Everything that has been said up to now is not only history; it is Sunna (the example of the perfect pattern of action and morality found in Mohammed). So today we don’t have a beautiful blonde Christian girl on the block in Mecca, but we have continuous and ongoing rapes by Muslims in kafir cities. This goes on everywhere that Islam goes because it is Sunna. This is a continuous 1400-year history of jihad. In every detailed history that comes from the original documents from history, rape is a constant. You have to look in the original documents, since our historians refuse to report it in so-called history books. Rape is Sunna. Rape is not a sin. Rape is permitted and encouraged by Mohammed and the Koran. Islam is the only political system in the world that includes rules for rape and war. Rape is jihad. How good can it get? A Muslim gets to rape a kafir girl and get heaven credits. All jihad is a ticket to Paradise. The most disgusting aspect of the Islamic rape of kafirs is not the rapes, but the kafir response. Kafirs become dhimmis by ignoring the rapes. I challenge you to find one, even one, mention of Islamic rape in the history books. Islamic rape is more taboo than the N-word in the media. At least the N-word is acknowledged to exist. Even unicorns exist in media fantasy. But Islamic rape is forbidden to even exist as a fantasy. And to reach a fevered rant: our so-called “feminist” scholars are absolutely intellectually and morally bankrupt hypocrites. They are traitors to our culture and a shame and a disgrace. They remain silent in the face of heinous crimes against women. They are arch-dhimmis when they refuse to speak of the Sunna, history and current rapes of our daughters, mothers, and sisters. And our tax dollars support their evil in our public universities.

  • Norma Mills

    https://www.politicalislam.com/islam-slavery-and-rape/ Islam, Slavery and Rape By Jamie Glazov FrontPageMagazine.com | Friday, November 23, 2007 Frontpage Interview’s guest today is Bill Warner, the director of the Center for the Study of Political Islam (CSPI) and spokesman for politicalislam.com. CSPI’s goal is to teach the doctrine of political Islam through its books and it has produced an eleven book series on political Islam. Mr. Warner did not write the CSPI series, but he acts as the agent for a group of scholars who are the authors. The Center’s latest book is The Submission of Women and Slaves, Islamic Duality. FP: Bill Warner, welcome back to Frontpage Magazine. This is the second part in our two-part series with you on the Center’s most recent book. In the first part we discussed Islam and its doctrine on the submission of women. In this second and final part we will discuss the matter of slavery. Welcome to Frontpage Interview. Warner: It is a pleasure to work with Frontpage. FP: So tell us in general where Islam stands on slavery. Warner: Islam’s stand on slavery is based on its political principles of submission and duality. The principle of submission could not be clearer. By definition a slave is the most submissive of all people. You become a slave only when you have no more choices. A slave has completely submitted to a master. The principle of duality is shown by the fact that Islam does not enslave Muslims, only kafirs (non-Muslims). Since only kafirs are enslaved, it assures that more of the world submits to Islam. Islamic slavery is based on the Trilogy of the Koran, the Sira (Mohammed’s life) and the Hadith (the Traditions of Mohammed). All three texts say that slavery is permitted, ethical, desirable and a virtue. There is not one single negative word about slavery. Slavery is seen as a process that brings kafirs to Islam. It is a virtue to free slaves, but Mohammed only freed slaves who submitted to Islam. If the kafir slave does not submit, then their children will. So given enough time, slaves convert to Islam. That is one of the reasons that Islam sees slavery as a positive. Of course, there is another reason that Islam sees slavery as being so “good” and that is the money. Mohammed and the other jihadists made a fortune out of enslaving kafirs. Mohammed used the money for more jihad. So slavery financed the spread of Islam and jihad from the beginning. FP: What were the ingredients of Mohammed’s own life in terms of slavery? Warner: Mohammed is the perfect pattern for all humanity and his life was saturated in slavery. When his mother died, it was a freed slave who nursed him. His first wife owned slaves. One of his first converts was a slave. His closest friend, Abu Bakr, traded one of his black kafir slaves for a Muslim who was enslaved by a kafir. But all of this was small change compared to his envolvement with slavery once he turned to jihad. In his first major battle at Badr, he stood by and prayed as his henchmen beat and tortured captured slaves to get information about the enemy kafirs. Slaves made Mohammed’s pulpit. Slaves mended his cloths, cooked his food, and did every thing that a slave does for the master. He gave away slaves as gifts and received them as gifts. He went to war to kill the males so that the remaining people would surrender to be sold as slaves. Mohammed sold slaves on both the retail and wholesale markets. He offered captured slaves their freedom if they would first agree that he was the prophet of Allah. A kafir slave then became a slave of Allah, because all Muslims are slaves of Allah. For a slave, the religion of Mohammed started and ended with slavery. FP: Can you talk a bit about Islam and sexual slavery? Warner: All morality in Islam is patterned after the example of Mohammed. Everything that he did and said defines what is permitted or “good”. Mohammed repeatedly sanctioned forced sex (rape) with kafir females after they were captured. The Hadith clearly reports that he got first choice of the women. In one case, he repeatedly demanded one particular woman for himself and swapped two other kafir slave women for his choice. So if Mohammed was involved in the rape of kafirs, then rape is a virtue, not a sin or error. When Mohammed destroyed the B. Qurayza tribe, all of the adult male Jews were beheaded, so that no husbands were left. Mohammed then took the children and gave them to Muslims to raise as Muslims and he sold off the Jewish women as slaves. We know from another story that the women were divided into sex slaves and domestic slaves. In one scene, a jihadist is trying to obtain a high ransom for a woman and he is told that her breasts are flat and her mouth is cold, so her value was less. In short, she was only good for work around the house, not in the bedroom. The Hadith tells of another story where the Muslims used coitus interruptus to avoid impregnating the kafir sex slaves. The reason was purely for business. If the kafir sex slave was pregnant, then she was worth less money. Islamic doctrine says that kafir women should not be used for prostitutes, only for the pleasure of the master. When Mohammed attacked the Jews at Khaybar, many moral precedents were set. Sexual slavery received an entire set of rules. Muslims were not to rape pregnant or menstruating women until they had delivered the child or finished their periods. At Khaybar, Mohammed’s god Allah, announced that even married women were fair game for rape. Mohammed only killed some of the Jews at Khaybar. The male and female survivors were needed to work the land as dhimmis. (The original dhimmis were semi-slaves with no civil rights. Today, dhimmis are ignorant kafirs who apologize for Islam.) Since Islam needed the men to work, husbands were left alive. That was the reason that the Koran said that in this case, even with the husbands looking on, it was good to rape the women. Sexual slavery was not only fun and profitable for the Muslim men, but rape was a powerful tactic of war, then and today. The women are forced into submission to Muslim men and the husbands are humiliated. Humiliated men are weakened men, so more kafirs were less able to resist Islam. For some time Mohammed’s favorite sex partner was a Christian slave from Egypt named Mary. One of Mohammed’s wives caught him in some state of intimacy with Mary in the wife’s bedroom and raised hell. Mohammed promised to not do it again and moved Mary to her own apartment in Medina. Mohammed had received Mary and her sister as gifts. He gave her sister away to a Muslim poet. He was used to giving away sex slaves. He gave several of his top lieutenants kafir sex slaves. Umar, who later became caliph, gave his sex slave to his son. [As an aside, when he was caliph, his son got drunk and Umar beat him to death.] FP: This institution of Islamic sexual slavery isn’t just a reality of the past is it? Warner: Everything that has been said up to now is not only history; it is Sunna (the example of the perfect pattern of action and morality found in Mohammed). So today we don’t have a beautiful blonde Christian girl on the block in Mecca, but we have continuous and ongoing rapes by Muslims in kafir cities. This goes on everywhere that Islam goes because it is Sunna. This is a continuous 1400-year history of jihad. In every detailed history that comes from the original documents from history, rape is a constant. You have to look in the original documents, since our historians refuse to report it in so-called history books. Rape is Sunna. Rape is not a sin. Rape is permitted and encouraged by Mohammed and the Koran. Islam is the only political system in the world that includes rules for rape and war. Rape is jihad. How good can it get? A Muslim gets to rape a kafir girl and get heaven credits. All jihad is a ticket to Paradise. The most disgusting aspect of the Islamic rape of kafirs is not the rapes, but the kafir response. Kafirs become dhimmis by ignoring the rapes. I challenge you to find one, even one, mention of Islamic rape in the history books. Islamic rape is more taboo than the N-word in the media. At least the N-word is acknowledged to exist. Even unicorns exist in media fantasy. But Islamic rape is forbidden to even exist as a fantasy. And to reach a fevered rant: our so-called “feminist” scholars are absolutely intellectually and morally bankrupt hypocrites. They are traitors to our culture and a shame and a disgrace. They remain silent in the face of heinous crimes against women. They are arch-dhimmis when they refuse to speak of the Sunna, history and current rapes of our daughters, mothers, and sisters. And our tax dollars support their evil in our public universities.

  • Mozell Price

    Yeah, that's more or less what happened. Here's a little background: I grew up in a Christian household but was never really encouraged to find community or actually study my faith on my own. My parents were unfortunately very lukewarm about faith and okay with just simply going to church on Sunday. I'm not blaming them for my struggles, this just happens to have been a factor. Another factor is that I've had clinical anxiety and depression issues since adolescence. By the end of high school, I was badly struggling with my social issues and discontent with life. I moved around between schools, cut myself on my thighs, and generally hated myself. I've seriously considered suicide multiple times throughout my life. In addition, I did not fit in very well socially until I got to college and even now I have a lot of trouble. With these things in mind, it's clear that I was unstable in my faith and even in my self. It's very typical for young adults to go through a huge existential self discovery phase around the end of adolescence and sometimes into their mid twenties. I'm no exception. At the end of high school I radically abandoned my faith in favor of rationalistic thinking. I read up on evolution, abiogenesis (which I still believe in but reconcile with faith) humanistic philosophy and other things. In particular I became very interested in Nietzsche's philosophy and scientism. I looked down on religion as a coping mechanism for weak minded people and those who are unable to find happiness independently. I more or less worshipped the universe for its rational and mathematical beauty and myself as the central vessel which it is experienced with. Religious people, and Christians in particular, began to look more and more ridiculous. But over time I realized something: I was unable to manufacture my own happiness. Try as I might, I was unable to find happiness in my lack of religiosity; I thought I was enlightening myself by abandoning the silly ways of faith in God and looking for real answers, but all I found was emptiness and pointlessness. The universe only made sense in a weird, twisted, and unnatural sort of way. At first I was disturbed by where I had found myself. I think Godless people tend to still find something to worship. For some it's themselves. For others it's their careers. I tried to worship myself and find my own purpose and place and happiness independently but I failed miserably. I discovered that the self is terribly unstable and that my foundation for belief (and lack thereof) had always been in myself. One day my girlfriend convinced me to go to church with her. I almost had to leave in the middle of the service. It was disgusting watching all those people embarrass themselves like that. It was hard for me to watch them go on about a God that I didn't believe in or understand. It was freaky and uncomfortable and I felt like I had walked into a cult. However, it was familiar. I had heard the songs before, heard the passages and messages spoken by other people and not very long ago. Still it was foreign and revolting. I left with a sense of disgust that didn't make sense to me. I couldn't understand why what I had just witnessed was so alarming to me. Over time that girl worked on me more and more. During my deepest depressive throws she understood me and comforted me unlike anyone had before. She understood exactly what I thought about God and life and the universe, and because she understood me she could comfort me. She never pressured me into rediscovering God, but she did set the tools for doing so out in front of me. I saw the potential in that so I gave it a shot. I started reconsidering what I believed in. At first I became more open to other thoughts and interpretations of the universe. I became less hostile to Christianity and to religion in general and was more willing to consider Christian theology from the Christian point of view. I still had (and have) some pretty intense doubts, mostly concerning the Old Testament and the general historicity of Christianity and Judaism. Despite that I was now on different ground. I was prepared to look at theism and atheism honestly. I was more prepared to honestly examine myself and why I believed what I did.   Meanwhile, I still had an inherently unstable identity and image of myself. I still worshipped my self as the center of the universe because I believed that as a brain floating in a body on a rock in space, there was no use in deluding myself that there was some higher power concerned with me, just the cold logic of the universe and the circumstances it creates. My identity was what I did, and it was grounded in my relation to the world. I put my identity in what I did as a college student, as a computer security hopeful, and as an unstable atheist. I'll tell you right now that it's a bad idea to put your identity in how you relate to the world. The world or (possibly a better term for it) civilization is a complex and impersonal machine which only cares for inputs and outputs. Civilization is the amalgamation of social constructs and economic interactions which people must partake in if they wish to accept the social contract of law and order. It doesn't see you as a person because it doesn't see anything at all. It doesn't care for you and it by nature it can't and shouldn't. I worshipped myself but that was only possible if it was grounded in how I related to the machine. It was therefore unstable and unhealthy. If you value yourself the way that machine will value you, I guarantee you will be unstable and unhappy.   It took break down after break down for me to realize this. During one week in particular I spiraled worse than ever before and the feelings of self hatred and uselessness and pointlessness resurfaced. I kept it hidden at first and turned to alcohol and weed and Xanax to cope with it. Of course it festered and grew more and more ugly. But somewhere in there i finally recognized what I had been thinking all along. I finally realized that all of my reasons to abandon Christ were rash, that I was putting my own intelligence and strength above any higher power, that I was recklessly experimenting in an unnatural state of human independence from God. I realized that I was valuing myself based off of how the world valued me. I put God in a box and said "I've got this" and went out and tried to live without Him and I failed. So many factors were working in my life to bring me to this epiphany. So many discrete and seemingly unrelated developments over many years worked together in perfect harmony to bring me to that moment and to that set of realizations about myself. First my unstable religious foundation failed. Then I wandered in search of answers and purpose outside of faith. It seemed that my heart hardened and I became hostile to God and disconnected from Him. But the reality was the exact opposite. My wandering wasn't that failing religious foundation crumbling further and further away. It was a new one being poured, this time stronger. This foundation was poured with care and tempered with honesty and mindfulness and self awareness. It was being poured just as I thought I was eroding it away piece my piece. I thought I was examining why God cannot be. Really I was examining why I must be called to Him. Meanwhile the woman that I love had been subtly and patiently teaching me. At an oddly perfect time, I learned more about the actual theology of Christianity in one of my college courses. I was given the tools to confront Christ on honest terms and decide whether I wished to accept Him or not. To me it seems like one of those books where seemingly unrelated storylines are intricately and carefully weaved together to form a single thread and a unified story. That's how I feel about coming back to Christ. All these discrete things worked together in perfect union to surprise me at a perfect time and tell me what had really been going on in my life. I still marvel at the mystery of how God can do that without any evidence of divine intervention. How does He weave together a story so specific and intricate without breaking everything else with the butterfly effect? If what happened to me, a thing that happens to countless other people across the world, can occur the way it did without disturbing the balance of the world, then there must be an omniscient and omnipresent God. But anyways, there I was at the crossroads, the Way to one hand, and independence to the other. This is a crossroad that everyone faces and one I had faced many times before, but this time I knew something about both: I knew where the latter would take me because I had been there before. I found that it was a place of sadness and emptiness. But this time and unlike any other, I was prepared to start walking down the other way. I was ready to start following Christ on that path. I'm still walking, and I believe that I will still be walking until I die. I haven't been on this Way long, but I know that it is good. I've turned around and I've looked back many times but through the scripture I know this is the way of men like me. We stumble and fall like the children we are. But each time I look forward again, I'm overcome with emotion, more intensely than ever before and more intensely than I ever imagined. I cannot explain to you the pull that I feel on my heart each timeI look forward again. Just yesterday I turned back around from looking back and cried because of love and joy for almost an hour while driving to a different city. Faith now moves me in surprising and unpredictable ways. Sorry for dropping this absolute book on you out of nowhere. I suppose I wanted to tell the story to myself just as much as to you. I hope this helps you in some way.

  • Lurline West

    > It's not about excuses. If you think the holocaust didn't happen, that's a position which deviates significantly from the ordinary view and consequently requires a huge burden of justification. What does that have to do with anything I said? I'm not denying anything with massive amounts of evidence behind it. >Other beliefs are not core beliefs. This is particularly true of the doctrine of hell. This isn't just my opinion. I'm a theologian, and I know that the doctrine of hell is not well developed – simply put, scripture is pretty scant on the topic, and can be interpreted in a myriad of ways. Countless people have been excommunicated, tortured, and executed for teaching heresies. >Pope John Paul II said the following: "Rather than a place, hell indicates the state of those who freely and definitively separate themselves from God, the source of all life and joy." Hans Urs von Balthasar writes this: "we must see that hell is not an object that is 'full' or 'empty' of human individuals, but a possibility that is not 'created' by God but in any case by the free individuals who choose it". What Balthasar means is that hell is not itself God's creation; instead, it is a self-condemnation. There are no scriptures that teach that. The Bible teaches that Hell is a "lake of fire" (Revelation 21:8), people are "thrown" there (Revelation 20:15, Mark 9:43-48, Luke 12:5), God is the one carrying out the punishment (Matthew 10:28, Psalms 145:20, James 4:12, Matthew 3:12), it's a "fiery furnace" where there will be "weeping and gnashing of teeth (Matthew 13:50, many more), this lake of fire is a place of being "tormented day and night forever (Revelation 20:10), people there have "no rest day or night" (Revelation 14:11), it's a place of *conscious* torment (Luke 16:19-31, Daniel 12:2), it's a *sentence* (Matthew 23:33), it was *prepared*, as in *created* (Matthew 25:41), The church has always, up until only recently, taught that Hell was a literal place, it was a punishment from God, and it involved eternal suffering. Even the catechism of the Catholic states "The teaching of the Church affirms the existence of hell and its eternity. Immediately after death the souls of those who die in a state of mortal sin descend into hell, where they suffer the punishments of hell, "eternal fire." It also says what you were saying, but this is not biblical and has not been the dominant view of Christianity for most of it's history. The churches are now just teaching what people want to hear. >Have a look at the world around you. Maybe at some point in your life you remember being awed by the extraordinary beauty of nature. Again, putting God to the side and just focusing on nature: The world is wonderful. It is an extraordinary place and full of goodness. At every moment, there is beauty and there is order. Every single animal is designed to kill or flee. Everything suffers and dies. Millions of people live with disabilities and intense pain. Millions of babies are born with horrible birth defects and diseases. There are pretty flowers and mountain views on earth, but the idea that it is "wonderful" is the warped view of someone who is over-privileged in life, spoiled, and also ignorant. Just my opinion. >Regarding death in the world: First, we learn that death was introduced by the fall. What does that mean? There is a logical identity between that which is perfect and God. If some x is perfect, then it is God. Conversely, only God is perfect. Creation, by its very nature is imperfect. By being created, it tends to move away away from the desires of the perfect, and it tends towards death. Is the creation bad for bringing death into the world? Does death – which is inherent to created things – exceed the goodness of life? I very much struggle to accept that as an idea. Again, putting God to one side, the only reason that we can talk about things being good in the first place is because humanity exists to talk about goodness. If God does not exist, it is only because of our existence that value, that goodness has any meaning – that meaning itself is meaningful. It's also a mistake to view evil as somehow a property in and of itself. Evil only has meaning in relation to goodness: it is the lack of that which is good. Mortal life is a bubble of goodness. Since it is created, it is a finite bubble, and disappears in death. Death is evil only in the sense that death is the end of life. Death is only evil because life is inherently good. This is just empty philosophizing. It does not change the basic alleged fact that God created a world of suffering and death. This is what you religious people always do, you make up a philosophical rationalization for serious problems that does not solve anything, and you expect people to care. I don't. > In what scenario? Read the OT. God drowns millions of people because he thinks they aren't paying him enough attention, kills countless Egyptian children just to show off his power, burns soldiers alive for doing their jobs even though he could have used any number of non-violent solutions, swallows people up in the earth for questioning his cronies after years of miserable survival in a barren wasteland he lead them into for complaining about being hungry, it's everywhere. God is worse than any sadistic human dictator in history. He is absolutely no different than Adolph Hitler or Pol Pot. >That evil is our responsibility–the result of our createdness and thus our imperfection. That evil is the result of our inherent imperfection. It is the result of the fact that we are created and not uncreated; and that we are free in the sense that our choices come from our character and are not forced by God. God ostensibly created us. If a person is selfish, violent, dishonest, etc. these are mental states that God either directly designed, or allowed via incompetent design. The Bible does not even express the idea of free will. It only uses the term four times, and in every instance, context defines it as freedom relative only to potential *immediate* sources of coercion. It never explains that humans have some mystical power to override biology or psychology. Theologians invented that idea to rationalize away several logical flaws with Christian beliefs. Humans are physical creatures controlled by causality, and if God created us, he is responsible for everything that humans do. >A lot of people misread Joshua and Judges on this subject. It's about the Israelites constantly exceeding the commands of God and committing acts of evil. God reprimands them but in his mercy forgives them, time and time again. **God** ordered the Canaanite wars and other conflicts, which involved killing every single civilian and even animal that they come across. His appointed representative Moses makes one exception at Number 31:18. He tells his men to keep the Midianite virgins alive for personal use. God approves of sexual slavery (in addition to normal slavery, as other accounts attest). >Note, however, that in every case of destruction, God has already condemned the village / town for its absolute iniquity. It has no goodness left in it. For example, look at the preface to the story of Sodom and Gomorrah, Genesis 18:23:33. That is what all genocide leaders do. They make a broad, sweeping claim that an entire population deserves to die based on some ridiculous rationalization that makes sense only in their own mind. Who is God to judge who is good and who is bad when he himself is a mass murderer, among other things? Why do you think his course of action is acceptable under **any** circumstances? What does your approval of his actions say about you and your moral compass? *What did the children do wrong*? >They aren't accurate accounts of the birth of Israel. Then they are not authoritative in any way. >That's just not true. Throughout the Old Testament, God does not bring his wrath upon the non-Israelites for their religions. They are allowed to worship what they want, because God has not chosen to reveal himself to them. Maybe not in the OT quite so much, but he explicitly plans to kill and torture everyone who does not worship him. Am I wrong? >In the gift of Christ Jesus, God extends this gift to all people, but also causes so many more to be culpable by their rejection of the message of Christianity. People reject Christianity because it's just another man-made religion based on dubious old books and letters, not because they are evil. God has no right to harm anyone for rejecting him when he has made such a completely impotent attempt to communicate with mankind. His expectation that everyone convert to Christianity is not reasonable. >What responsibility? God has given life to all of creation, and offers those that wish life eternal with him. Those are both incredible gifts. The fact that creation is imperfect is not God's fault: that is just the essential difference between that which is created and that which is uncreated (i.e. God). Anything that is created is essentially imperfect, insofar as it is not God. There's just no two ways about it. Creation as we see it is the best possible creation. When someone is harmed by something that has anything even tangentially to do with my own actions, I apologize, and when I don't, I admit I'm being an asshole. God allegedly created the state of things as we have it. He is responsible for it. No amount of rationalizations can obscure the plain facts. (To be continued)

  • Davon Heathcote

    Islam, Slavery and Rape By Jamie Glazov FrontPageMagazine.com | Friday, November 23, 2007 Frontpage Interview’s guest today is Bill Warner, the director of the Center for the Study of Political Islam (CSPI) and spokesman for politicalislam.com. CSPI’s goal is to teach the doctrine of political Islam through its books and it has produced an eleven book series on political Islam. Mr. Warner did not write the CSPI series, but he acts as the agent for a group of scholars who are the authors. The Center’s latest book is The Submission of Women and Slaves, Islamic Duality. FP: Bill Warner, welcome back to Frontpage Magazine. This is the second part in our two-part series with you on the Center’s most recent book. In the first part we discussed Islam and its doctrine on the submission of women. In this second and final part we will discuss the matter of slavery. Welcome to Frontpage Interview. Warner: It is a pleasure to work with Frontpage. FP: So tell us in general where Islam stands on slavery. Warner: Islam’s stand on slavery is based on its political principles of submission and duality. The principle of submission could not be clearer. By definition a slave is the most submissive of all people. You become a slave only when you have no more choices. A slave has completely submitted to a master. The principle of duality is shown by the fact that Islam does not enslave Muslims, only kafirs (non-Muslims). Since only kafirs are enslaved, it assures that more of the world submits to Islam. Islamic slavery is based on the Trilogy of the Koran, the Sira (Mohammed’s life) and the Hadith (the Traditions of Mohammed). All three texts say that slavery is permitted, ethical, desirable and a virtue. There is not one single negative word about slavery. Slavery is seen as a process that brings kafirs to Islam. It is a virtue to free slaves, but Mohammed only freed slaves who submitted to Islam. If the kafir slave does not submit, then their children will. So given enough time, slaves convert to Islam. That is one of the reasons that Islam sees slavery as a positive. Of course, there is another reason that Islam sees slavery as being so “good” and that is the money. Mohammed and the other jihadists made a fortune out of enslaving kafirs. Mohammed used the money for more jihad. So slavery financed the spread of Islam and jihad from the beginning. FP: What were the ingredients of Mohammed’s own life in terms of slavery? Warner: Mohammed is the perfect pattern for all humanity and his life was saturated in slavery. When his mother died, it was a freed slave who nursed him. His first wife owned slaves. One of his first converts was a slave. His closest friend, Abu Bakr, traded one of his black kafir slaves for a Muslim who was enslaved by a kafir. But all of this was small change compared to his envolvement with slavery once he turned to jihad. In his first major battle at Badr, he stood by and prayed as his henchmen beat and tortured captured slaves to get information about the enemy kafirs. Slaves made Mohammed’s pulpit. Slaves mended his cloths, cooked his food, and did every thing that a slave does for the master. He gave away slaves as gifts and received them as gifts. He went to war to kill the males so that the remaining people would surrender to be sold as slaves. Mohammed sold slaves on both the retail and wholesale markets. He offered captured slaves their freedom if they would first agree that he was the prophet of Allah. A kafir slave then became a slave of Allah, because all Muslims are slaves of Allah. For a slave, the religion of Mohammed started and ended with slavery. FP: Can you talk a bit about Islam and sexual slavery? Warner: All morality in Islam is patterned after the example of Mohammed. Everything that he did and said defines what is permitted or “good”. Mohammed repeatedly sanctioned forced sex (rape) with kafir females after they were captured. The Hadith clearly reports that he got first choice of the women. In one case, he repeatedly demanded one particular woman for himself and swapped two other kafir slave women for his choice. So if Mohammed was involved in the rape of kafirs, then rape is a virtue, not a sin or error. When Mohammed destroyed the B. Qurayza tribe, all of the adult male Jews were beheaded, so that no husbands were left. Mohammed then took the children and gave them to Muslims to raise as Muslims and he sold off the Jewish women as slaves. We know from another story that the women were divided into sex slaves and domestic slaves. In one scene, a jihadist is trying to obtain a high ransom for a woman and he is told that her breasts are flat and her mouth is cold, so her value was less. In short, she was only good for work around the house, not in the bedroom. The Hadith tells of another story where the Muslims used coitus interruptus to avoid impregnating the kafir sex slaves. The reason was purely for business. If the kafir sex slave was pregnant, then she was worth less money. Islamic doctrine says that kafir women should not be used for prostitutes, only for the pleasure of the master. When Mohammed attacked the Jews at Khaybar, many moral precedents were set. Sexual slavery received an entire set of rules. Muslims were not to rape pregnant or menstruating women until they had delivered the child or finished their periods. At Khaybar, Mohammed’s god Allah, announced that even married women were fair game for rape. Mohammed only killed some of the Jews at Khaybar. The male and female survivors were needed to work the land as dhimmis. (The original dhimmis were semi-slaves with no civil rights. Today, dhimmis are ignorant kafirs who apologize for Islam.) Since Islam needed the men to work, husbands were left alive. That was the reason that the Koran said that in this case, even with the husbands looking on, it was good to rape the women. Sexual slavery was not only fun and profitable for the Muslim men, but rape was a powerful tactic of war, then and today. The women are forced into submission to Muslim men and the husbands are humiliated. Humiliated men are weakened men, so more kafirs were less able to resist Islam. For some time Mohammed’s favorite sex partner was a Christian slave from Egypt named Mary. One of Mohammed’s wives caught him in some state of intimacy with Mary in the wife’s bedroom and raised hell. Mohammed promised to not do it again and moved Mary to her own apartment in Medina. Mohammed had received Mary and her sister as gifts. He gave her sister away to a Muslim poet. He was used to giving away sex slaves. He gave several of his top lieutenants kafir sex slaves. Umar, who later became caliph, gave his sex slave to his son. [As an aside, when he was caliph, his son got drunk and Umar beat him to death.] FP: This institution of Islamic sexual slavery isn’t just a reality of the past is it? Warner: Everything that has been said up to now is not only history; it is Sunna (the example of the perfect pattern of action and morality found in Mohammed). So today we don’t have a beautiful blonde Christian girl on the block in Mecca, but we have continuous and ongoing rapes by Muslims in kafir cities. This goes on everywhere that Islam goes because it is Sunna. This is a continuous 1400-year history of jihad. In every detailed history that comes from the original documents from history, rape is a constant. You have to look in the original documents, since our historians refuse to report it in so-called history books. Rape is Sunna. Rape is not a sin. Rape is permitted and encouraged by Mohammed and the Koran. Islam is the only political system in the world that includes rules for rape and war. Rape is jihad. How good can it get? A Muslim gets to rape a kafir girl and get heaven credits. All jihad is a ticket to Paradise. The most disgusting aspect of the Islamic rape of kafirs is not the rapes, but the kafir response. Kafirs become dhimmis by ignoring the rapes. I challenge you to find one, even one, mention of Islamic rape in the history books. Islamic rape is more taboo than the N-word in the media. At least the N-word is acknowledged to exist. Even unicorns exist in media fantasy. But Islamic rape is forbidden to even exist as a fantasy. And to reach a fevered rant: our so-called “feminist” scholars are absolutely intellectually and morally bankrupt hypocrites. They are traitors to our culture and a shame and a disgrace. They remain silent in the face of heinous crimes against women. They are arch-dhimmis when they refuse to speak of the Sunna, history and current rapes of our daughters, mothers, and sisters. And our tax dollars support their evil in our public universities.

  • Efrain Boyer

    I will be the first to say that I don't always "get" high/vogue/avant garde fashion. Sometimes I'll see a piece I really love (even if it's impractical and not for normal wear), other times I hate a piece. It tends to vary and I'll have no idea where I'll land until I actually see the item(s) in question. I don't think clothes have to be functional or practical - that fashion can merge with art and exist purely to be unique, beautiful, and interesting. This is a bit off-topic but I tend to appreciate when books take the opportunity to use fashion as a way to bring drama or insight to a story. One of the most recent examples I can think of happens to be the The Hunger Games series. I will say that the way I imagined the garments seemed a lot more memorable and stunning in my mind than the on screen adaptations...but that's a different conversation entirely. Now this is “high” fashion, which is almost but not quite a world unto its own, since few people buy and wear on the street the outfits touted at these shows. The shows themselves, as is thus evident, are mainly for seamstresses (and seamsters?) to talk and boast among themselves. So it's clear that the author doesn't think much of this industry...or at least what they call 'high fashion,' which *would* be fine except for the fact that there's really something for everyone if you take the time to look. I just instinctively mistrust anyone that says they *hate*: video games, movies, fashion, music etc etc because there are so many different *types* and genres and varieties. I have the same eye-roll reaction when someone claims they hate working out. No, you just haven't found an activity you enjoy yet and you probably have a very narrow view of what 'working out' looks like. Anyway, moving on. > As in much modern “art”, the goal is to be as “transgressive” as possible. This sets up a competition to see who can be the most lunatic. Full disclosure, I had to look up what 'transgressive' meant (in my mind I thought 'travelling' and 'aggressive') for anyone else that hasn't heard this word before: - involving a violation of accepted or imposed boundaries, especially those of social acceptability. "her experiences of transgressive love with both sexes" - relating to fiction, cinematography, or art in which orthodox cultural, moral, and artistic boundaries are challenged by the representation of unconventional behavior and the use of experimental forms. - GEOLOGY (of a stratum) overlapping others unconformably, especially as a result of marine transgression. All right, so I disagree that 'modern art' can be so narrowly defined, and that modern art/high fashion etc can be so easily boiled down to 'lunatics.' Yes, fashion is a highly competitive field, but at the same time there are *lots* and *lots* of designers, many that specialize in their own particular niches. Not everyone has a show at fashion week, or even *wants* to get to fashion week...but they are still designers, bringing their visions to life and embracing their passion. I *do* agree that some of the chatter about fashion (and cooking, and decorating) can get a little too over the top and sound really stuffy and outright ridiculous - but that's by no means the standard (in my opinion). > Palomo Spain is a current leader in the race to total insanity. I don't know enough about Palomo (one way or the other) to agree or disagree with this statement. It does make me wonder however, because there are some pretty nutty things happening in other parts of the world when it comes to gender, equality, and acceptance. > Vogue, the magazine of gloomy, emaciated creatures and celebrity tittle tattle Okay, so another thing the author dislikes: Vogue. Got it. I've never bought the magazine, I have watched a documentary (I think it was vogue) about getting ready for a shoot or making a dress...I don't really remember. Again, skinny women in fashion is the *norm* so to suggest the origin of this 'toxic' idea was the result of this magazine seems (again) a bit simplistic. Out of curiosity I did a search of Vogue covers and found this: > September, 1933 Vogue has its first known cover girl in the form of the bisexual (and biracial) model Toto Koopman. She later became a spy for the Allies in Italy, where she was apprehended and escaped on multiple occasions. George Hoyningen-Huene/Vogue/Condé Nast Tell me more about how narrow, restrictive, backwards, and 'frivolous' this magazine is supposed to be again? Think about that for a second 1933, and they're featuring a biracial and bisexual woman. [Here](http://tmagazine.blogs.nytimes.com/2014/08/21/vogue-magazine-list-10-most-groundbreaking-covers-in-the-history-of-vogue/?_r=0) is the link for anyone that is curious. The women may all share similar slim builds, but they can (and generally do) have wildly different backgrounds. If anything, fashion tends to be one of the most accepting fields for people with unusual features, and unique looks. Sure, they can't be land whales, but I've heard too many 'rags to riches' stories *about* models that came from nowhere and achieved an entirely new life thanks to their physical looks. I don't think it's right to demonize anyone for making the most of what they have and following their god given right to pursue happiness. > Let’s repeat the lowlights: gave a bejeweled and feather-trimmed middle finger to the unaccepting and the regressive, clothes are clothes and can be worn by anyone. Intentional transgressiveness. Okay, so this is factually correct. Clothes *are* clothes, and they *can* be worn by anyone. People can do whatever they want (within the law), but that doesn't free them from criticism or judgement (here's looking at you "I can free my tits but men better not be turned on!" women). > Altogether, the Palomo Spain fall 2017 collection looked like what would happen if a young Spanish prince got into his mother, the queen’s, wardrobe. Or if a matador was feeling a bit kinky. (It also owed a major debt to the in-your-face hauteur of the the bad boys of the so-called Movida Madrileña of post-Franco Spain, like Pedro Almodovar.) The show opened with a feminine take on suiting, with ruffles, bell sleeves, and exposed shoulders. And closed with virginal boys in all white gowns and garters, plus one latex suit that resembled a bridegroom’s condom. The only thing that bothers me about the W Magazine summary is the 'virginal boys' line and that's because I think we *do* normalize the sexualization of children, and it's disturbing in my mind. I know there's really nothing *new* about using boys and girls right on (or under) the cusp of 'appropriateness' to sell (via sexual appeal) different products. There was a really controversial Levi's ad with a tween girl as I recall, and jeans aren't exactly the cutting edge of fashion last I checked. I could be completely wrong - but I *think* both the Vogue and W reviews are supposed to be a bit tongue-in-cheek and sensationalist (which is fitting given the actually collection/models). > Recalling the words, “A woman shall not be clothed with man’s apparel, neither shall a man use woman’s apparel: for he that doeth these things is abominable before God,” I say good riddance. I could be wrong...but historically the Pope (and many wealthy elites) have been both religious and interested in displaying their power and wealth with fashion. Technically speaking, you could also point out that men used to wear heels, and makeup, there's also the traditional Scottish clothing to consider, not to mention that if you get *technical* many religious robes *do* look like dresses. From a religious/conservative perspective - I completely understand why fashion maybe isn't something that gets celebrated a whole lot. I guess my main criticisms are this, and they really have nothing to do with the value of the show as a fashion statement etc. I dislike normalizing the sexualization of boys and girls. I think people can wear whatever they want, and people are free to *react* to those choices. I do think the fashion industry provides a lot of opportunities to people that otherwise wouldn't be able to attain a high level of success (sports offers similar opportunities as well). I really don't *get* these pieces. The models look greasy, sad, and dirty...so this isn't the first (or last) collection that misses the mark for me. At the same time I don't 'hate' Vogue, fashion, or even the people that *do* like this show. I know that androgynous models have been highly sought after in the past. Those that can pass as both male and female. I believe there's a very beautiful male model that has posed shirtless on the cover of a magazine - and it was pulled for being to risque because people didn't *realize* it was a man. Fashion has always (to my knowledge) pushed the limits, sought out new territory, and purposely tried to shock, amaze, and stun the public. So, this seems about par for the course. Furthermore, if *anyone* looks to movies, fashion, or music as *moral guides*....I think *that's* the bigger indication of lunacy.

  • Americo Boyle

    >How should I read postmodern literature as a Catholic? With a grain of salt. I've yet to see a bigger named Post-Modern philosopher who didn't take at least a moment to criticize the Church, which, in a sense, is to be expected in such a secular society. Although it seems as though they spend much less time on religion than their Nihilist and proto-PoMo counterparts (looking at you Nietzsche). But that doesn't necessarily imply that everything about PoMo is about that. As with philosophies like Nihilism, PoMo is a very wide philosophy that is very loosely defined, which allows one to subscribe to various portions while disregarding others (theres a bit of a joke in the philosophy world that states something along the lines of: over the years Post-Modernism has been defined so many different ways that the name has lost all meaning. The joke being that in modern times society has tried redefining things so many times through various ideologies, that we have lost meaning in even the most basic things, which is the core of PoMo philosophy). Much of the discussion by Post-Modernists is quite similar to what a traditionalist might talk about in terms of the degrading of social values. While a Post-Modernist might not inherently have the same expectations of society in terms of where to head (most don't expound on this), they see and understand that we are living in a time without moral values, where rampant consumerism is destroying the very foundations of what kept our species going all these years (marriage, family, religion, morality, tradition, a sprinkle of tribalism, etc), that our very existence is drowning in a lack of meaning and purpose. And without this purpose, people, and society as a whole, is starting to fall apart. Before, man would look to Christ for purpose. We lived virtuous lives with a strong sense of right/wrong, and had a goal for our lives (to have a family, to live and die with honor, to be with Christ). Now, with the lack of Him (and the values that follow Him) in society, humans have begun looking elsewhere for meaning and purpose. We (I use this term loosely) are looking to other men, to worldly pleasure, to abstract self-expression, to rampant individualism, complete and utter indifference and apathy, politics, nationalism, rampant and illogical humanism that is violently self-destructive, etc. These are all things recognized within Post-Modernism, and addressed by different philosophers in varying degrees. PoMo can be very complex. Jean Baudrillard is considered the one to have "started", if you will, the idea of PoMo. His most famous piece, *Simulacra and Simulation* (the book that inspired The Matrix movies), is often considered one of the most complex books ever written, and it's only about 160 pages long. It's a nightmare to read, but very thought provoking. >What should modern Catholics know about post-modernism? I think that Catholics share the same sentiments that most people share about PoMo, that it's some big evil that is a threat to everything they hold dear, and that it should be stopped. I very much disagree with this, because I **hate** modernity, and Post-Modernism is the destruction of Modernity coming to fruition. While it certainly can be destructive to our ideas if one chooses to allow it to be, it isn't inherently about that. I find that much more time is spent in PoMo criticizing the Modern, the capitalists and socialists, the politicians and the media, than it does even considering religion. I think that while most PoMo is typically quite atheistic, they recognize that the departure from the rule of Christendom has been as harmful as the liberals and modernists believed the Middle Ages to have been (Foucault touches on this a lot in *Discipline and Punish*. He believed that the difference in punishment for crime from then [physical suffering] and now [mental suffering] is a matter of degrees, not kind). At best, there have been no real positive changes in a large number of areas in our lives from pre-Enlightenment to Modernity. It's all been the same, just under a new banner. >How can we use it to better understand and engage with our modern society? I think being able to fully grasp modern society is something that most people living in it can't do. I think we can identify the things that bother us, but don't realize to what extent they are affecting society, or where they are coming from, or how deep it really gets. This is something that PoMo has really spent the last 30 years attacking. Understanding this allows us to better articulate the issues we have. And, as much as I'm not a Marxist, there are some really great Marxist thinkers who have gone after this very well (Gramsci comes to mind). We can say something along the lines of "feminism is bad because X, Y, Z", but that doesn't get to the root of the problem. *Why* is feminism so rampant and pervasive in contemporary society? Why do people feel like they need to make this their life's mission? Well, because of things like crippling capitalistic factors that create anxieties in us combined with a lack of true meaning and purpose to drive their lives. Women feel inadequate because capitalism tells them that they are inferior, that they aren't beautiful without more makeup, more expensive clothes, more jewelry, more more more. Advertising has replaced the Holy Scripture, money has replaced Christ, stores have replaced the Church, senselessly entertaining ourselves has replaced prayer life. It's considered a feat to sit in silence without scrolling facebook or reddit for an hour...to the point where people give it up for Lent. Through understanding underlying problems, we can begin to properly address them. >Can you go into a bit more detail on how post-modernism attacks capitalism, socialism, and any other major modernist ideologies? I've already addressed a bit on capitalism above. The big, reoccurring things I see a lot is how they address the media, and consumerism. The news, which is supposed to objectively tell us about the happenings of the world around us, has become more about ratings, advertisement, and entertainment value (think: clickbait). It's more important to them to create a scandal about something minuscule and irrelevant that the president says than it is to cover something important but might not get ratings. Objectivity and neutrality has been replaced with blatant lies. Most people can't begin to figure out what is true or not because of this. There is no line between fabrication and reality. Baudrillard argued that because of this our reality has actually become a complete fabrication. In terms of socialism, a lot of it points to the failures of the USSR and the fall of the Berlin Wall. Actually, let me rewind a bit. Capitalism and liberalism was meant to save us from the brutality of the Middle Ages. People would be free to choose their life path, the poor could become rich, economic and materialistic growth would set us free to become what we couldn't become under the rule of the Church and monarchy that had dominated western society for most of it's history. Fast forward to the 18th century, this wasn't really happening. A few were becoming rich, many were poor and hungry, children were being used as cheap labor. Imperialism, driven by capitalism, was breeding war on a large scale and would eventually lead to global wars of unimaginable horror. Step forward again, and socialism was thought to be that which would free us from the brutality of capitalism, just as capitalism was to free us. The poor wouldn't be poor anymore because everyone would have a slice of the pie. If we stopped producing for excessive profits, people wouldn't have to work so hard and they could be more free to do as they please. If we put political power in the hands of everyone, nobody can be tyrannical. Well...as we have all seen, that's not exactly what happened, and socialism ended up being just as, if not more brutal than, capitalism. Just as capitalism was just as, if not more, brutal as the Middle Ages. Millions upon millions of people starved to death under Stalin and Mao. There was massive oppression under these authoritarian regimes. People were being sent to labor camps, there were mass executions, people were afraid to speak out against any of it because they would disappear (Stasi in the GDR), etc etc. It was a massively failed experiment that didn't answer for any of the problems of the world. PoMo tends to see most ideologies as not being able to answer for the inherent problems in humanity, and often believes that they tend to exasperate them. Even if we take it to the most bleak and nihilistic end point, where our existence is a mere chance happening and there is nothing greater than ourselves, then humanity can't physically create the answers to give us any kind of meaning through ideology. For me personally, I agree that man can't create an ideology that answers for everything or fills the void in our lives that exists without our Lord. I believe that He is the driving force for our existence and meaning. To detract from that by replacing Him with ideology or other belief systems creates exponentially more problems than what might arise by having Him guide us. I hope this helps a bit. I'm in the middle of working, and trying to chase my <1yo son around the house.

  • Janice Trantow

    My grandma is 98 and bored out of her mind. I do stuff like ring her to get answers in today's crossword, or get her to tell me about something from her childhood, just to keep her neurons firing, but she's so exhausted by just accessing her memory for a few minutes, she has a nap afterwards. She used to be very social and involved in our little town's community, but now she just doesn't leave her apartment. There are all sorts of activities at her retirement village, craft and knitting and bowls and stuff, I've tried - we have *all* tried - to get her to engage with things that might help with the boredom, but in the end we just have to accept that we cannot change other people's behaviour. We can only try to monitor and moderate our own. Your grandma is only 71 - she's hardly past retirement age! And it sucks that you feel that she's wasting her life and not looking after herself. I understand. And I really empathise. Legit. I instinctively spend all my energy on my loved ones. And most of the time you're putting everything into trying to achieve the impossible - changing someone else's behaviour - and you're neglecting yourself terribly. Which doesn't help you, and it doesn't help them, and it makes you less capable of helping them in ways that aren't impossible. That's not something about which you should beat yourself up - wanting to help our loved ones is just biologically innate. You can stop feeling that desire just as little as you can stop feeling cold when you shove snow down your shirt. And when you focus on yourself, you will feel guilty for not focusing on other things that you value. You just will. That feeling will be there - be prepared to have it hanging around in the background, being unpleasant. Feelings don't go away. We just get better at accepting their presence while we focus on things that are, at the moment, more important to us. Your grandma would be crushed if you killed yourself. So that's not going to help the situation. What would help your grandma is for you to give yourself some slack and take some time to feel sad if you feel sad, feel suicidal if you feel suicidal, feel helpless and hopeless and full of ennui if that's how you feel. I'm not saying you have to wallow around in it all the time - just give yourself permission to feel it when you feel it. I feel like a hypocrite saying this to you. I've been bottling up my shit for a while because I didn't want to disappoint my husband and my mum and my colleagues by having a relapse, right when I looked like I was on a pretty steady path towards recovery. About two weeks ago, I 'came out' as being all kinds of fucked up, told everyone about all the IRL balls I'd been juggling, gave them notice that I was about to drop all those balls, and accepted the fact that they were going to have to sort out all those balls amongst themselves while I essentially built a blanket fort and assumed the foetal position. So now I feel sad, because I'm stuck with crappy brainmeats that I can't control, and I'm anxious, again because of the brainmeats but also because by dropping all those balls I no longer control them which means someone else might do them wrong, and I feel guilty, because the people in my life just got handed a bunch of extra balls to juggle, and they already had their own. And I'm having a really hard time letting go of my balls (lol) and letting myself feel my feelings. I'm having a hard time saying 'this is too hard, someone else needs to do it.' Maybe I can find someone who can do that for me, too... And I can't do anything about any of it. All I can do is try to remind myself that none of this is my fault. I didn't do anything wrong to deserve the brainmeats that I have. If I could fix it, obviously I would. People who say 'just think happy thoughts!' need to be fed to giant lizards. Cos duh, I hadn't thought of that? I haven't tried to 'be more positive' and 'focus on the good things in my life!' ????? Seriously. Giant lizards. Your brainmeats are not your fault. You cannot manually control them. Your body is *literally* wired to feel things. You cannot stop that. And it fucking suuuuuuuucks. OMG it hurts. Like holy shit, ow, my feelings. It's physical, too - sadness, anger, anxiety, fear, grief, guilt, you can feel them in your body. You physically feel feelings. Sometimes I feel like I'm choking from anxiety and panic and fear; sometimes I feel like my heart is gonna explode out of my chest from anxiety; or my ribcage is going to crush my lungs from fear; my stomach feels like a black hole with sadness and grief; my jaw muscles ache from anger and my teeth grind from frustration. People who don't have brainmeats like ours have no concept of how visceral our emotions are. They're tangible. And they suck. So hard. Ow. Right now, my mother-in-law is grocery shopping for me while she is waiting for a load of my laundry to go through. My husband is at work, earning enough to look after both of us, because I can't have a job because my brainmeats are too fucked-up. I feel bad about these things that others are doing because I can't. And that's normal. And I'm going to do the crossword and have a cup of tea, which my mother-in-law will make for me, and I will remind myself that I need some time to not worry about anything but myself. It is not my fault. I still feel guilty, and I have to make room for that while I sit here letting other people look after me and doing whatever I need to feel comforted. Because I'm a human being in pain, and just as I show compassion and acceptance for other human beings in pain, so I must do for myself. I'm feeling sad, now, so I'm going to let myself cry while I finish this message. It's so fucking hard to let the feelings out of their bottle. I instinctively recoil from them and push back at them. I don't want to feel these feelings. I don't want to have these brainmeats. I don't want to be a constant supply of balls for my loved ones to manage. It hurts so bad. I want to write that it's all my fault, that I'm broken and faulty and I don't deserve love and support, that I'm just a burden and that everyone would be better off without me. Those are thoughts that I have. Like feelings, thoughts just happen. We can't stop them. We can find ways to sort out which thoughts are helpful and which ones are unhelpful, and learn skills to notice when we're really stuck on a thought which doesn't help us in any way, and little tricks to unhook ourselves from that merry-go-round. And the thoughts still come, and we still have to think them and have the emotional reaction that comes with them - we just get better at knowing which thoughts are going to move us towards some sort of action that will make our lives more the way we want them to be, and we get better at recognising thoughts that tie us to shitty feelings and lies we've learnt to tell ourselves from having shitty brainmeats our whole lives. I try to name my thoughts, like, 'This is me having that thought I have where I blame myself for being how I am,' or, 'This is me having that thought I have where I tell myself I'm not good enough,' or, 'This is me having that thought that I'm a burden and that people would be better off without me.' They're like old children's books I've read to myself so many times that I know every word on every page, I know the beginning and the ending, I can picture every illustration, the font, the smell of this storybook. I've read this story, the 'I'm not good enough' story so many times, thousands of times more than any Roald Dahl or Berenstein Bears or Spot the Dog. And I read these stories to myself in my head over and over, and while I'm reading them to myself, I'm, like, immersed in them. They become reality. Even though they're only stories, I'm living them. I'm feeling the emotions that come from these stories as though the stories are true. And the stories aren't true. Okay, maybe some of the more complex ones are 'based on a true story' like some movie that takes a few facts and adds in a whole heap of extra stuff to amp up the box office sales. But even then, they aren't an accurate representation of reality. There might be some small portion of factual information which, given time and space to interrogate that whole story, I might find helpful *in the future when I have the emotional resources and appropriate professional support*, but for now these stories are my reality and they aren't accurate and they don't help me get anywhere closer to how I want to be, and they trigger feelings that hurt, and that aren't even based on the truth! It's full on, huh? So now I'm recognising and naming thoughts and stories I tell myself, and accepting that in order to look after my own health I will feel things like guilt and shame, and I am letting myself feel the enormous gaping sadness, and I am feeling compassion for myself as though I am someone else, and oh my god, this person deserves compassion, because oh my god, this person has shitty brainmeats and they are in so, so, so much pain, I really need to give them a hug and let them cry on my shoulder and sit with them and watch reassuring DVDs and eat reassuring food and providing them with soft teddy bears and fluffy blankets. Cos their pain is totes legit. My pain. Your pain. Legit. I'm going to go get my teddy bear and cry a bit and watch the first season of The 100. Again. Cos it makes me feel comforted. And that is self-compassion. *sigh* Ow.

  • Unique Collier

    > The actual halachot are the list of halachot in my initial comment like for example: women can't be released from marriage until their husband gives them a get. And a man cannot force his wife to accept a Get. And he is required to give a get whenever she requests it. And he has to be the one with a valid reason to try and give her a get.It is sad that people, both men & women, use a get as a weapon but I can't see how this is against women when they have the larger rights when it comes to a Get. > The explanationso given to each one ranged from colloquial Jewish folklore to things that are actually written in the Talmud. I'm not going to go through each one but they don't all have sources in Judaism, some of them are very recent and have been adopted since the feminist movement became relevant to Jews. I don't see how the explanations I gave are recent. As far as I know, unless you have a source, all of them are grounded in halacha from NOT being recent as far as I have been taught. I find that many things, especially today with the advent of an easier ability to access books, that this is why a lot of this stuff is become more know because we can find it now. > Many sects of Orthodoxy are more sexist than othersm Gur chasidim arent allowed to call their wives by name and that is the largest hasidic group in Israel. Historically up until the 19th century it was forbidden to teach your girls torah. I agree about sects but in general Orthadox Judiasm is not like that. And I have to disagree about girls not being taught Torah. Women have, until society itself changed, mainly at home. This is not a Jewish thing or a Christian thing, etc - it is the society/the world at large which had it like this. Women needed to know Torah in order to run a household and make sure their children began to learn what it meant to be a Jew. Yes the stories we mainly read about are the struggles to send the boys to learn Torah but again thats about obligation. It was also very expensive for the longest time to try and send a boy to go & learn so its also the time period you have to look at. As society & finances changed in the world so too did the Jewish world. But never have I learned about that girls were purposely excluded because they were girls. > If you do a bit of reading on it Judaism has a long history of being patriarchal. Of course it is. Because Rabbinical Judaism is in the hands of Rabbis. Which are Rabbis because they are obligated to learn the Torah. But I have learned many stories about the wives of Rabbis who have helped their husbands or had their husbands rule in certain ways because of their insight. > I dont think that is evil or anything but i think it can be hard for Jewish girls sometimes and maybe it will change. I think it is changing. Thought not always for the best of reasons. The Yeshivish focus WAY too much on Kollel and expect the girls to have good paying jobs which I find unacceptable. However outside of the Yeshivish, among thoughts who are more towards the YU/OU thinking I feel this is changing in large ways. I think initially the Bais Yakkov movement was a huge thing and far ahead of its time when compared to society at large. > I know and agree that today a lot of Orthodox jews try to sort of raise their children in an equal environment despite the actual letter of the law which is great. The letter of the law far better IMO than how the enviroment is in NY area and the like - outside of NY in the communities that aren't beholden to the Yeshiva Movement as much you see a far better outlook for both girls & boys. > But their daughters still know they can never grow up to be a leader in their community. That I feel is completely wrong. There are many women who are leaders of the communities. Well respected lecturers, authors, and the like. I am always reading divrei torah from women from numerous publications and websites. > I use the Rabbi example because to me it seems like the most obvious one that would be hard to argue out of. If the leaders and most respected members of the group are exclusively male how can you say women are not discluded? They are stopped from doing any leading with a minyon, from being on a bais din, and deciding certain questions of halacha. Beyond that though what are they excluded from becoming? I can't think of anything off the top of my head. > Calling my opinion an "agenda" is just trying to make it sound sinister. But it is an agenda because you are looking at the forest instead of seeing the trees. In broad strokes you can argue that Judiasm is sexist but at a closer look the religion itself is not but the people who are a part of it can be. > you probably believe God wrote a book and told you to follow it and that you should follow later commentaries on it- that's an opinion, or a belief, but by your definition it's an "agenda". Nope. It doesn't fit the criteria of an agenda. I am not looking for any way to push forward my points. I am open to you trying to convince me that you have a solid foundation for your viewpoint but so far I don't agree that you do. I feel like you are doing that and deflecting the concept that what you did right was flat out lies - even if it is a lie by not mentioning the other side - such as with a Get that I wrote above. I also don't do things just because God said it. The commentaries are very helpful in understanding the Torah and the only part of the commentaries one should listen to are the ones who bring to the table sources that can back up the explanation and it follows the established way of proving the issue. A commentators personal opinion should always be taken with a grain of salt because they lived in a different world and a different place. Case in point with the Rambam: He doesn't talk about Islam much because it would mean his head if he talked negative about Islam because he lived among them and they were his patrons. Also I suspect his stance on women were more in line with Islam since it was expected that woman should take a backseat. I could be wrong about that, and my thinking would be a justification about what he wrote. However his own comments about such things doesn't take away from the Mishna Torah that he wrote, the arrangement of the mitzvahs, his rulings about the law of marriage. > My opinion is I don't believe that and there are a lot of things about Judaism that you might like but I don't. True and perhaps I dislike stuff that you do like. Everyone has their feelings on the subject :) > One of those is how when you raise questions or dissenting opinions the response is defensiveness and not reflection. Questions should always be asked. Judaism is a religion of asking questions. Anyone who says they should blindly follow what a Rabbi says should be taken aside and slapped in the face IMO. The Torah is every Jews right. Every Jew has the right to learn halacha straight from the source. The problem that is going on in Orthadox Judiasm today, and talking about Yeshivish and above, is that they are blindly taking their Rabbis advice or their rulings of halacha which are clearly their opinion on the matter instead of the basic understanding of the halacha. B"H I have a Rosh Yeshiva who will give me both - the letter of the law and what he feels about it. Not everyone has a Rabbi like that. > Regardless I don't have any issue with you liking the explanations you were given but you have to understand were probably looking at it through a different lense. You are taking the words of the commentaries at face value because you think of them as holy scholars, and I'm sure many of them were but they were also just people and men have given us many nice reasons historically for why women need to be subdued. But if you do follow every word these guys say why wouldnt you take the negative comments they wtote at face value. Those comments werent offhand they are in Gemara. Theres a long debate in Gemara on whether women are allowed to study torah or have the capacity. They are argueing actual halacha saying women who study will lose their innocence or become lazy. So why are you ok with calling that stupid even though its the words of your sages. Because I can disagree with their opinions on the subject. I feel that a learned torah scholor is holy due to their Torah Knowedge. They might have also good advise but I am not there for their advice or comments I am there for their torah. I don't need to listen to their personal comments on anything outside the Torah because that isn't what I am there to learn. Their opinions and the halacha have to be seperated. If one is going to keep connecting them then yes you are going to have issues with it because you can't seperate the two. But seperating has to be done. That is why we have the Rif, the Shulchan Aruch, and other codified halacha works that don't bring in those miscellanious commentary. Also many of those comments need to be looked through a lense of the times that they come from. Women were needed to be in the home and taking care of children. That is about how the world was then - not as it is now. If the matter is halacha then that isn't really changeable. Halacha says women should learn the Torah. Halacha does not view a woman as being lazy or losing their innocence if they learn. However it is only during recent times that woman can freely go ahead and learn and be more outside the home. But that is also due to society in general has changed.

  • Rae Walter

    OK, I'll try to explain this with a bit more context. And to be clear I do understand where you are coming from, so this isn't against you personally. Actually your view on this is far from unusual-it is perpetuated throughout many cultures and has been or attempted to be ascribed into law. It is found throughout classic literature, mythology, and holy books. It's literally sanctified in the form of one of the most contemporary saints, Maria Goretti, who told her would be rapist to stab her to death instead of taking her virginity (and then forgave him en route to the hospital after he obliged!) In contemporary media it persists, in shows like law and order SVU, where the detectives commonly infer that their "special victims" are irreparably damaged, or in shows like intervention where addicts on the brink of death almost always have some tragic childhood history involving molestation. Which is not to suggest those experiences are not real or even common, but it's just a very typical narrative. It's also the concept behind a handful of states efforts to make child rape a death penalty offense in recent years- invoking the very same language that you used. And I believe it's well intentioned in most cases, a way of attempting to empathize and advocate justice for victims, while conveying the trauma of rape in a way that is universally understood. But there are several issues with this framing. First there is the personal impact on victims. For one if we say that those who have been raped suffer a “fate worse than death” that will haunt them for the rest of their lives, what reason do they have to continue living? If death is truly the lesser of two evils, why would someone already suffering hesitate to embrace it as an escape? As you see in the Netherlands case, some will do just that. It feeds directly into the sense of helplessness and hopelessness that many victims feel in the aftermath of trauma. In the midst of that it truly feels like there is no way out- it's all encompassing. Conversely for victims who *don't* end up with PTSD or significant mental anguish, it may make them question if their experience was actually valid, or wonder if there is something wrong with them if they don't respond in the expected way. They will be much less likely to press charges, which is obviously bad for society as a whole. And victims who comply with their attackers and don't fight back may feel complicit- even though it's been proven that this improves your chances of survival and serious injury, especially in stranger attacks. But if rape is a fate worse than death, then there is an implicit expectation that the victim should fight to the death in order to avoid it. This attitude is reflected in law's all over the world even today, even in what we consider progressive, enlightened countries. In Germany for example, a charge of rape required evidence that the victim physically fought back and was overcome by force until July of 2016! And it took the horrific and largely unpunished public assaults in Cologne before new legislation was even considered. There's also the fact that so much of the psychological damage from rape and sexual abuse is related to shame. That shame stems from the idea that being raped makes you "damaged goods", which is an attitude inflicted by culture and not intrinsic to the crime itself. See for example what happened to Elizabeth Smart- while she was held captive she actually heard people searching for her and could have been rescued. But because she had been raped- and because she grew up with the message that sex makes a girl like a "chewed up piece of gum" (these were the actual words used by her abstinence only sex-ed teacher)- she didn't respond. Also if you look at how rape victims are treated in some cultures- how they literally are cast out of villages and treated like lepers, even killed- you can see how that kind of framing is quite damaging to victims. Looking back at the history of how rape has been regarded by society, it becomes a bit more clear where this attitude originates. One of the first known examples of rape being viewed as a crime is early Babylonia. It was seen as a property crime against the husband of the victim. The punishment involved binding the victim to her rapist and throwing them both into the river to drown. The husband was seen as the victim because rape violated his exclusive sexual access to his wife, and her chastity. This attitude of rape as a property crime persisted throughout history and into early common law which designated rape as a "crime against nature”-the natural order of things being a husband's ownership of his wife. When criminal statutes were implemented in the Americas, the common law conception of rape was imported into the legal code, but the harshest punishment for rape was in Confederate States. This was largely due to the racially based fears of white women being defiled-and thus ruined- by black men. And today the harshest sanctions against rape, including death, are seen in the very cultures where women are the most oppressed. It isn't because women are valued- quite the contrary, these are usually the same cultures that ostracize or even punish victims, hearkening back to ancient Babylonia. And these are the same cultures where the idea of rape as worse than death is most firmly rooted. Here's an example, from Yemen (http://newsandletters.org/to-yemenis-rape-is-worse-than-death/) >"I would rather she died than be raped,” said Um Ahmed Alam angrily. A woman in her fifties, she fears the chaos the country will suffer if civil war breaks out in Yemen. >Her fear of sexual harassment is bigger than her fear of losing any of her four daughters. “Death is death, we all will die eventually, but the shame of rape is what we cannot handle,” she said sadly. >... >Mothers have begun to exchange advice on how to protect their daughters from rape if the country slips into civil war. “I would kill my daughter with my bare hands if this happened,” said Alam’s husband, even though he acknowledged that the girl would be the victim in this situation. Consider the fact that people only say things like this about sexual violence. Survivors of horrible car accidents, combat, violent attacks that aren't sexually motivated etc. All are likely to have PTSD, but you really never hear it suggested that they might have been better off if they hadn't survived unless they emerge with so much physical damage that their quality of life is next to nothing. So that leads me to question what it is about rape that is so different? The trauma that most often manifests as PTSD is the fear of death from having your body is completely under the control of someone with intent to cause harm, but that's really no different than what someone experiences being mugged or beaten. That's not to say it's the same-having your body integrity violated for someone else's pleasure is sickening and there is something especially horrific about the up close and personal nature of sexual trauma-the smell, the taste, the sheer proximity of another human being who is terrifying and revolting- that stays with you in a way that other forms of trauma may not. But from my experience and what I've heard from others, it's the feelings of shame that cause the most mental suffering. And that is entirely a byproduct of culture and socialization rooted in really archaic concepts of intrinsic human worth and identity. For children, innocence. For women, purity and chastity. For men, strength and virility. Sexual assault feels like an annihilation of what we are conditioned to value the most. The child is robbed of innocence, the woman is defiled and forever tainted, the man becomes a weak and submissive victim. In a culture where these traits are seen as the crucial elements of personhood, the act takes on a greater power than the crime itself. Attempts to recover are then rendered futile- those who have been raped are already the “living dead.” Sorry to write a book- and again I understand what you are trying to say and I believe it is well intentioned, I just really disagree with this concept and I've been personally fucked up by it.There has to be a balance between making sure justice is done for victims sexual violence without reinforcing the very beliefs that cause mental suffering in the first place.

  • Chaim Bartoletti

    OK, I'll try to explain this with a bit more context. And to be clear I do understand where you are coming from, so this isn't against you personally. Actually your view on this is far from unusual-it is perpetuated throughout many cultures and has been or attempted to be ascribed into law. It is found throughout classic literature, mythology, and holy books. It's literally sanctified in the form of one of the most contemporary saints, Maria Goretti, who told her would be rapist to stab her to death instead of taking her virginity (and then forgave him en route to the hospital after he obliged!) In contemporary media it persists, in shows like law and order SVU, where the detectives commonly infer that their "special victims" are irreparably damaged, or in shows like intervention where addicts on the brink of death almost always have some tragic childhood history involving molestation. Which is not to suggest those experiences are not real or even common, but it's just a very typical narrative. It's also the concept behind a handful of states efforts to make child rape a death penalty offense in recent years- invoking the very same language that you used. And I believe it's well intentioned in most cases, a way of attempting to empathize and advocate justice for victims, while conveying the trauma of rape in a way that is universally understood. But there are several issues with this framing. *** First there is the personal impact on victims. For one if we say that those who have been raped suffer a “fate worse than death” that will haunt them for the rest of their lives, what reason do they have to continue living? If death is truly the lesser of two evils, why would someone already suffering hesitate to embrace it as an escape? As you see in the Netherlands case, some will do just that. It feeds directly into the sense of helplessness and hopelessness that many victims feel in the aftermath of trauma. In the midst of that it truly feels like there is no way out- it's all encompassing. *** Conversely for victims who don't end up with PTSD or significant mental anguish, it may make them question if their experience was actually valid, or wonder if there is something wrong with them if they don't respond in the expected way. They will be much less likely to press charges, which is obviously bad for society as a whole. And victims who comply with their attackers and don't fight back may feel complicit- even though it's been proven that this improves your chances of survival and serious injury, especially in stranger attacks. But if rape is a fate worse than death, then there is an implicit expectation that the victim should fight to the death in order to avoid it. This attitude is reflected in law's all over the world even today, even in what we consider progressive, enlightened countries. In Germany for example, a charge of rape required evidence that the victim physically fought back and was overcome by force until July of 2016! And it took the horrific and largely unpunished public assaults in Cologne before new legislation was even considered. *** There's also the fact that so much of the psychological damage from rape and sexual abuse is related to shame. That shame stems from the idea that being raped makes you "damaged goods", which is an attitude inflicted by culture and not intrinsic to the crime itself. See for example what happened to Elizabeth Smart- while she was held captive she actually heard people searching for her and could have been rescued. But because she had been raped- and because she grew up with the message that sex makes a girl like a "chewed up piece of gum" (these were the actual words used by her abstinence only sex-ed teacher)- she didn't respond. Also if you look at how rape victims are treated in some cultures- how they literally are cast out of villages and treated like lepers, even killed- you can see how that kind of framing is quite damaging to victims. *** Looking back at the history of how rape has been regarded by society, it becomes a bit more clear where this attitude originates. One of the first known examples of rape being viewed as a crime is early Babylonia. It was seen as a property crime against the husband of the victim. The punishment involved binding the victim to her rapist and throwing them both into the river to drown. The husband was seen as the victim because rape violated his exclusive sexual access to his wife, and her chastity. This attitude of rape as a property crime persisted throughout history and into early common law which designated rape as a "crime against nature”-the natural order of things being a husband's ownership of his wife. When criminal statutes were implemented in the Americas, the common law conception of rape was imported into the legal code, but the harshest punishment for rape was in Confederate States. This was largely due to the racially based fears of white women being defiled-and thus ruined- by black men. *** And today the harshest sanctions against rape, including death, are seen in the very cultures where women are the most oppressed. It isn't because women are valued- quite the contrary, these are usually the same cultures that ostracize or even punish victims, hearkening back to ancient Babylonia. And these are the same cultures where the idea of rape as worse than death is most firmly rooted. *** Here's an example, from Yemen (http://newsandletters.org/to-yemenis-rape-is-worse-than-death/) >"I would rather she died than be raped,” said Um Ahmed Alam angrily. A woman in her fifties, she fears the chaos the country will suffer if civil war breaks out in Yemen. >Her fear of sexual harassment is bigger than her fear of losing any of her four daughters. “Death is death, we all will die eventually, but the shame of rape is what we cannot handle,” she said sadly. ... >Mothers have begun to exchange advice on how to protect their daughters from rape if the country slips into civil war. “I would kill my daughter with my bare hands if this happened,” said Alam’s husband, even though he acknowledged that the girl would be the victim in this situation. *** Consider the fact that people only say things like this about sexual violence. Survivors of horrible car accidents, combat, violent attacks that aren't sexually motivated etc. All are likely to have PTSD, but you really never hear it suggested that they might have been better off if they hadn't survived unless they emerge with so much physical damage that their quality of life is next to nothing. *** So that leads me to question what it is about rape that is so different? The trauma that most often manifests as PTSD is the fear of death from having your body is completely under the control of someone with intent to cause harm, but that's really no different than what someone experiences being mugged or beaten. That's not to say it's the same-having your body integrity violated for someone else's pleasure is sickening and there is something especially horrific about the up close and personal nature of sexual trauma-the smell, the taste, the sheer proximity of another human being who is terrifying and revolting- that stays with you in a way that other forms of trauma may not. *** But from my experience and what I've heard from others, it's the feelings of shame that cause the most mental suffering. And that is entirely a byproduct of culture and socialization rooted in really archaic concepts of intrinsic human worth and identity. For children, innocence. For women, purity and chastity. For men, strength and virility. Sexual assault feels like an annihilation of what we are conditioned to value the most. The child is robbed of innocence, the woman is defiled and forever tainted, the man becomes a weak and submissive victim. In a culture where these traits are seen as the crucial elements of personhood, the act takes on a greater power than the crime itself. Attempts to recover are then rendered futile- those who have been raped are already the “living dead.” *** Sorry to write a book- and again I understand what you are trying to say and I believe it is well intentioned, I just really disagree with this concept and I've been personally fucked up by it.There has to be a balance between making sure justice is done for victims sexual violence without reinforcing the very beliefs that cause mental suffering in the first place.

  • Elian Bogisich

    > I'm not entirely sure you're using the word "axiom" correctly. My background is mathematical, but the word "axiom" is frequently used (at least in a number of books I have read) in philosophy. I'm using this definition: > a statement or proposition that is regarded as being established, accepted, or self-evidently true. The key word here is "regarded" in that, in order to argue, you must start with some agreed upon facts. So, since that position is a basic tenant of what I (and most organized denominations of Christianity) believe and we are working with Christianity as the assumption in the argument. > There is no conceivable way you can argue that this is true in the case of God defining morality .... I don't need humanity to agree with me. I just need Christianity to agree with me. I feel like this is not carrying over to you: the argument assumes Christianity. > ... which implies your axiom is neither self-evident nor universal. Except in the case of Christians, where it is both. I think you're having a hard time assuming the Christian position to reason the rest of it out. I understand that you are not a Christian and so do not believe these things, but the question was about what Christians think. > Using the word "axiom" is simply a method to avoid having to establish your premise. That makes is sound like you think I'm trying to "get away" with something. I'm not. I'm saying that Christians use this as an axiom. If you don't like "axiom" read "assumption" if the lighter weight of this word feels better to you, but don't let it change what I mean: Christians start with the believe that this is true, and that plays into why Christians think what they think. > Are you trying to make things complicated for no reason? I'm honestly not. I'm trying to find common ground. I really do believe that you're giving God the quality of being an "observer" when this is not the case, or at least is only the smallest part of the case. Christians believe that God is the source of the code, not an observer that views the code externally: this is relevant. > Well, then your starting place is completely absurd. > Even if God did exist and is the origin of all reality, it does not follow that he is not an observer. > This needs to be expanded; something that counter-intuitive cannot simply be asserted. I am not an observer of myself in the same way that I am an observer of other things, since I also am myself. While you could say that I observe myself in certain ways, we would both agree I think that I observe myself in a way that is completely unique and it would be fair to argue that I'm not an observer of myself in the same way that others are. God's moral code is not something He thought up and handed down: it is a revelation of the character of God. In this way, God is not an observer of the moral code in the way that you and I are. The point here is objective versus subjective morals. Key to this concept is the assertion that when there are no "observers" present, the thing in question must still exist to be considered objective. From the Christian perspective, when you remove all the observers, you're still left with God here because God's moral code is a quality God has, not a list of statements that God can observe. God is unique in this respect. > So clearly belief in God is not an axiom. > What logic? All you've said is that "I believe God exists, therefore God defines morality." This is an assertion. I'm trying here and it seems you're getting frustrated. Let me try it more formally: > Why do many Christians ... believe that morality is exclusive to the religiously devout? - 1. Christians believe God exists (assertion, axiom, whatever makes you happy) - 2. God's moral code is a reflection of who God is (exegesis, so axiomatic for Christians) - 3. (2) implies the moral code is part of God, not something God created - 4. (3) implies God's moral code could not have created other than how it is. - 5. (1) and (4) imply that God's moral code exists objectively. This is not ridiculous. What if I asked you, "What is the oldest secret you have that you are completely certain no one else knows?" This has an objective answer. But if you don't exist, it is a nonsense question. You are an "observer" here, but you are also part of the think we are talking about, so you cannot be removed. The objective nature of the thing does not change. > Belief in God is not axiomatic under any definition of the word. I hope you're able to see that if the argument we are having is in the context of what Christians think, then yes, God is axiomatic. > If God said taking two eggs from four eggs left you with three eggs, would that alter the axiom? This is the kind of thing that doesn't get us anywhere. You're only asking this because you believe that a belief in God makes no sense. By definition, God does not lie and cannot be wrong. And yes, many of the answers here are simply: "that is what God means." You don't believe in God, so it is reasonable that you don't think these things. But for those who do, they make sense. > Humans have instincts regarding morality. By instinct, you mean an evolved "mental circuit" that leads to survival of the herd, for instance? > For example, humans are favorable towards fairness, and disfavorable towards cheating. I agree. I think this comes from a different source, but I do agree that this is absolutely the case. > If there's anyone out there that genuinely enjoys being duped, I've never heard of them. I don't think I'm asking too much though to presume that there are people with alternative moral codes (maybe there are some people who love cheating and while they do not enjoy being cheated, they think the cheater was "fair" in the sense that they were beaten. I've met these kind of people for sure.) The case here is that a person has a different idea of what moral should be that is not like your moral code. So, why is your moral code better than their moral code? Either their moral code is subjective, and your moral code is no better then theirs, leaving it as a matter of opinion, or you are appealing to an argument in favor of the most popular moral code being the best. But I don't think this is what you mean at all. I think you mean that your moral code is really better in some sense. The basic principle of "do unto others" is based on the idea that we have a sense of empathy with our group, whatever that is. But even if everyone did follow this principle, why is it better? Why is it not better for me to use the fact that everyone else is acting in my best interests to exploit this fact? (I know why I think it is better, but why do you?) The only other way I can reason out your moral code being "better" is in a utilitarian sense to make society better. But this gets me no closer to knowing why anyone should want to make society better. C. S. Lewis gives an example where he talks about a soldier joining the army to fight. This makes no sense. You could die or be hurt badly and you get no reward for yourself. The only rewards are things that help others. But if I'm dead, how will this help me at all? You can try to tie me to the future with things like friend and family and children but if I'm an orphan who can't have children and etc, what reason do I have to sacrifice for others? There's no utilitarian value here and there's no way I can profit from the herd survival after I'm dead. Whence comes my moral imperative to join the fray? > Let's imagine that tomorrow you receive indisputable proof that God does not exist. I understand this question, and I'm going to answer it, but I want to point out first that is has no use at all in the point of the big argument here concerning why Christians think what they think. If there's no God then it makes no difference what they think. Next, I want to tell you that I hate answering hypothetical questions in general and specifically those that involve really big things. I find that in real life, I rarely ever do what I think I will when something huge happens. You might think of yourself as cowardly in general and then the first time someone threatens your kid you turn into Wolverine. Saying what you would do in a situation you've never been in is hopeless: you can say what you think or hope you would at best. > If you had this evidence, would you no longer believe the pointless torture of children was wrong? I hope I would have the empathy that regardless of the moral code I would want to stop such a thing. I'm not sure the moral imperative comes into it at all. In reality, it would probably not matter all that much. I might think it was "bad" in some way but if it didn't effect me, I probably would not do much about it. When I was an "inactive" Christian years ago, my morals were much more purely utilitarian. If I allow someone else to be tortured, then what reason do I have to think that I or someone who impacts me would not be tortured. I think this is the much more realistic situation that we have in our reality. People act with almost entirely utilitarian moral drivers. I'm sure I would be no different. At the same time, I would admit that my moral code was subjective entirely. I can say this with some certainty because it is how I though back then.

  • Jimmie Welch

    OK, I'll try to explain this with a bit more context. And to be clear I do understand where you are coming from, so this isn't against you personally. Actually your view on this is far from unusual-it is perpetuated throughout many cultures and has been or attempted to be ascribed into law. It is found throughout classic literature, mythology, and holy books. It's literally sanctified in the form of one of the most contemporary saints, Maria Goretti, who told her would be rapist to stab her to death instead of taking her virginity (and then forgave him en route to the hospital after he obliged!) In contemporary media it persists, in shows like law and order SVU, where the detectives commonly infer that their "special victims" are irreparably damaged, or in shows like intervention where addicts on the brink of death almost always have some tragic childhood history involving molestation. Which is not to suggest those experiences are not real or even common, but it's just a very typical narrative. It's also the concept behind a handful of states efforts to make child rape a death penalty offense in recent years- invoking the very same language that you used. And I believe it's well intentioned in most cases, a way of attempting to empathize and advocate justice for victims, while conveying the trauma of rape in a way that is universally understood. But there are several issues with this framing. First there is the personal impact on victims. For one if we say that those who have been raped suffer a “fate worse than death” that will haunt them for the rest of their lives, what reason do they have to continue living? If death is truly the lesser of two evils, why would someone already suffering hesitate to embrace it as an escape? As you see in the Netherlands case, some will do just that. It feeds directly into the sense of helplessness and hopelessness that many victims feel in the aftermath of trauma. In the midst of that it truly feels like there is no way out- it's all encompassing. Conversely for victims who don't end up with PTSD or significant mental anguish, it may make them question if their experience was actually valid, or wonder if there is something wrong with them if they don't respond in the expected way. They will be much less likely to press charges, which is obviously bad for society as a whole. And victims who comply with their attackers and don't fight back may feel complicit- even though it's been proven that this improves your chances of survival and serious injury, especially in stranger attacks. But if rape is a fate worse than death, then there is an implicit expectation that the victim should fight to the death in order to avoid it. This attitude is reflected in law's all over the world even today, even in what we consider progressive, enlightened countries. In Germany for example, a charge of rape required evidence that the victim physically fought back and was overcome by force until July of 2016! And it took the horrific and largely unpunished public assaults in Cologne before new legislation was even considered. There's also the fact that so much of the psychological damage from rape and sexual abuse is related to shame. That shame stems from the idea that being raped makes you "damaged goods", which is an attitude inflicted by culture and not intrinsic to the crime itself. See for example what happened to Elizabeth Smart- while she was held captive she actually heard people searching for her and could have been rescued. But because she had been raped- and because she grew up with the message that sex makes a girl like a "chewed up piece of gum" (these were the actual words used by her abstinence only sex-ed teacher)- she didn't respond. Also if you look at how rape victims are treated in some cultures- how they literally are cast out of villages and treated like lepers, even killed- you can see how that kind of framing is quite damaging to victims. Looking back at the history of how rape has been regarded by society, it becomes a bit more clear where this attitude originates. One of the first known examples of rape being viewed as a crime is early Babylonia. It was seen as a property crime against the husband of the victim. The punishment involved binding the victim to her rapist and throwing them both into the river to drown. The husband was seen as the victim because rape violated his exclusive sexual access to his wife, and her chastity. This attitude of rape as a property crime persisted throughout history and into early common law which designated rape as a "crime against nature”-the natural order of things being a husband's ownership of his wife. When criminal statutes were implemented in the Americas, the common law conception of rape was imported into the legal code, but the harshest punishment for rape was in Confederate States. This was largely due to the racially based fears of white women being defiled-and thus ruined- by black men. And today the harshest sanctions against rape, including death, are seen in the very cultures where women are the most oppressed. It isn't because women are valued- quite the contrary, these are usually the same cultures that ostracize or even punish victims, hearkening back to ancient Babylonia. And these are the same cultures where the idea of rape as worse than death is most firmly rooted. Here's an example, from Yemen (http://newsandletters.org/to-yemenis-rape-is-worse-than-death/) >"I would rather she died than be raped,” said Um Ahmed Alam angrily. A woman in her fifties, she fears the chaos the country will suffer if civil war breaks out in Yemen. >Her fear of sexual harassment is bigger than her fear of losing any of her four daughters. “Death is death, we all will die eventually, but the shame of rape is what we cannot handle,” she said sadly. ... >Mothers have begun to exchange advice on how to protect their daughters from rape if the country slips into civil war. “I would kill my daughter with my bare hands if this happened,” said Alam’s husband, even though he acknowledged that the girl would be the victim in this situation. Consider the fact that people only say things like this about sexual violence. Survivors of horrible car accidents, combat, violent attacks that aren't sexually motivated etc. All are likely to have PTSD, but you really never hear it suggested that they might have been better off if they hadn't survived unless they emerge with so much physical damage that their quality of life is next to nothing. So that leads me to question what it is about rape that is so different? The trauma that most often manifests as PTSD is the fear of death from having your body is completely under the control of someone with intent to cause harm, but that's really no different than what someone experiences being mugged or beaten. That's not to say it's the same-having your body integrity violated for someone else's pleasure is sickening and there is something especially horrific about the up close and personal nature of sexual trauma-the smell, the taste, the sheer proximity of another human being who is terrifying and revolting- that stays with you in a way that other forms of trauma may not. But from my experience and what I've heard from others, it's the feelings of shame that cause the most mental suffering. And that is entirely a byproduct of culture and socialization rooted in really archaic concepts of intrinsic human worth and identity. For children, innocence. For women, purity and chastity. For men, strength and virility. Sexual assault feels like an annihilation of what we are conditioned to value the most. The child is robbed of innocence, the woman is defiled and forever tainted, the man becomes a weak and submissive victim. In a culture where these traits are seen as the crucial elements of personhood, the act takes on a greater power than the crime itself. Attempts to recover are then rendered futile- those who have been raped are already the “living dead.” Sorry to write a book- and again I understand what you are trying to say and I believe it is well intentioned, I just really disagree with this concept and I've been personally fucked up by it.There has to be a balance between making sure justice is done for victims sexual violence without reinforcing the very beliefs that cause mental suffering in the first place.

  • Mose Ortiz

    >Yes, when the might of the Forerunners are besieging a single system they were able to slow and even block with Human slipspace channels. Except that's not what it says. It talks about the crucial importance of slipspace to travel across interstellar distances (Which is not relevant for talking about the Battle for Charum Hakkor), and mentions that Forerunner manipulation of slipspace slowed and even blocked the arrival of human reinforcements (Meaning that other human worlds continue to be irrelevant). I'm not sure why you are lying now. I've given the page number references, so anyone reading this can clearly check it for themselves. Your attitude and dishonesty is probably why all your posts are being downvoted now. Your average score is 0. The rest of you post here is nonsense; half of which is exactly why the humans lost and half of which is unsubstantiated nonsense. >Furthermore, the fact that Didact even had to star-hop indicates that the Forerunners did not have an overwhelming advantage. Why bypass and isolate if they did? Why would the Forerunners even need to conserve their forces if their advantage is so great? To save the lives of their own warriors? That might make sense if the Didact didn't find it necessary to send his own children to die in the line of duty. Your ability to refute you own arguments as you post them and not realise it is hilarious. Yes, that's exactly why they'd conserve forces, and no the Didact's children don't mean anything because he didn't send them to die. You don't send soldiers to die. They died as a consequence of a battle. >Lastly, if the Forerunners leave small amounts of forces to guard human worlds, how would it be a waste of ships to destroy them? You do understand how asymmetric warfare works don't you? A central tenet to waging asymmetric warfare is to concentrate your own forces to produce a localized advantage against an overall superior enemy. I can cite countless examples if you wish but I'm hoping you actually have a shred of intellect and use google to verify this. The question you've asked has literally no context to it. Well done. >And small forces of Forerunners holding position over former human systems would be prime targets for these strikes. 1 fortress class guarding a human world? Humans concentrate 10 capital ships on it. Fortress is obliterated easily. The humans still on the planet are rescued, bolstering the Ancient Humanity's manpower. They leave before the Forerunners arrive to take their next free kill and liberate more humans. Anyone with a shred of military knowledge understands how catastrophic this would be for the Forerunners and how advantageous it would be for the Ancient Humans. But I've learned not to expect too much from you. Just so easily, despite losing key systems to the Didact's star hopping strategy, the humans are going to send vitally needed battleships to rescue 1 million humans from an arse backwards colony of no value or importance...whilst the Didact could strike at any of their centres of major industry or population... And just so easily, they are going to be able to evacuate all these people and somehow convert them into additional manpower that will somehow help them address a disadvantage in naval combat and slipspace...lol, you are utterly absurd. Keep spouting the same stuff you spouted since the other day; I'll keep refuting them with ease. >How unfortunate for you that Mythos is stated by 343i to be the "official, comprehensive, authoritative guide to the Halo universe". Furthermore the Preface of Halo Mythos directly states that it is the best record available. Where relevant, Mythos retcons Primordium. Get a statement from 343i on that. Otherwise, you are talking out of your arse. >And even then, the most likely reason for the surrender is because Forthenco loves the Didact. After all, he was still trying to hold out until Didact himself confronted him, despite having been backed into a corner. In fact, if you actually read Primordium, you would have noted that Forthenco knew it was over quite a bit before the Didact's infantry landed, yet he fought on. So stop pretending that the Ancient Humans are willing to surrender a lost cause. It's been directly stated by Didact that they wouldn't, and it's directly shown in both the books and the Terminals that they wouldn't. Stop wasting my time with this shit. Already refuted in an earlier post. Claims made without evidence will be dismissed without evidence. Next. >This is not bullshit at all. Even if their weapons are irrelevant to naval warfare (which you have no evidence to suggest that it would be), no rules, whether set out by treaties or by unspoken understanding, considers it genocide to kill armed enemy combatants simply because their equipment is bad. This is not about "Are the Forerunners living Saints of peace and fairness". This is about genocide. Killing armed enemy combatants, no matter how poorly equipped, is not genocide. Already refuted. Next. >Why are the Forerunners obligated to integrate armed enemy combatants into their society? Poor equipment? Because it prevents future wars, duh. >In terms of trade, the San'Shyuum have nobody to trade with. The galaxy is Forerunner territory. In terms of travel, once a-fucking-gain, I already explained to you the dangers of letting them travel freely. They can trade with the Forerunners, and you've failed to lay out a convincing case of there being any dangers to letting them travel freely if they are suitably integrated into Forerunner Ecumene. Next. >How is it frivolous to want to protect your people from future genocide? Enlighten me. Furthermore, you clearly don't even know your own evidence. Denazification as a program was not very successful and was opposed by the West German government. Marshall plan is NOT NEEDED because the San'Shyuum are already undergoing full historical recovery. And for the love of me I can't comprehend how the European Coal and Steel community could have anything to do with the Forerunners and San'Shyuum. No shit you're not going to explain it. You can't. That's cute, you read wikipedia. Denazification was a success by any metric because it introduced an element of guilt and empathy to the German populace over what had occurred in the Death Camps, as well as suppressing the undercurrents of Nazi ideology still present following the end of the Third Reich. West Germany didn't like it because they were the recipients of it. The Marshal Plan was enacted to rebuild Europe and prevent another economic collapse as seen in the interwar period in Germany that drove the rise of a ultra-nationalist party. Economic woes always give rise to far-right sentiment, which is currently going on today throughout the West. The point of the Forerunner's undertaking their own Marshal Plan would have been to make the statement to the San-Shyuum that they are not their oppressors, and therefore would alleviate post-war dislike towards the Forerunner. This in turns plays down any likelihood of future San-Shyuum generations rallying against the Forerunner. And the ECSC is about integrating the processing and production of materials vital to the manufacture of weapons and ships. That's the most obvious one. You are historically illiterate. >It's not oppression if they're left in peace and allowed to recover fully. Nor is it required to reduce their population. Their original population numbers were never stated. They were never even stated to have a large empire or domain. Without evidence to indicate that they had too many people to fit on 2 worlds, you cannot use this as proof of oppression. Already refuted. They aren't free to leave their worlds. Next. And population growth necessitates they have more than just two worlds. Do I need to explain exponentials to you now? The rest of your post is garbage and has already been thrown out. I'm not going to keep ripping the same shit to shreds over and over again because it does get boring. Just remember though, you're posts are being downvoted right into the gutter. Perhaps you should just admit that you've been an idiot, or do you want to keep pissing away any reputation you've got left?

  • Novella Cremin

    and you forgot to read the most important part.. Auguste Meessen, following the work done before him by the Belgian skeptic Marc Hallet,[25] has stated sun miracles cannot be taken at face value and that the reported observations were optical effects caused by prolonged staring at the sun. Meessen contends that retinal after-images produced after brief periods of sun gazing are a likely cause of the observed dancing effects. Similarly Meessen states that the color changes witnessed were most likely caused by the bleaching of photosensitive retinal cells.[26] Meessen observes that Sun Miracles have been witnessed in many places where religiously charged pilgrims have been encouraged to stare at the sun. He cites the apparitions at Heroldsbach, Germany (1949) as an example, where many people within a crowd of over 10,000 testified to witnessing similar observations as at Fátima.[26] Meessen also cites a British Journal of Ophthalmology article that discusses some modern examples of Sun Miracles.[27] While Meessen suggests possible psychological or neurological explanations for the apparitions he notes, "It is impossible to provide any direct evidence for or against the supernatural origin of apparitions".[26] He also notes that "[t]here may be some exceptions, but in general, the seers are honestly experiencing what they report." [26] Prof. Dr. Stöckl, a meteorologist from Regensburg, had also proposed a similar theory and made similar observations. Unlike Prof. Meessen, Dr. Stöckl hadn't seen "impressive colours", but had seen a dark blue disc almost covering the sun, which seemed to rotate.[28] Critics of this theory point to the fact that the crowd was not encouraged to look at the sun until the alleged miracle was already underway- the children did not tell the crowd to expect a sun miracle. Additionally, people in towns up to forty kilometers away, who had no knowledge of the alleged supernatural events at Fátima, also reported seeing the phenomenon. The phenomenon may actually have been expected by some – The witness Joaquim Gregorio Tavares testified that "we were there while having in mind conversations we earlier had with cool-headed persons who were anticipating some changes of color in the sun."[29] Madre Maria do Carmo, the daughter of a witness, claimed that in Alburitel it was "anticipated that the miracle would involve the stars", and that in the morning of October 13, "the people of Alburitel were darkening bits of glass by exposing them to candle-smoke so that they might watch the sun, with no harm to their eyes."[30] Additionally, at least two witnesses reported noticing colour changes before or simultaneously with looking at the sun.[31][32] Four witnesses, Carlos Silva,[33] José Maria de Proença de Almeida Garrett,[34][35] Antonio de Paula[36][37] and Manuel Gonçalves Junior,[38] claimed to have looked away from the sun and still seen the landscape change colours. While de Almeida Garrett had been looking at the sun for some time before turning away, Gonçalves testified that "The eyes were fixed at the makeshift gate so that something extraordinary might be seen, and without looking at the sun on purpose, he noted that in the same moment when the people burst out in loud cries and exclamations, because of what was seen in the sun, both the people and the trees and everything within his view directed at that gate, took on different colors." De Marchi states that the prediction of an unspecified "miracle", the abrupt beginning and end of the alleged miracle of the sun, the varied religious backgrounds of the observers, the sheer numbers of people present, and the lack of any known scientific causative factor make a mass hallucination unlikely.[39] That the activity of the sun was reported as visible by those up to 18 kilometres (11 mi) away, also precludes the theory of a collective hallucination or mass hysteria.[39] De Marchi cites Pio Scatizzi S.J. who identified two possible alternatives: The ... solar phenomena were not observed in any observatory. Impossible that they should escape notice of so many astronomers and indeed the other inhabitants of the hemisphere ... there is no question of an astronomical or meteorological event phenomenon ... Either all the observers in Fátima were collectively deceived and erred in their testimony, or we must suppose an extra-natural intervention.[40] There are two other possible alternatives, that Pio Scatizzi fails to recognize, and these would be that those taking part in the event were either deceived by their senses, or that they were experiencing a local natural phenomenon.[41] Steuart Campbell, writing for the edition of Journal of Meteorology in 1989, postulated that a cloud of stratospheric dust changed the appearance of the sun on 13 October, making it easy to look at, and causing it to appear to be yellow, blue, and violet, and to spin. In support of his hypothesis, Mr. Campbell reported that a blue and reddened sun was reported in China as documented in 1983.[42] A parhelion in rainbow colors, photographed in 2005 Joe Nickell notes: "Not surprisingly, perhaps, Sun Miracles have been reported at other Marian sites—at Lubbock, Texas, in 1989; Mother Cabrini Shrine near Denver, Colorado, in 1992; Conyers, Georgia, in the early to mid-1990s".[43] Nickell also suggests that the dancing effects witnessed at Fátima may have been due to optical effects resulting from temporary retinal distortion caused by staring at such an intense light.[43] Nickell also suggested the cause may have been a sundog.[44] Sometimes referred to as a parhelion or "mock sun", a sundog is a relatively common atmospheric optical phenomenon associated with the reflection and refraction of sunlight by the numerous small ice crystals that make up cirrus clouds or cirrostratus clouds. Paul Simons, in an article entitled "Weather Secrets of Miracle at Fátima", stated that he believes that it is possible that some of the optical effects at Fátima may have been caused by a cloud of dust from the Sahara.[45] Kevin McClure claims that the crowd at Cova da Iria may have been expecting to see signs in the sun, since similar phenomena had been reported in the weeks leading up to the miracle. On this basis, he believes that the crowd saw what it wanted to see. However, none of the previous phenomena had to do with the sun; the focus, for the most part, was on the little tree where the lady was said to appear. Kevin McClure stated that he had never seen such a collection of contradictory accounts of a case in any of the research that he had done in the previous ten years, although he has not explicitly stated what these contradictions were.[46] Leo Madigan, a former psychiatric nurse and local journalist at Fatima in the late 20th century, believes that the various witness reports of a miracle were accurate. However, he alleges inconsistency in the accounts of witnesses, and he suggests that astonishment, fear, exaltation, and imagination must have played roles in both the observing and the retelling. Madigan likens the experiences to prayer, and considers that the spiritual nature of the phenomenon explains what he describes as the inconsistency of the witnesses.[47] Stanley L. Jaki, a professor of physics at Seton Hall University in New Jersey, a Benedictine priest, and the author of a number of books dealing with the intersection of science and faith, proposed that the event was natural and meteorological in nature, but that the fact the event occurred at the exact time predicted was a miracle.[48] wich destroys your claim.. and also its not a proof at all.

  • Angelita Kreiger

    OK, I'll try to explain this with a bit more context. And to be clear I do understand where you are coming from, so this isn't against you personally. Actually your view on this is far from unusual-it is perpetuated throughout many cultures and has been or attempted to be ascribed into law. It is found throughout classic literature, mythology, and holy books. It's literally sanctified in the form of one of the most contemporary saints, Maria Goretti, who told her would be rapist to stab her to death instead of taking her virginity (and then forgave him en route to the hospital after he obliged!) In contemporary media it persists, in shows like law and order SVU, where the detectives commonly infer that their "special victims" are irreparably damaged, or in shows like intervention where addicts on the brink of death almost always have some tragic childhood history involving molestation. Which is not to suggest those experiences are not real or even common, but it's just a very typical narrative. It's also the concept behind a handful of states efforts to make child rape a death penalty offense in recent years- invoking the very same language that you used. And I believe it's well intentioned in most cases, a way of attempting to empathize and advocate justice for victims, while conveying the trauma of rape in a way that is universally understood. But there are several issues with this framing. First there is the personal impact on victims. For one if we say that those who have been raped suffer a “fate worse than death” that will haunt them for the rest of their lives, what reason do they have to continue living? If death is truly the lesser of two evils, why would someone already suffering hesitate to embrace it as an escape? As you see in the Netherlands case, some will do just that. It feeds directly into the sense of helplessness and hopelessness that many victims feel in the aftermath of trauma. In the midst of that it truly feels like there is no way out- it's all encompassing. Conversely for victims who don't end up with PTSD or significant mental anguish, it may make them question if their experience was actually valid, or wonder if there is something wrong with them if they don't respond in the expected way. They will be much less likely to press charges, which is obviously bad for society as a whole. And victims who comply with their attackers and don't fight back may feel complicit- even though it's been proven that this improves your chances of survival and serious injury, especially in stranger attacks. But if rape is a fate worse than death, then there is an implicit expectation that the victim should fight to the death in order to avoid it. This attitude is reflected in law's all over the world even today, even in what we consider progressive, enlightened countries. In Germany for example, a charge of rape required evidence that the victim physically fought back and was overcome by force until July of 2016! And it took the horrific and largely unpunished public assaults in Cologne before new legislation was even considered. There's also the fact that so much of the psychological damage from rape and sexual abuse is related to shame. That shame stems from the idea that being raped makes you "damaged goods", which is an attitude inflicted by culture and not intrinsic to the crime itself. See for example what happened to Elizabeth Smart- while she was held captive she actually heard people searching for her and could have been rescued. But because she had been raped- and because she grew up with the message that sex makes a girl like a "chewed up piece of gum" (these were the actual words used by her abstinence only sex-ed teacher)- she didn't respond. Also if you look at how rape victims are treated in some cultures- how they literally are cast out of villages and treated like lepers, even killed- you can see how that kind of framing is quite damaging to victims. Looking back at the history of how rape has been regarded by society, it becomes a bit more clear where this attitude originates. One of the first known examples of rape being viewed as a crime is early Babylonia. It was seen as a property crime against the husband of the victim. The punishment involved binding the victim to her rapist and throwing them both into the river to drown. The husband was seen as the victim because rape violated his exclusive sexual access to his wife, and her chastity. This attitude of rape as a property crime persisted throughout history and into early common law which designated rape as a "crime against nature”-the natural order of things being a husband's ownership of his wife. When criminal statutes were implemented in the Americas, the common law conception of rape was imported into the legal code, but the harshest punishment for rape was in Confederate States. This was largely due to the racially based fears of white women being defiled-and thus ruined- by black men. And today the harshest sanctions against rape, including death, are seen in the very cultures where women are the most oppressed. It isn't because women are valued- quite the contrary, these are usually the same cultures that ostracize or even punish victims, hearkening back to ancient Babylonia. And these are the same cultures where the idea of rape as worse than death is most firmly rooted. Here's an example, from Yemen (http://newsandletters.org/to-yemenis-rape-is-worse-than-death/) "I would rather she died than be raped,” said Um Ahmed Alam angrily. A woman in her fifties, she fears the chaos the country will suffer if civil war breaks out in Yemen. Her fear of sexual harassment is bigger than her fear of losing any of her four daughters. “Death is death, we all will die eventually, but the shame of rape is what we cannot handle,” she said sadly. ... Mothers have begun to exchange advice on how to protect their daughters from rape if the country slips into civil war. “I would kill my daughter with my bare hands if this happened,” said Alam’s husband, even though he acknowledged that the girl would be the victim in this situation. Consider the fact that people only say things like this about sexual violence. Survivors of horrible car accidents, combat, violent attacks that aren't sexually motivated etc. All are likely to have PTSD, but you really never hear it suggested that they might have been better off if they hadn't survived unless they emerge with so much physical damage that their quality of life is next to nothing. So that leads me to question what it is about rape that is so different? The trauma that most often manifests as PTSD is the fear of death from having your body is completely under the control of someone with intent to cause harm, but that's really no different than what someone experiences being mugged or beaten. That's not to say it's the same-having your body integrity violated for someone else's pleasure is sickening and there is something especially horrific about the up close and personal nature of sexual trauma-the smell, the taste, the sheer proximity of another human being who is terrifying and revolting- that stays with you in a way that other forms of trauma may not. But from my experience and what I've heard from others, it's the feelings of shame that cause the most mental suffering. And that is entirely a byproduct of culture and socialization rooted in really archaic concepts of intrinsic human worth and identity. For children, innocence. For women, purity and chastity. For men, strength and virility. Sexual assault feels like an annihilation of what we are conditioned to value the most. The child is robbed of innocence, the woman is defiled and forever tainted, the man becomes a weak and submissive victim. In a culture where these traits are seen as the crucial elements of personhood, the act takes on a greater power than the crime itself. Attempts to recover are then rendered futile- those who have been raped are already the “living dead.” Sorry to write a book- and again I understand what you are trying to say and I believe it is well intentioned, I just really disagree with this concept and I've been personally fucked up by it.There has to be a balance between making sure justice is done for victims sexual violence without reinforcing the very beliefs that cause mental suffering in the first place.

  • Landen Lubowitz

    This is a big post. If you are lazy, read at least the 13 subtitles. Those might make you read the rest. This is a text in progress. If you post a comment with another strong point, I might add it with credits to you, if you are the original author or alternatively to him. We are a pattern of organization of a bunch of atoms that, by pure environmental circumstances and chance, gained conscience; it would be astonishing that, only because of this awareness, we were destined for a greater fate than the other common bunch of atoms. We are going to return to our natural state, our only real "permanent home", where we already spent almost an eternity (see https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1432165.msg17423455#msg17423455), before being born: nothingness. There is no use to invent a helping imaginary "friend" who will offer you immortality. It's absurd to ruin your life (a lucky but tiny oasis of awareness that exists between two almost infinite deserts of nothingness) by following absurd or immoral rules invented by primitive people of the Bronze Age which have no relation whatsoever with the happiness of other people. Face your destiny in the eyes and live proud for having no leach, but the one imposed by your fellow human beings organized as a society (supposedly) for the benefice of all. However, I don't have anything against a sincere believer. You are my fellow human being who share with me our finite condition. You just found a different (erroneous, from my perspective) way to deal with it. The arguments presented were written thinking on the three main monotheist religions and, especially, Christianism. But most of them apply also to all other religions. My goal isn't offending you, but just to induce you to question the roots and logic of your faith. I also don't really want to convince you to be an atheist, but just a skeptical or, at least, someone with doubts. There isn't anything more dangerous for you, and for others, than you being absolutely certain about something like your religious beliefs. Those absolute beliefs can change completely your philosophy, Ethics and life goals and not for the good. It's when religious people start being fanatics. They know the "truth", so, from my perspective, they are literally deadly wrong. It's when they are ready to start killing themselves or others for their beliefs or, at least, persecute people with different beliefs or without religious beliefs. As long as you have doubts, you can say you are still a religious person, but you will be a safer person for yourself and for others. In reality, you will live this life like if it was the only one you have (see point 11). You will give it more value and will be more tolerant with others. 1) God is a human creation. All the hundreds of religions/sects and their multiple absolute contradictions seem to be plenty evidence that all gods are human creations. The same conclusion can be based on the known influences of ancient myths and religions on the current main religions [the flood, the virgin birth, the resurrection after 3 days, Christmas day, Sunday (day of the Sun, the roman god Sol Invictus) as the holiday and not the Sabbath, etc.]. Gods are just one of the illusions mankind uses in order to be able to deal with the conscience of the inevitability of death. Humans created a god and an afterlife mainly (this also stimulate cooperation and obedience) because they feel anguish about dying. (Freud, Thoughts for the times on war and death, 1915, Part II) Even in the religions that claim to worship the same god, the contradictions are overwhelming. As you know, both Christians and Muslims say they worship the Torah's god, Yahweh. Islam says Jesus was an important prophet, but not the son of god. And Christians simple reject that Muhammad was a prophet. But the Qur'an says that its god is the god that sent Abraham, Moses and Jesus. But Yahweh initially was just a god in the middle of others. Most Jews, even during David times (about 1000 BC) and after, kept praying to other gods of the Canaanites (Semitic people comprising the Phoenicians, the Jews and some other peoples of the Levant). There is controversy, but Yahweh has been identified with EL, the supreme god of the Canaanites, that had one or two wives and an extensive number of sons (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/El(deity)#HebrewBible). Or, initially, with one of his sons: sometimes, Baal (the confusion was easy, because Baal means Lord; clearly, later, the Torah fights this identification, by ridiculing Baal), sometimes Hadad, sometimes a different son. In some of the Jewish holy books, we can still find several traces of this evolution, with references to a council of the gods presided by EL/Yahweh (Psalm 82:1 and 6; 1 Kings 22:19) or to different gods (Deuteronomy 32:8–9) (see, a summary in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Divine_Council#Hebrew). Well, the Greeks were influenced by the Phoenicians and copied their gods, with different names. El was Uranus, the father of all gods (or sometimes Cronus, since some mythology says El was not the original god, but rather Elioun), that was deposed by his son, Cronus. Cronus was deposed by Zeus. The Romans used the same Gods (Caelus as Uranus; Saturn as Cronus and Jupiter as Zeus). So, are the believers on the three main religions praying to Uranus (Caelus) or even to Cronus (Saturn)? But, even if they are considered the same god, just compare the vengeful and jealous god of the Torah with the loving and forgiven god invented by Jesus. The contradictions are so big between them that some scholars (like Marcion of Sinope: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcionism) and christian sects (like the Gnostics: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gnosticism#Dualismandmonism) even defended that Yahweh, the Torah's god, was a different god or even the devil. Some of the most fracturing religious issues, like the so-called divine nature of Jesus, or its degree, divided drastically Christians and were finally settled by bishops on majority voting, under pressure from Constantine to reach an agreement. If Constantine, as roman emperor, was considered divine, how could Jesus be less than him? Of course, we can't find any evidence on the Gospels for that (not even on John's Gospel), but they couldn't care less for this detail. Most Christian churches defend the Trinity, that the father, the son (Jesus) and the holy ghost are not exactly one and the same, but are part of god. But these churches argue that this is perfectly compatible with a monotheism. Basically, Jesus on the Olive Garden and on the Cross wasn't exactly talking with him self, but something similar. Ancient Greeks could argue that they also had a father, Uranus/Cronus/Zeus, and their sons and parents, all part of a divine family. That the difference was of grade, and not nature, and so that they too were basically monotheists in this flexible sense, because they too had a supreme god, he just had a bigger family. But what all these contradictions, but also influences and slow evolution, point out is that gods are a human creation. With all these different gods and interpretations, are all the believers on different religions or sects lying or mistaken, but you? 2) There are fundamental issues about which we still don't know enough, but ignorance isn't reason to believe in any god. We still don't know what is the ultimate origin of the source of the "physical stuff" that composes the Universe, the quantum fields that created all matter (see https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1221052.msg14388816#msg14388816 on the theory of a Universe from nothing), or even the exact mechanism that created life from matter, but our ancestors also said that the gods were the creators of thunders and lightening. Actually, none of the main religions says what was his god's origin. 3) Religious books are full of immoral rules. Some of those are so hideous that they can't seriously be considered the word of a god. For instance, "for I, the LORD your God, am a jealous God, punishing the children for the sin of the parents to the third and fourth generation of those who hate me". Exodus, 20.5.

  • Josiane Huel

    > This to me though seems like borderline slavery and human trafficking. ... maybe. There's a lot of value judgments woven into the way this information is presented and excerpted. It comes from William Hinton's [Fanshen: A Documentary of Revolution in a Chinese Village](https://books.google.com/books?id=-QYGtfZI2w8C&pg=PA61#v=onepage&q&f=false) (1966; p. 61). Hinton conducted his research in 1948, supported by two young translators, both hand-picked by a prominent Communist Party member (Fan Wen-Lan, also a historian and then the president of the Northern University) and one of whom Hinton described as 'an ardent supporter of the Revolution'. Hinton arranged his research through a local District Administrator, who picked the peasants that he would interview and then sent armed guards to accompany him. So all of Hinton's work was filtered through his two translators, carefully supervised by Party members, and accompanied by the threat of armed violence. At the same time, Hinton was also deeply sympathetic to the goals of the Communist Party, although his viewpoints would change later in life (see his [obituary](http://www.nytimes.com/2004/05/22/world/william-hinton-author-85-studied-chinese-village-life.html)). With these factors in mind, his descriptions must be read with extreme caution. To begin with, it's worth noting that Hinton precedes this passage with a discussion of famine and infanticide: > Because the peasants lived from year to year on the verge of starvation and in bad years often died themselves, it was impossible for them to raise all their children. Boys, when they grew up, stayed home to help support their parents. Therefore every effort was made to save them. But girls, after 12 years of feeding, could only be sold for a few bags of grain, or given in marriage for the equivalent of a few dollars. Therefore in times of distress girl children were sometime abandoned or even killed at birth. The orphanage in Long Bow was built specifically to care for such abandoned children. This gives us a very different impression of what was happening. We're not actually talking about the big-C Church and some coordinated recruitment plan, exploiting people so that the Church can acquire wealth. We're talking about a few particular Dutch Franciscans, who were reacting to a situation that they considered unacceptable and were trying to save lives that would otherwise be lost. Hinton continues: > From picking up babies in the streets and fields, the custom developed of accepting babies directly from their parents, or even of paying modest sums for girl children in order to encourage their mothers to part with them. Notice Hinton's careful phrasing—Hinton stops talking about what people were doing and starts talking about how 'custom' was changing. This lets him avoid explicitly stating that, given the choice, poor and starving peasants would rather give their children to the Franciscan orphanage than abandon them in a field. Hinton smoothly suppresses this evidence of peasant complicity and moves right into claims of coercion by the Church—somebody (and Hinton doesn't actually specify whom; this passage is built on implications) is now giving money to these families who, on the brink of starvation, were being driven to abandon their children. Hinton treats this as a transaction and calls it a payment. It's hard to know whether this is just Hinton's wording, his translators' choice, or the peasants who were being watched by armed guards and probably saying what they thought they were expected to say. But I suspect that coming from a very different perspective, the Dutch Franciscans might have called these 'payments' something different, like charity or alms. This brings us to the passage posted by OP, which I think we're now in a better position to read more critically. Hinton reinforces his allusion to payments by now calling the abandoned infants the 'property' of the orphanage—again, reflecting the Marxist language that may derive from Hinton himself, his university translators, or the peasants being scrutinized by government gunmen. It's hard to believe that the Franciscans actually considered these infants—whom they took the initiative to save—as little more than objects of property. The proof, I think, comes in the second half of that first sentence: 'the infants were farmed out to wet nurses, in some cases their own mothers, until old enough to eat millet'. Hinton's choice of the word 'farmed' reinforces the impression that these children are being treated as livestock, but look at what's actually happening. Families who don't foresee a way to feed their children decide to give them to an orphanage rather than abandoning them in a field. Not only do the Franciscans in charge of these orphanages give these families a bit of money to get by on, but they also ask that the families keep their infants until they actually become a burden to feed. This would foster family relationships, perhaps offer families a chance to keep their children if their circumstances improved, and must have seemed at least a small mercy to mothers suffering from postpartum depression. Hinton's language hinders us from thinking through these circumstances. Now that Hinton has primed his readers to believe that this small-town orphanage is really a wicked arm of the Church, he proceeds to talk about how these girls needed to work and were married at a young age. Again, his word-choice makes this all seem little better than slavery, but it deflects attention from what was actually going on. In the longer passage I quoted above, Hinton acknowledges that girls were seen as unproductive and would be sold in their early teens for a few bags of grain. The Franciscans were demonstrating that young girls could be productive members of society—which they probably already were, given that even in times of famine adolescent girls were still worth a few bags of grain. The implication I draw from this is that the Franciscans were demanding little different from these girls than their families would have—if they could have fed them—but that the girls coming out of these orphanages were seen as especially industrious individuals. Moreover, these industrious individuals ended up being wed—keeping in mind that their families would have also 'sold' them at a similar age—to men who were probably on the brink of desperation themselves, men who were willing to commit to a new faith in order to bring another worker into the house and who may have been unable to afford a full-priced non-Catholic bride. Since Hinton describes a society where female infanticide presumably led to an imbalance of marriageable men, it's likely that there was a very real societal need for the women whom this orphanage was saving. Hinton's point in this passage, I think, is twofold. He shows that (1) that China was in need of agricultural reform, and (2) Western institutions were using Chinese agricultural weaknesses to promote Western ideologies. This is a cookie-cutter example of a Marxist history: false ideologies (Catholicism) mask the material conditions of production (the Church buying and selling children to amass capital). But a closer read of the passage and careful consideration of who the author was and where his information was coming from encourages us to consider a different perspective. Peasants were indeed desperate, but they were willingly converting from their old customs to seek relief from Catholic orphanages, which representatives of the Communist Party wanted to portray as symbols of Western imperialism. (Hinton actually introduces this chapter with a discussion of the Boxer Rebellion and claims that the Catholic missionary efforts were funded by indemnity money, so that seems to be the bent of his overall work as a whole.)

  • Christophe Streich

    http://www.english.illinois.edu/maps/poets/s_z/whitman/song.htm I CELEBRATE myself, and sing myself, And what I assume you shall assume, For every atom belonging to me as good belongs to you. I loafe and invite my soul, I lean and loafe at my ease observing a spear of summer grass. My tongue, every atom of my blood, form'd from this soil, this air, Born here of parents born here from parents the same, and their parents the same, I, now thirty-seven years old in perfect health begin, Hoping to cease not till death. Creeds and schools in abeyance, Retiring back a while sufficed at what they are, but never forgotten, I harbor for good or bad, I permit to speak at every hazard, Nature without check with original energy. 2 Houses and rooms are full of perfumes, the shelves are crowded with perfumes, I breathe the fragrance myself and know it and like it, The distillation would intoxicate me also, but I shall not let it. The atmosphere is not a perfume, it has no taste of the distillation, it is odorless, It is for my mouth forever, I am in love with it, I will go to the bank by the wood and become undisguised and naked, I am mad for it to be in contact with me. The smoke of my own breath, Echoes, ripples, buzz'd whispers, love-root, silk-thread, crotch and vine, My respiration and inspiration, the beating of my heart, the passing of blood and air through my lungs, The sniff of green leaves and dry leaves, and of the shore and dark-color'd sea-rocks, and of hay in the barn, The sound of the belch'd words of my voice loos'd to the eddies of the wind, A few light kisses, a few embraces, a reaching around of arms, The play of shine and shade on the trees as the supple boughs wag, The delight alone or in the rush of the streets, or along the fields and hill-sides, The feeling of health, the full-noon trill, the song of me rising from bed and meeting the sun. Have you reckon'd a thousand acres much? have you reckon'd the earth much? Have you practis'd so long to learn to read? Have you felt so proud to get at the meaning of poems? Stop this day and night with me and you shall possess the origin of all poems, You shall possess the good of the earth and sun, (there are millions of suns left,) You shall no longer take things at second or third hand, nor look through the eyes of the dead, nor feed on the spectres in books, You shall not look through my eyes either, nor take things from me, You shall listen to all sides and filter them from your self. 3 I have heard what the talkers were talking, the talk of the beginning and the end, But I do not talk of the beginning or the end. There was never any more inception than there is now, Nor any more youth or age than there is now, And will never be any more perfection than there is now, Nor any more heaven or hell than there is now. Urge and urge and urge, Always the procreant urge of the world. Out of the dimness opposite equals advance, always substance and increase, always sex, Always a knit of identity, always distinction, always a breed of life. To elaborate is no avail, learn'd and unlearn'd feel that it is so. Sure as the most certain sure, plumb in the uprights, well entretied, braced in the beams, Stout as a horse, affectionate, haughty, electrical, I and this mystery here we stand. Clear and sweet is my soul, and clear and sweet is all that is not my soul. Lack one lacks both, and the unseen is proved by the seen, Till that becomes unseen and receives proof in its turn. Showing the best and dividing it from the worst age vexes age, Knowing the perfect fitness and equanimity of things, while they discuss I am silent, and go bathe and admire myself. Welcome is every organ and attribute of me, and of any man hearty and clean, Not an inch nor a particle of an inch is vile, and none shall be less familiar than the rest. I am satisfied — I see, dance, laugh, sing; As the hugging and loving bed-fellow sleeps at my side through the night, and withdraws at the peep of the day with stealthy tread, Leaving me baskets cover'd with white towels swelling the house with their plenty, Shall I postpone my acceptation and realization and scream at my eyes, That they turn from gazing after and down the road, And forthwith cipher and show me to a cent, Exactly the value of one and exactly the value of two, and which is ahead? 4 Trippers and askers surround me, People I meet, the effect upon me of my early life or the ward and city I live in, or the nation, The latest dates, discoveries, inventions, societies, authors old and new, My dinner, dress, associates, looks, compliments, dues, The real or fancied indifference of some man or woman I love, The sickness of one of my folks or of myself, or ill-doing or loss or lack of money, or depressions or exaltations, Battles, the horrors of fratricidal war, the fever of doubtful news, the fitful events; These come to me days and nights and go from me again, But they are not the Me myself. Apart from the pulling and hauling stands what I am, Stands amused, complacent, compassionating, idle, unitary, Looks down, is erect, or bends an arm on an impalpable certain rest, Looking with side-curved head curious what will come next, Both in and out of the game and watching and wondering at it. Backward I see in my own days where I sweated through fog with linguists and contenders, I have no mockings or arguments, I witness and wait. 5 I believe in you my soul, the other I am must not abase itself to you, And you must not be abased to the other. Loafe with me on the grass, loose the stop from your throat, Not words, not music or rhyme I want, not custom or lecture, not even the best, Only the lull I like, the hum of your valved voice. I mind how once we lay such a transparent summer morning, How you settled your head athwart my hips and gently turn'd over upon me, And parted the shirt from my bosom-bone, and plunged your tongue to my bare-stript heart, And reach'd till you felt my beard, and reach'd till you held my feet. Swiftly arose and spread around me the peace and knowledge that pass all the argument of the earth, And I know that the hand of God is the promise of my own, And I know that the spirit of God is the brother of my own, And that all the men ever born are also my brothers, and the women my sisters and lovers, And that a kelson of the creation is love, And limitless are leaves stiff or drooping in the fields, And brown ants in the little wells beneath them, And mossy scabs of the worm fence, heap'd stones, elder, mullein and poke-weed. 6 A child said What is the grass? fetching it to me with full hands, How could I answer the child? I do not know what it is any more than he. I guess it must be the flag of my disposition, out of hopeful green stuff woven. Or I guess it is the handkerchief of the Lord, A scented gift and remembrancer designedly dropt, Bearing the owner's name someway in the corners, that we may see and remark, and say Whose? Or I guess the grass is itself a child, the produced babe of the vegetation. Or I guess it is a uniform hieroglyphic, And it means, Sprouting alike in broad zones and narrow zones, Growing among black folks as among white, Kanuck, Tuckahoe, Congressman, Cuff, I give them the same, I receive them the same. And now it seems to me the beautiful uncut hair of graves. Tenderly will I use you curling grass, It may be you transpire from the breasts of young men, It may be if I had known them I would have loved them, It may be you are from old people, or from offspring taken soon out of their mothers' laps, And here you are the mothers' laps. This grass is very dark to be from the white heads of old mothers, Darker than the colourless beards of old men, Dark to come from under the faint red roofs of mouths. O I perceive after all so many uttering tongues, And I perceive they do not come from the roofs of mouths for nothing. I wish I could translate the hints about the dead young men and women, And the hints about old men and mothers, and the offspring taken soon out of their laps. What do you think has become of the young and old men? And what do you think has become of the women and children? They are alive and well somewhere, The smallest sprout shows there is really no death, And if ever there was it led forward life, and does not wait at the end to arrest it, And ceas'd the moment life appear'd. All goes onward and outward, nothing collapses, And to die is different from what any one supposed, and luckier. 7 Has any one supposed it lucky to be born? I hasten to inform him or her it is just as lucky to die, and I know it. <continued on the site>

  • Otilia Hessel

    "When President Lyndon Johnson in 1964 launched the so-called War on Poverty, which enacted an unprecedented amount of antipoverty legislation and added many new layers to the American welfare state, he explained that his objective was to reduce dependency, “break the cycle of poverty,” and make “taxpayers out of tax eaters.” Johnson further claimed that his programs would bring to an end the “conditions that breed despair and violence,” those being “ignorance, discrimination, slums, poverty, disease, not enough jobs.” Of particular concern to Johnson was the disproportionately high rate of black poverty. In a famous June 1965 speech, the president suggested that the problems plaguing black Americans could not be solved by self-help: “You do not take a person who, for years, has been hobbled by chains and liberate him, bring him up to the starting line in a race and then say, 'you are free to compete with all the others,'” said Johnson. Thus began modern liberalism's vicious and unrelenting assault on black Americans. Dressed up as “compassion” and “social justice,” this assault took the form of an unprecedented commitment of federal funds to a wide range of measures aimed at redistributing wealth in the United States. Since 1965, more than $22 trillion of taxpayer money (in constant 2012 dollars) has been spent on means-tested welfare programs for the poor. The economic milieu in which the War on Poverty arose is noteworthy. As of 1965, the number of Americans living below the official poverty line had been declining continuously since the beginning of the decade and was only about half of what it had been fifteen years earlier. Between 1950 and 1965, the proportion of people whose earnings put them below the poverty level, had decreased by more than 30%. The black poverty rate in particular had been cut nearly in half between 1940 and 1960. And in various skilled trades during the period of 1936-59, the incomes of blacks relative to those of whites had more than doubled. Despite these trends, the welfare state expanded dramatically after LBJ's statement. Between the mid-Sixties and the mid-Seventies, the dollar value of public housing quintupled and the amount spent on food stamps rose more than tenfold. From 1965-69, government-provided benefits increased by a factor of 8; by 1974 such benefits were an astounding 20 times higher than they had been in 1965. Also as of 1974, federal spending on social-welfare programs amounted to 16% of America’s Gross National Product, a far cry from the 8% figure of 1960. By 1977 the number of people receiving public assistance had more than doubled since 1960. The most devastating by-product of the mushrooming welfare state was the corrosive effect it had on American family life, particularly in the black community. As provisions in welfare laws offered ever-increasing economic incentives for shunning marriage and avoiding the formation of two-parent families, illegitimacy rates rose dramatically. For the next few decades, means-tested welfare programs such as food stamps, public housing, Medicaid, day care, and Temporary Assistance to Needy Families penalized marriage. A mother generally received far more money from welfare if she was single rather than married. Once she took a husband, her benefits were instantly reduced by roughly 10 to 20 percent. As a Cato Institute study noted, welfare programs for the poor incentivize the very behaviors that are most likely to perpetuate poverty. Another Cato report observed ... The marriage penalties that are embedded in welfare programs can be particularly severe if a woman on public assistance weds a man who is employed in a low-paying job. As a FamilyScholars.org report puts it: “When a couple's income nears the limits prescribed by Medicaid, a few extra dollars in income cause thousands of dollars in benefits to be lost. What all of this means is that the two most important routes out of poverty—marriage and work—are heavily taxed under the current U.S. system.”... The results of welfare policies discouraging marriage and family were dramatic, as out-of-wedlock birthrates skyrocketed among all demographic groups in the U.S., but most notably African Americans. In the mid-1960s, the out-of-wedlock birth rate was scarcely 3% for whites, 7.7% for Americans overall, and 24.5% among blacks. By 1976, those figures had risen to nearly 10% for whites, 24.7% for Americans as a whole, and 50.3% for blacks specifically. And today, the numbers stand at 29% for whites, 41% for the nation overall, and 73% for blacks. In other words, the entire country is moving rapidly in the wrong direction, but blacks in particular have reached a point of veritable catastrophe. The devastating societal consequences of family breakdown cannot be overstated. Father-absent families—black and white alike—generally occupy the bottom rung of America's economic ladder. Regardless of race or ethnicity, the poverty rate for single parents with children is several times higher than the corresponding rate for married couples with children. According to Robert Rector, senior research fellow with the Heritage Foundation, “the absence of marriage increases the frequency of child poverty 700 percent” and thus constitutes the single most reliable predictor of a self-perpetuating underclass. Articulating a similar theme many years ago, Martin Luther King, Jr. said, “Nothing is so much needed as a secure family life for a people to pull themselves out of poverty.”..."- How the liberal welfare state destroyed black america - John perazzo May 5, 2016 "Read through the megazillion words on class, income mobility, and poverty in the recent New York Times series “Class Matters” and you still won’t grasp two of the most basic truths on the subject: 1. entrenched, multigenerational poverty is largely black; and 2. it is intricately intertwined with the collapse of the nuclear family in the inner city. By now, these facts shouldn’t be hard to grasp. Almost 70 percent of black children are born to single mothers. Those mothers are far more likely than married mothers to be poor, even after a post-welfare-reform decline in child poverty. They are also more likely to pass that poverty on to their children. Sophisticates often try to dodge the implications of this bleak reality by shrugging that single motherhood is an inescapable fact of modern life, affecting everyone from the bobo Murphy Browns to the ghetto “baby mamas.” Not so; it is a largely low-income—and disproportionately black—phenomenon. The vast majority of higher-income women wait to have their children until they are married. The truth is that we are now a two-family nation, separate and unequal—one thriving and intact, and the other struggling, broken, and far too often African-American. ..." - Kay S. Hymowitz, The Black Family: 40 years of lies - City Journal Summer 2005 See also How the great society "destroyed the American family" - Daniel Patrick Moynihan - National Affairs Issue 108 - Summer 1992 Please stop helping US: How Liberals make it harder for Blacks to succeed - Jason L Riley - June 17, 2014 - Encounter books

  • Dolores Mohr

    >You're the one that's lying by omission. The context of the blocking statement is in a paragraph specifically talking about the battle at Charum Hakkor, near the very end of the war. Context matters. Context indeed does matter, which is why the discussion of the interstellar value of slipspace and the reality of the Forerunner's blocking reinforcements means you are wrong. It's called reflection, and just because it's in a paragraph talking about the battle of Charum Hakkor does not mean that it is only applicable to that scene. Otherwise Hakkor was getting reinforcements from nowhere, as it was the last stronghold of Ancient Human forces by that point. >Do you know ANYTHING about guerrilla warfare? Furthermore a lot of what you said is unsubstantiated nonsense as well. I know about Guerrilla Warfare as much as anyone with a good degree of common sense does, which is why I'm not wasting my time with your inane drivel. It's both hilarious and wrong. >The Didact had to send his own children into dangerous battles. Clearly conserving forces was not an option. Are you that stupid or just pretending to be to spite me? Having to send your forces into battle does not exclude the possibility of being conservative about it... >Of course there's context. The context is that you stated that the Forerunners should leave some sentinels and a single Fortress class warship to guard each human planet once their warships are destroyed. Are you so forgetful that you can't remember your own key arguments? No, I remember that very well. You're question however was not specific on who "them" was. If you are meaning Ancient Humans, then it would be a waste of ships because these vessels would be taken away from the defensive actions of the most crucial worlds vulnerable to the Didact's star-hopping strategy, all in order to secure worthless worlds that offer no return value to the war effort once the Forerunner's have been able to pin-point destroy vital industries from orbit. For example, you are in kind arguing for a case to be made for the Third Reich to send an entire Battalion to liberate a German town dozens of miles from Berlin whilst the Red Army and allies encroach upon Berlin and other key cities. Does a town of 1000 potentially boost German forces? Sure. Will it do much? What do you think? Was it worth not having a battalion near Berlin as the enemy pushed in farther? *What do you think.* Spoiler: The answer to both is no. In fact, once a certain threshold had been crossed in the war, the Forerunner's wouldn't even need to leave any forces around these human worlds. Passed the point where human forces are stretched so thin, human industries a shadow of their former selves and the ability to coordinate the interstellar logistics of war time materials basically screwed to fuck, these defenceless human worlds woudl be a non-issue. >Except a small number of warships engaging in hit-and-run attacks behind Forerunner lines is going to tie up a much larger force than if it simply tried to hold the line against superior Forerunner forces. 10 Human warships will not make a difference in a massive fleet battle of hundreds of capital ships, but it will make a huge difference if it threatens Forerunner civilian worlds with genocide. The Forerunners would have to commit much larger forces to locate and quickly destroy the 10 human warships, whereas in a massive space battle 10 human warships would only be a small percentage increase in their strength, and therefore much less relevant. The Forerunner's war effort would be quite insulated from these actions. They have 3 million worlds and Ancient Humans were unable to get anywhere near their core worlds. Ancient Humans can continue to burn outlying Forerunner worlds, and it wouldn't change a thing - the Forerunner are still going to win. Additionally, the large extent of space means that finding Forerunner worlds will take time. This would be a completely pointless action with no return, and would only serve to anger the Forerunner even more thus ensuring that their terms of defeat for humanity will be even stricter, so those ships are actually better spent defending against the Forerunner advance into human space. In a war that you are loosing, every ship does count. >That's the thing though. You're not actually refuting anything. You THINK you're refuting things because of your abject ignorance on the topic of asymmetrical warfare, combined with your complete unwillingness to learn. It's quite sad really. You might actually be more stubborn in perpetuating your own ignorance than Trump supporters. Said the pot into the mirror. >I mean, it's literally the official description of the book. "official, comprehensive, authoritative guide to the Halo universe". How you can find any room for interpretation on this matter is beyond my mortal understanding. Because all these guide books carry the same hype, including the original Halo Encyclopaedia. If 343i have said that this is to be taken over any other interpretations of other canonical sources then I'll concede the point. Otherwise in my view it's as valid as the Forerunner novels themselves. >So a nation that doesn't actively prevent wars is oppressive? Nice strawman. A nation that doesn't attempt a strategy of Détente and stability and jumps straight into genocide, forced eugenics, collective punishment and suppression of individual liberties is certainly oppressive and agenda driven. >Forced integration is very much a human rights violation. As a Canadian I know this too well. It's a stain on our history. If the only alternative to one human rights violation is another, then...seems like the Forerunners don't really have a way out. If you mean to equate the immorality of forced integration, to what the Forerunners did to the Ancient Humans and San-Shyuum, then sure. However there is no moral equivalence here to me; it is less unethical to go with integration than with genocide and oppression of individual liberties. Forced integration does not necessarily impose any limitations upon the individual, only upon the state and the culture. On the other hand the actions of the Forerunner were devastating to innocent individuals. I'm sure that if offered to pick between forced integration in the kind of West Germany, or complete and total destruction in the kind of Forerunner post-war actions, most people including yourself would choose the former. >So you don't consider forced suppression of culture a gross violation of their rights? At this point you're so hypocritical that I've realized you're not even debating in good faith any more. No, because I'm an individualist and not an Identitarian. If forced to choose, I will always take the option that results in the best outcome for individuals. It's why I find the actions of the Forerunners to be so irredeemable and evil. >May you one day find freedom from the ignorance that you perpetuate for yourself. I appreciate the attempted Mic drop, but you weren't even holding the Mic to begin with.

  • Serena Stracke

    >There was nothing implicitly emotional about this comment. It was explicitly factual. As in facts. "Anyway, with this comment you show an extremely picture book level simplistic understanding of what abortion is, why its done, and how it is done, and I will refer back to my comment about driving for work vs driving for recreation. It doesn't matter the reasons why you engage in a legal activity. You still have the same rights either way." The facts there seem to be you insulting me and you continuing to insist we can do whatever we want while driving. >I'm not offended. You just have to concede that convenience is not an objective phrase. Its subjective. To say carrying a pregnancy to term and birthing a child is merely inconvenient, and that nebulous and negatively connoting measurement being the only rationalle is flat out specious. And you know that. Getting a vaccine update is inconvenient. Updating your registration at the DMV is inconvenient. Giving birth after 9 months of being a host, is something else besides just inconvenient. It's incredibly life-changing, personal and impacts entire families not just the women who are pregnant. And you know it. You're absolutely right. You know what else is more than inconvenient? A human life. Maybe it deserves an appropriate level of concern. >See, this is you being sarcastic. Is it just inconvenient or is it a catastrophe? It could be either one for different people. It sure was catastrophic for plenty of people before roe vs wade. Why do you have to make it some ridiculous black/white comic book? I meant it as a rhetorical question and not sarcastically. My point was that if it's going to be catastrophic for you then you should appropriate precaution. >How many times have you had sex vs. how many children do you have? Just curious. Not entirely sure how this is relevant but 0 for both. I mean yea I suppose it's easier for me to take my stance as is. >WTF? So you think people who are in danger of their lives for exercising their freedom, should be shamed for having the courage to do something they want to do - but - only - only in the case of abortion right? If two teenagers were doing it and planning to have a baby it would be okay for you right? What if they planned to have one then circumstances changed? It seems like you want to be the personal judge of everyone's lives. Shall we enlist you the judge of the sex court? What are your legal qualifications again? I value human life above the freedom to have sex. Disagree? That seems like the value judgement I've been referring to. >Smdh. Yelling "fire" for fun in a theatre is a possible criminal offense because it it is intentionally disorderly conduct which endangers others for no reasons of self defense. I'm not sure if I explained this to you already or not, but the rights of the constitution are THE RULE not the exception. How so? Exactly what are you referring to? It seems like you're being willfully ignorant about this point. In your own words "my argument has been "here is how the rules are applied to all peoples, how do you justify violating it?" Here's me showing again and again how limiting bodily autonomy is one of these many rules that we enforce on all people. There's nothing particularly special or unique or oppressive about it relative to other things we do. >Which one? The one where I explained what a duty to retreat is and how no one has to retreat from something that they cannot remove from their body without force? The self defense argument I made that you never responded to? >Actually, yes, you could, if the would not move and this was your only option to get to safety. If it wasn't my only option, then I could be charged with a number of things, either murder or manslaughter. Again you show a poor understanding of human rights. If someone is drowning and they are grabbing me and pulling me down I absolutely have the right to fight them off, even if that would result in me being saved and them drowning, and even if it was me that said "lets both jump in the rapids." Or even if it was me that pushed us both in. Sure, I might get charged with reckless endangerment for the first act, but the second act no. BTW, switch "rapids" with rock climbing, of which I do on a regular basis btw. Lets say I fall from my lead climb and I pull my partner down the cliff with me. Let's say my partner's weight is so much, that if I keep him on the rope, we'll both die. So its either he dies or is injured, or we both do. He's unconscious btw. So he can't do anything. So I cut the rope and save myself. Also totally legal. Lets also switch that with lets say, a third climber on another rope who falls onto us. Same thing. If he got tangled in our rope, and is pulling us off, we would also be legal to cut him loose. Yes, you absolutely could have an abortion if you're willing to be charged with murder or manslaughter. And absolutely yes, medical abortions are a thing and should be a thing. Which leaves us with everything I've been talking about, the so called "abortions of convenience". >You strawmanned my analogy. The analogy did not include a thrid person. And no actually, it wouldn't be necessarily. You need to read more about the law. Certainly the victim would have a right to sue, but if it was the choice between a cliff and hitting a person - it really depends on the lawyer, the judge, the state and the jury and the circumstances that lead that driver and that person there. If the driver was breaking the law, then 100% it would be manslaughter. If the person was jumping in and out of traffic - the driver would not be charged. If both were following the law, and the person and the driver both had to jump out of the way of a landslide - and the driver had to choose between hitting the person and going off the cliff -nope - not manslaughter. There's no third person in my analogy so you've misunderstood something there. It seems you're saying it's a pretty complex issue and that proper response is to consider the relevant factors to make a decision? Aren't you the one that hates the idea of a morality court judging women's situations. >Not in cases of self defense where you have no ability to retreat any further. And all parties are innocent until proven guilty. To take a previous right away from the entire populace, you have to prove that it is a "guilty-worthy" action. To do that you have to use existing jurisprudence and/or a very very strong argument that you can take away an already existing constitutional right such as the right to self defense. It would be really useful to respond to my self defense argument at this time. >I already explained to you, in about half a dozen different ways. I listed to you the Amendments, for which you are welcome to read. I listed to you the difference between justifiable homicide and murder, I explained the rights to the body, I explained how there is no such thing that is even remotely equivalent on the books that would be equivalent to removing abortion as a legal procedure. And I've refuted the half a dozen ways, although you obviously disagree. >No you havent. You've strawmanned, misread and demonstrated a very poor level understanding of how government and laws work, in fact what even legal concepts are. Okay, after I did all this, I think Im done. I honestly don't think there is anything more you can say that isn't a repeat of something you've already said to me. But I did ask you some very specific questions, so maybe you can answer them? Think you mentioned something like this, saying something doesn't make it so?

  • Daphnee Kerluke

    I think his point is, and it's a fair one, a lot of people don't currently have the mindset that they *can* do these things. That they can be creative, be artists, be makers. Sir Ken Robinson has [spoken](https://youtu.be/iG9CE55wbtY) about how 'modern' education across the western world focuses on training such things out of students. That's several generations of people now, who have been taught to shut up, sit down, and work in the factory. Go to the office. Conform, be good, don't let loose or waste your life on flights of fancy. And those generations have their own children and grandchildren who have gone through the same thing. How many people put in their 40-50 hours a week at a job they hate, another 5 or 10 hours traveling to and from it. Do their chores, their shopping, then collapse in front of the tv. These days maybe the computer for Reddit or Youtube or Twitch. Week after week, month after month, years. Decades now in many cases. Modern civilization has done a remarkable job of beating a lot of creativity out of people. The most creative typical 'free spirits' often get is wanting to be 'famous', so they try to get on the tv talent shows, or become a Youtuber or Twitch streamer. What do their parents, their *friends*, say when someone remarks "Gee, I wish I could just paint. I want to start dancing. I want to sculpt, act, perform, create. I want to live." "But you need a job. You have rent. You gotta buy food. Don't be foolish. Don't throw your life away. Be real, be serious. Don't buy into the fallacy of art and culture. Go into science to make money, not explore and discover. Don't waste your time on shit that doesn't pay you." Parents are the worst at this. Everything's about money. Elon's definitely right that we're approaching a radical shift. Few political systems (governments) in the world seem to recognize this. Fewer still are even actively trying to test and address how to adapt to it. UBI isn't about "free money", it's about post scarcity. When a robot can build the houses and stores, grow the food, make the goods, deliver and dole out all of it to the populace ... that's post scarcity. Human economic value systems have traditionally arisen from scarcity. There's only so much food, because there are only so many farmers, so many laborers, so many delivery drivers, shopkeepers, construction workers to build the stores and infrastructure, only so many other workers to supply the construction needs, and so on. To encourage and induce society's members to participate in maintaining all these processes, a lot of "work or die" attitudes have settled in over the centuries. In very scarce economies, when there actually wasn't enough to go around, that even made a cold amount of sense. If you want to live, participate in the processes. Be part of the solution. These days, it's arguable there is more than enough in many countries, but people are still in scarce-economy mode, so anyone who dares mention something like UBI is accused of "wanting something for nothing." Okay, fine. That's another conversation entirely. But when we enter post scarcity, when it's such a small societal cost to maintain all the processes that support humanity's needs, then it ceases to become anything other than "fuck you" to oppose something like UBI or an analogue. When there is enough food, shelter, heat, everything, for people to have a life ... insisting those who can't hack and plot their way into one of the few jobs remaining should wander off into the wilderness and starve is nothing but "fuck you." Money currently has value because of scarcity. When food and necessary needs are *so cheap* in terms of cost to produce and provide, that's post scarcity. Elon's musing about "what will people find meaning is" demonstrates he's skipped right past all the political moaning over "all these freeloaders, fucking bastards" and is thinking about the actual civilization impacts. The social-life aspects. When you can, truly and literally, chose what **you** do with your life, how do we adapt? When current civilization puts all the emphasis on "conform and participate in the economy", how do its citizens roll into "okay, you have your life back; it's just yours. Do what you want. Be free to explore *life*." Some people, as he mentioned, have placed their entire identity into their job. Into their work within the economy. We've seen it for centuries, where someone will retire, sometimes when they get crippled or disabled or ill, and can't work anymore; and they just sort of waste and fade away. Because they can't recast themselves, shift their mind and identity, into something other than defined solely by their work. Those people, and they're out there, will find post scarcity a very large shock. "What do you mean there's no job for me. What am I supposed to do? Sure I'm fine, I'm not starving, I'm housed and well kept, but what do I **do**?" Others will embrace it. Neil Gaiman invented the Library of Dream in *Sandman*. There's very small section in it, tiny, almost unnoticeable; the stories that have been written. The rest of it, the endless vast expanse of the Library of Dream, is all the stories, all the tales and books and poems and dreams, that are unwritten. That lay fallow in the minds of their would-be authors. What happens when people have to come around to the notion that they can paint, write, act, sculpt, research, construct, explore. When they can devote their lives to living and expressing themselves, rather than grinding their noses and fingers and asses against the wheel of commerce just to survive? Not everyone will be able to adapt, and some will fall away from the rest of us. What happens to society as a whole when so much expression has the freedom and **fruits** to explode. When the painters aren't discouraged from painting, when the coders aren't told to be serious and do something that will get them paid. When the scientists can follow their thoughts, rather than the money. When humans can live for themselves, and make things happen. It's going to be a change that makes the Industrial Revolution, the Information age, even the shift from Hunter-Gatherer to Agricultural, pale in comparison. Think of all that can happen when billions of people are given the basic resources to create. We laud 'special' people like Elon because they were lucky, clever, and fortunate enough to push through their dreams. What happens when the only dreams that don't get pushed are those where the dreamer was just lazy. Sure there will be lazy people; there always will. Those who just pass time and enjoy themselves. No problem, have fun. Be free. But all those other people? That's a lot of dreamers waiting to cut loose. Think of what can be. And they will.

  • Deontae Block

    >Are you fucking kidding me? It wasn't us who invented "Jewish people". Jews themselves know they are people. What do you think all those Jewish organizations are for??? They are people grouped by their culture, not by their race. >ugh... it's useless talking to you. You're just an anarchist who wants anarchy for its own sake so that's why any sort or order or any sort of worldview that does not exist purely to further your own material conditions is "fascism". Have a quote: some useless bullshit That quote is great misconception. The working men actually owns the industries and agriculture all in common and has an active voice in it unlike the capitalist or a fascist one. Material condition frees us and related to the people. That quote is far from the actual human nature and historical examples. From anarchy works Everybody has a sense of self-interest, and the capability to act in a selfish way at other people’s expense. But everyone also has a sense of the needs of those around them, and we are all capable of generous and selfless actions. Human survival depends on generosity. The next time someone tells you a communal, anarchistic society could not work because people are naturally selfish, tell him he should withhold food from his children pending payment, do nothing to help his parents have a dignified retirement, never donate to charities, and never help his neighbors or be kind to strangers unless he receives compensation. Would he be able to lead a fulfilling existence, taking the capitalist philosophy to its logical conclusions? Of course not. Even after hundreds of years of being suppressed, sharing and generosity remain vital to human existence. You don’t have to look to radical social movements to find examples of this. The United States may be, on a structural level, the most selfish nation in the world — it is the richest of “developed” countries, but has among the lowest life expectancies because the political culture would sooner let poor people die than give them healthcare and welfare. But even in the US it’s easy to find institutional examples of sharing that form an important part of the society. Libraries offer an interconnected network of millions of free books. PTA potlucks and neighborhood barbecues bring people together to share food and enjoy each other’s company. What examples of sharing might develop outside the restrictive bounds of state and capital? Currency-based economies have only existed a few thousand years, and capitalism has only been around a few hundred years. One economy developed over and over by humans on every continent has been the gift economy. In this system, if people have more than they need of anything, they give it away. They don’t assign value, they don’t count debts. Everything you don’t use personally can be given as a gift to someone else, and by giving more gifts you inspire more generosity and strengthen the friendships that keep you swimming in gifts too. Many gift economies lasted for thousands of years, and proved much more effective at enabling all of the participants to meet their needs. Capitalism may have drastically increased productivity, but to what end? On one side of your typical capitalist city someone is starving to death while on the other side some have developed overweight. What these anthropologists may not have known is that gift economies have never been totally suppressed in the West; in fact they surfaced frequently within rebellious movements. Anarchists in the US today also exemplify the desire for relationships based on generosity and the guarantee that everyone’s needs will be met. In a number of towns and cities, anarchists hold Really Really Free Markets — essentially, flea markets without prices. People bring goods they have made or things they don’t need anymore and give them away for free to passersby or other participants. Or, they share useful skills with one another. In one free market in North Carolina, every month: two hundred or more people from all walks of life gather at the commons in the center of our town. They bring everything from jewelry to firewood to give away, and take whatever they want. There are booths offering bicycle repair, hairstyling, even tarot readings. People leave with full-size bed frames and old computers; if they don’t have a vehicle to transport them, volunteer drivers are available. No money changes hands, no one haggles over the comparative worth of items or services, nobody is ashamed about being in need. Contrary to government ordinances, no fee is paid for the use of this public space, nor is anyone “in charge.” Sometimes a marching band appears; sometimes a puppetry troupe performs, or people line up to take a swing at a piñata. Games and conversations take place around the periphery, and everyone has a plate of warm food and a bag of free groceries. Banners hang from branches and rafters proclaiming “FOR THE COMMONS, NOT LANDLORDS OR BUREAUCRACY” and “NI JEFES, NI FRONTERAS” and a king-size blanket is spread with radical reading material, but these aren’t essential to the event — this is a social institution, not a demonstration. Many other societies have also distributed and exchanged surpluses as gifts. Aside from the social cohesion and joy that is gained from sharing with your community without greedily keeping accounts, a gift economy can also be justified in terms of personal interests. Often, a person cannot consume what they produce all by themselves. The meat from a day’s hunt will go bad before you can eat it all. A tool, like a saw, will lay unused most of the time if it is the property of a single person. It makes more sense to give away most of the meat or share your saw with your neighbors, because you are ensuring that in the future they will give extra food to you and share their tools with you — thus ensuring that you have access to more food and a wider range of tools, and you and your neighbors become richer without having to exploit anybody. From what we know, however, members of gift economies would probably not justify their actions with arguments of calculated self-interest, but with moral reasoning, explaining sharing as the right thing to do. After all, an economic surplus is the result of a certain way of looking at the world: it is a social choice and not a material certainty. Societies must choose, over time, to work more than they need to, to quantify value, or to only consume the minimum required for their survival and to surrender all the rest of their produce to a common storehouse controlled by a class of leaders. Even if a hunting party or a group of gatherers gets lucky and brings home a huge amount of food, there is no surplus if they consider it normal to share it with everyone else, glut themselves with a big feast, or invite a neighboring community to party until all the food is eaten. It’s certainly more fun that way than measuring out pounds of food and calculating what percentage we earne Anarchy is the truest form of order.

  • Elinor Hauck

    Alright, good faith answers: **A. What is, in your opinion, "political correctness"?** It's not mere politeness. To go back to the original creation of the term - it's about valuing a political view above facts, common sense or basic empathy. It's dogmatism. **Is it good or bad?** In the sense that I describe it - bad. **What's the appropriate response to "political correctness"?** I'm not sure what the appropriate response is, but I would prefer it if people were not afraid to say what they believe to be true for fear of social retribution or pure tribalism. Yes, even views a reasonable person might think reprehensible. Forcing someone into silence does not change their views, it merely conceals them. **B. How would you characterize "nerd/geek" culture?** Culture that revolves around participation in certain related categories of hobby. Mainly games (tabletop and computer games but not sports), fantastic fiction (comic books, fantasy and sci fi largely) and technical pursuits (such as computer hardware/software). The groupings are fairly arbitrary really. **Who's allowed to participate in "nerd/geek" culture?** Anyone. Why would you want to stop someone? **What "counts" as a video game?** It's more about what counts as a game. And that's a very contentious issue. I would classify a game as something that requires meaningful choices and perhaps a win/lose condition. A novel is not a game, but a Choose-Your-Own-Adventure book is. Snakes and Ladders is notably not a game by this definition. If you're asking about 'walking simulators' specifically, it depends entirely upon how it plays. Dear Esther (which I enjoyed when I first played it) doesn't have any actual choices as far as I know. Firewatch does. The former could be said to be less of a game than the latter. That isn't a value judgement, just a question of categorisation. **When, and in what forms is artistic expression legitimate?** I'm not sure I understand the question. I can't think of a situation in which artistic expression is not 'legitimate'. **C. How would you define "feminism"?** That rather depends on the context. Feminism is the idea that men and women should be treated equally. But it can also be an ideology that goes far beyond that. I don't think self-described feminists themselves can agree on a definition either. **Do you think feminism "went wrong" some time? And if so, when?** Even from the very beginning I think feminism was a mixed bag of good ideas (egalitarianism) and some very strange ones (some of the more esoteric stuff). I feel that the current feminist movement has become counter-productive to say the least but I'm not knowledgeable enough about the timeline to say when or why that became the case. **What's your view on the wage gap?** I think the 70% stat that is often quoted is vastly misleading and doesn't take into account a vast number of subtleties such as occupation choice, part-time vs full-time employment, overtime, wage negotiation differences and the like. I'm quite willing to believe that there is a problem, provided someone can show it to me after accounting for those things, but unfortunately the conversation rarely gets that far. **How about the alleged STEM disparity?** It's complex. From what I've seen in studies of toy selection among very young children (and primates) there are biological differences between men and women that result in different spheres of interest (on average). How much that affects the STEM disparity I couldn't say, but I think it's telling that the numbers are heavily divergent even amongst schoolchildren. In any case, I'd prefer we tried to figure out the cause before jumping straight into the assumption of sexism. **How would you describe your beliefs on patriarchy theory and rape culture?** Descriptions of 'patriarchy', I find are mainly descriptions of the harmful elements of society as a whole. Society does oppress those living within it and especially the most vulnerable. Society makes people conform to its rules and those rules can be awful depending on the culture. But society also gives us everything we have. If we want access to roads and running water and food security, we need to learn to play nice with others and that means giving up a part of our independence. It's a faustian pact, but it's one that works. The idea that patriarchy or society is a male force is basically true. Most leaders and influential people throughout history have been men. And that, I think, is down to differences in psychology between the sexes. Most species of animal have a sex that occupies the dominant hierarchy position. Among mammals, that is most frequently males (but not always). If an alien biologist came from space to observe the human species, they would probably classify humans among that group that includes deer, lions, chimpanzees and gorillas (but not elephants, hyenas or bonobos). Is that hierarchy difference a good thing? No. But it is something that exists. Animals do kill each other but murder is not good either. As for rape culture - it is something that can exist. But doesn't in western culture outside of jails and maybe isolated communities. We consider rape to be one of the most heinous crimes imaginable, sometimes even classing it above murder in severity. The idea that we are supposed to condone or celebrate it baffles me. Rape jokes -such as they are - rely on shock. They elicit humour *because* they are so outrageous. **D. How would you characterize the political leanings of the subreddit?** Diverse. Tending towards liberal/libertarian but with people from pretty much every part of the spectrum. **How would you characterize your personal political leanings?** Labels mean something different to everyone. But let's go with 'culturally liberal, economically libertarian-socialist' if you can imagine such a thing. **Who did you, personally vote for?** In the most recent UK elections I voted for the Green Party. **Do you have problems with politics in the current status quo? If so, elaborate.** That's a helluva broad question but let's go with: There's a complete expectations mismatch between the elites and a large segment of the population in many western countries and the media seems more intent on proselytising than informing anyone of the facts, further obfuscating the problem.

  • Lela Beahan

    Let's take a look at a few of the citations: Cockburn, Cynthia. (2007). [From where we stand: war, women’s activism, and feminist analysis](https://www.amazon.com/Where-We-Stand-Activism-Feminist/dp/1842778218/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1486865289&sr=8-1&keywords=From+where+we+stand%3A+war%2C+women%E2%80%99s+activism%2C+and+feminist+analysis). New York: Zed Books Summary: "This original study by the, the product of 80,000 miles of travel by the author over a two-year period, examines women's activism against wars as far apart as Sierra Leone, Colombia and India. It shows women on different sides of conflicts in the former Yugoslavia and Israel refusing enmity and co-operating for peace. It describes international networks of women opposing US and Western European militarism and the so-called 'war on terror'. Women are often motivated by adverse experiences in male-led anti-war movements, preferring to choose different methods of protest and remain in control of their own actions. But like the mainstream movements, women's groups differ - some are pacifist while others put justice before non-violence; some condemn nationalism as a cause of war while others see it as a legitimate source of identity. The very existence of feminist antimilitarism proposes a radical shift in our understanding of war, linking the violence of patriarchal power to that of class oppression and ethnic 'othering'" Cowen, D. (2008). [Military Workfare: The Soldier and Social Citizenship in Canada](https://www.amazon.com/Military-Workfare-Citizenship-Comparative-Political-ebook/dp/B00551IQSC/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1486865381&sr=8-1-fkmr0&keywords=litary+Workfare%3A+The+Soldier+and+Social+Citizenship+in+Canada.). Toronto: University of Toronto Press. Summary: Despite the centrality of war in social and political thought, the military remains marginal in academic and public conceptions of citizenship, and the soldier seems to be thought of as a peripheral or even exceptional player. Military Workfare draws on five decades of restricted archival material and critical theories on war and politics to examine how a military model of work, discipline, domestic space, and the social self has redefined citizenship in the wake of the Second World War. It is also a study of the complex, often concealed ways in which organized violence continues to shape national belonging. What does the military have to do with welfare? Could war-work be at the centre of social rights in both historic and contemporary contexts? Deborah Cowen undertakes such important questions with the citizenship of the soldier front and centre in the debate. Connecting global geopolitics to intimate struggles over entitlement and identity at home, she challenges our assumptions about the national geographies of citizenship, proposing that the soldier has, in fact, long been the model citizen of the social state. Paying particular attention to the rise of neoliberalism and the emergence of civilian workfare, Military Workfare looks to the institution of the military to unsettle established ideas about the past and raise new questions about our collective future. Cowen, D. and A. Siciliano. (2011). [Surplus Masculinities and Security.](http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1467-8330.2011.00905.x/full) Antipode. 43(5): 1516-1541. Abstract: In this paper we investigate geographies of military recruitment and urban policing as key domains for both the management of surplus populations and the extraction of surplus value. Drawing on research in North America and the UK, we explore the emerging institutions, social technologies, and political economies that constitute a racialized and gendered geography of what we term “securitized social reproduction”. We suggest that so-called “redundant” populations of underemployed racialized men are at the centre of contemporary politics of security. We explore the increasingly productive role of surplus populations in security industries, and the resurgence of public masculinities that seek to both valourize and discipline subjects and populations. This resurgence of masculinity is taking shape through both the expansion of security industries and the entanglement of police and military force. This paper suggests that a focus on ‘surplus’ highlights the geographies and profits at stake in securing social reproduction. Daniels, Cynthia. (2006).[ Exposing Men: The Science and Politics of Male Reproduction](https://www.amazon.com/Exposing-Men-Science-Politics-Reproduction/dp/0195382544/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1486865617&sr=8-1&keywords=Exposing+Men%3A+The+Science+and+Politics+of+Male+Reproduction). New York: Oxford University Press. Summary: Exposing Men examines how ideals of masculinity have long skewed our societal--and scientific--understanding of one of the pillars of male identity: reproductive health. Only with the recent public exposure of men's reproductive troubles has the health of the male body been thrown into question, and along with it deeper masculine ideals. Whereas once men's sexual and reproductive abilities were the most taboo of topics, today erectile dysfunction is a multi-billion dollar business, and magazine articles trumpet male reproductive decline with headlines such as "You're Half the Man Your Father Was." Cynthia R. Daniels casts a gimlet eye on our world of plummeting sperm counts, spiking reproductive cancers, sperm banks, and pharmacological cures for impotence in order to assess the true state of male health. What she finds is male reproductive systems damaged by toxins and war, and proof piling up that men through sperm, pass on harm to the children they father. Yet, despite the evidence that men's health, as much as women's, significantly affects the vitality of their offspring, Daniels also sees a society holding on to outdated assumptions, one in which men ignore blatant health risks as they struggle to live up to antiquated ideas of manliness. Those don't sound like biased citations at all (they do).

  • Chaim Conn

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  • Gracie Hoeger

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  • Albin Dibbert

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I think there are a few ways you can get in touch with this imaginative part of you that you have never accessed before. I suggest you try the following tried and true methods of getting in touch with your mind's eye: -Sensory deprivation -Meditation -fish oil pills -and shrooms (yeah, I know, this might seem crazy,) -Hypnosis (this has a bad wrap as pseudoscience but more recently scientific studies are proving it's value.) -Contact a university research neurologist online who has written on aphantasia or anything similar and ask for their opinion/suggestions Studies have proven that meditation builds more neural networks in the brain and puts people more in touch with their senses. During meditation, you are clearing your mind of words, and for someone like you who only thinks in words, what happens when your mind is cleared of them? I'm speculating that if you meditate, especially if you do a kind of meditation where you focus on sensations or imagining sensations, you will see improvement. I think you should also try sensory deprivation. Sensory deprevation has been proven to put people more deeply in touch with their mind's eye, at least for a little bit. Fish oil pills also help the brain function. Weirdly enough, fish oil pills are what I am least confident about recommending you because there has been the least about of research on them to prove their efficacy. Shrooms, yes they are drugs. But more and more it is coming out that they can help us mentally if used responsibly. They used to be used as a what was a promising treatment for autistic children, and now are being experimentally used to help people who suffer debilitating amounts of pain accept their pain. And hypnosis. Hypnosis unfortunately has an extremely bad wrap because of people who have used it for bad reasons in the past, but it is right up their with meditation, which has an extremely good wrap. Hypnosis has been proven to help people access unconscious bodily processes that cannot otherwise be accessed by the conscious mind; it is an increasingly accepted treatment for Irritable Bowel Syndrome. I believe if you went to an ethically trained hypnotist and explained your problem with being able to retrieve sensory memories, they would be able to help you retrieve those memories. This is my strongest suggestion to you, just make sure that they are helping you retrieve real memories of the same week or day--people have been known to retrieve fake memories under hypnosis. All this aside, it seems you have already formed an identity around "being someone with memory problems" because you are asking for coping strategies instead of cures. You are trying to deal with the symptoms, not the cause. You have accepted that that is just the way your brain is because of the common misconception that our mental abilities or disabilities are set in stone, but the truth is you are only limited by the physical processes and your own behavioral patterns. ADHD patients, for example, have shown vast improvement when they are put into visual therapy. Th brain is like a muscle, when you work out more muscle fibers grow, when you use your brain in certain ways neural fibers develop quicker reaction times (hence baseball players hitting balls that move to fast for them to consciously see.) But keep in mind that I don't think any of these methods would work right away, because your lack of use of your visceral memory retrieval neurons would mean they are very weak or they might not even exist yet. It would take effort and time, and you may never reach normal, but I am betting you can get better (that is assuming you don't have actual brain damage.) Who am I to tell you all this? I'm not a neurologist, nor am I a hypnotist. I'm just very interested in neurology and the mind; everything I'm telling you has evidence to back it up. I don't feel like finding my sources right now, and I recommend you do your own research anyway if you are serious about fixing this because you will likely take it more seriously if you read it yourself instead of letting a random person on reddit tell you. But if you want to ask me I'll dig up the titles of some of the books in which you can read more about this stuff. PS. Closing your eyes and trying to imagine biting into a lemon is a classic to show people their sensory memory because a lot of people don't have a good sensory memory. Personally, I think mostly in words and I mostly remember things in words too, but if I am really focussed and meditating on something with my eyes closed I can recall the sensation. You might actually be closer to "normal" than you think, but more concerned about it than other people. Like the mind's eye thing, can you draw a simple picture of a cat? So can I. But I can't draw a particularly realistic picture of a cat unless I have one in front of me or have a photo. I can't draw anything realistically without looking at it, but if I can look at it I am not half-bad. The mind's eye typically isn't that powerful. And please let me know if you do end up trying any of this. I'd be truly fascinated to know how it turns out.

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  • Lexie Prosacco

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  • Elvis Nitzsche

    LGBT Rights Originally marriage was viewed as a union to help promote the wellbeing of the child. Nowadays LGBT can adopt so it's not really a big issue and most conservatives that are my peers (I am 24) don't really give a shit about who you fuck. Another thing is that straight people account for 95%+ of society which leads to it being the norm. People can understand being gay or lesbian but it is a deviation from the norm which will always cause unrest. As others have stated social conservatives value the norm and are cautious toward change. Immigration Pretty much everyone is okay with and even cherishes legal immigrants. Conservatives place a higher emphasis on the law typically than liberals do. Let's presume everything you said is true. It still doesn't negate the fact that illegal immigrants break the law and that doesn't logically equate that they would appreciate the other laws that America has. It also demeans the legal immigrants who follow the rules and abide by our process to enter this country legally. Refugees Your argument is a moral one and I certainly understand it and appreciate it. However refugees from the Middle east have vastly different values then our own. It costs resources and stretches the social fabric of our nation. Also at some point since they are refugees not immigrants they have to return back to their own country. So that means more costs associated with that. We could send aid and money to bordering countries to help house them. Also give them the tools to help make their country more hospitable. There are many different ways to help them then just admitting them to our country. Civil Rights This one is one is fun. So a lot of the facts get twisted with this because it is a charged issue. First off Black Lives Matter as an ideology is completely fine. Obviously their lives matter. But let's look at some stats. The paper for the National Bureau of Economic Research, which examined thousands of incidents at 10 large police departments in California, Florida and Texas, concluded that police were no more likely to shoot non-whites than whites after factoring in extenuating circumstances. According to the Bureau of Justice Statistics, blacks were charged with 62 percent of all robberies, 57 percent of murders and 45 percent of assaults in the 75 largest U.S. counties in 2009, though they made up roughly 15 percent of the population there. Those are hard to stomach. In fact I would be right there standing with black lives matter if they ever talked about something like this. According to Heather Mac Donald, a fellow at the Manhattan Institute and author of “The War on Cops,” there were 6,095 black homicide deaths in 2014. Why don't those lives matter? Climate Change This is my personal view so take it for what it is. Let's say climate change is happening. So what? How bad will it be? How involved are humans in it? If we stop all carbon emissions how big of an impact would it have? Is the planet irreparably damaged? With the left it seems like it's just more of screaming the sky is falling and there has been a lot of hyperbole. I don't think we know enough about climate change and what/why it is happening so we need to do more research in it. Also something like this raises some eyebrows. http://www.foxnews.com/science/2017/02/07/federal-scientist-cooked-climate-change-books-ahead-obama-presentation-whistle-blower-charges.html Planned Parenthood I am totally on board that we should be advocating for safe sex and condoms/birth control and all of that. First the government isn't just giving money to planned parenthood it's through title X? But as someone else pointed out it frees them to use money for abortion procedures. If PP abortion unit was completely separate and a stand alone operation from the health clinics I wouldn't have a problem with it. But when you mix the two that means that there is at least a chance someone who believes abortion is murder is going towards that. Also when GOP says defund PP the money would still go towards women clinics so it is not like it is lost. However since I believe in the free market I fault the GOP a little bit because you could just start your own clinic that does everything PP does but without the abortion and competition brings the best results. Also some fun tolerant quotes from the founder of PP, Margaret Sanger. Birth control must lead ultimately to a cleaner race. Women of the working class, especially wage workers, should not have more than two children at most. The average working man can support no more and and the average working woman can take care of no more in decent fashion. [We should] apply a stern and rigid policy of sterilization and segregation to that grade of population whose progeny is tainted, or whose inheritance is such that objectionable traits may be transmitted to offspring.

  • Andrew Hermann

    Phil, I have been working for over 20 years trying to tell others about an epiphany that I had in 1995. I don't know your credentials and this current effort on Reddit is just one more in a long, long list of contacts. I appreciate your interest, but as you can probably guess, many choices we make have little to do with what others tell us or think. My website at www.homestead.com/theosophy/ascension.html tells a little about how I arrived where I am today. I first learned of theosophy in college when I was a junior at 18 from another student. I got miffed that a theory of evolution was lying dormant in a book called The Secret Doctrine and dropped out. I studied at the headquarters of The Theosophical Society in Wheaton, Illinois and then returned to college for a psychology degree. I was raised Christian. The book that set me on the path was Hindu (Yoga Sutras of Patanjali). I set out to prove if what I was reading was true, as theosophy directs us to do. I studied at a second organization called St. Germain Foundation while in Chicago and again after moving to California. After reading to 20 volumes and books of decrees, I am now spending hours listening to their thousands of recorded dictations. I value research. My research was to purify by being vegetarian, abstaining from alcohol, drugs, smoking, sex, etc. it took me many years trying to purify (13 years or so) until I finally married a fellow theosophist and raised two vegetarian children with him. I had my second child, a son, in my arms (6 mo. old) when I had this epiphany about how Blavatsky's view of evolution could work and I've been out trying for recognition and acceptance ever since. I did not expect to be Blavatsky's messenger which she predicted would come between 1975-2000. (I joined 3/7/75.) I expected to have proof in the form of meeting face to face with an ascended master or developing a spiritual power such as clairvoyance. Can a realization of the theory evolution in The Secret Doctrine be considered as proof? Can a separate, independent organization, or separately published books by individuals confirm the statements in the first organization or published book? They are all a bit different. I was sitting in an "I AM" Temple decree class looking at a picture of Archangel Michael when the idea of a higher kingdom descending into humans first struck me. I reasoned it out with my husband a bit and wound up naming a higher kingdom (girasas) descending into humans as well as placing angels as involving lives, etc. My favorite though, as a psychology student, was likening the higher kingdom to the superego and the involving angel as the id and the reading the work Donald Hoffman (UC Irvine) is doing with an interface theory of evolution of perception in efforts to replace a long standing theory of evolution of perception dependent upon the veridical nature of the act of perceiving. With interface theory of perception, we have truth at different levels, microscopic, astronomical, and common knowledge interfacing with one another for fitness. The human mind itself uses data at three levels to make it fit. I could talk for hours about how Genesis tells us of a creation, not for a (fifth race) human, but of a first race girasas, that began its descent with Adam and brought angels that began to take position with the nature or surroundings we live in. How Jesus is a 6th race human, half girasas and half human while the rest of us are still 5th race. How forgiveness is deserving of every human as we learn to accept this greater life within us and give it room and time to live and keep us worthy of them. How this same process of descent and ascent of the human has happened again and again on earth three previous times and will continue three additional times before humans progress to the girasas evolutionary status. If they live within us, it may seem that we are them, but the they separate with us again in the 7th race and all the advantages of having their help part with them, and then we have to again descend into evolving animals to get our forms again, which might not be as pleasant, but on our descent at least humans are the better of the two kingdoms, and through all of this we can come to know evolution as giving and receiving through love. Jewish as a fifth race, 7th subrace religion, has a sort of primary position by representing the goal or family race (since the goal exists from the time when the first and second subraces exist: Egyptian and Hindu). Christianity has a primary position by being paired with the fifth race continent of Europe. Islam may be the beginnings of a seventh subrace of the 6th race, which exists (again) from the very beginning of the sixth race as the goal. The sixth subrace of the fifth root race is getting its start in the U.S. and Australia and from that stock some people will help to start the 6th race itself, but that won't happen for 400,000 years when a form or shista that was buried on earth when we were here in the last round will be uncovered and adapted to serve as the start of the 6th race, much like Adam served the beginning of the fifth race.

  • Sunny Jacobson

    >I think this is a really a good time for you to check out what Christianity says for yourself I have a pretty good idea of what it says for myself. Reading the bible doesn't really help. The bigger problem is that the central premise violates my epistemological foundations. I have learned too much for many of the words used to be defined in such a way that they are useful to me. God's actions, even down to "creation", are defined so nebulously that I struggle to figure out *any* logical coherence to them. Reading stories of mystical floods and people 'rising from the dead' will not change that. The central foundational premises are still too ill-defined, and that book does not do a good job addressing them for me. >simply try reading the first few chapters of the book of John. Ok. Lets break it down. https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John+1 >In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. ... Right out the gate. "What?" "How are words defined"? "What do words mean?" "What is the concept of a word!?" Already using loose terminology to describe something. >He was with God in the beginning. Declaration without making the words any more clearly defined. >Through him all things were made **HOW!?** This is *incredibly* nebulous, 'made' itself is indicative of a process but its a process that's never described! >without him nothing was made that has been made. So fiat declaration of a ill-defined concept? Great start. > In him was life, and that life was the light of all mankind Ooo excellent time to begin asking questions like "what is life", and "what is light"? Neither are trivial. Both I understand in a lot more detail than this sentence makes clear. >The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome[a] it. ... Pure poetry. Meaningless, vague poetry. >There was a man sent from God whose name was John Oh goodie! > He came as a witness to testify concerning that light, so that through him all might believe Well I'm sold! Wait, no, this guy's named John? And here I thought that man was named [James](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Clerk_Maxwell). >He himself was not the light; he came only as a witness to the light. Sure we're not talking about Maxwell? > The true light that gives light to everyone was coming into the world. ... "True light that gives light to everyone was coming into the world"? What, so... the sun? Huh? >He was in the world, and though the world was made through him, the world did not recognize him. Oh! Electrons. I see. Quantum orbitals. That's what it's talking about? Right? So I guess we might be talking about Bohr! Wait, no, his name was Niels. > He came to that which was his own, but his own did not receive him. ... Photoelectric effect? Seriously these words mean nothing to me. >Yet to all who did receive him, to those who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God— Believe in "his name"? What, like the syllables exist? What the fuck does any of this have to do with nebulous ideas of "light", and "making"? >children born not of natural descent, nor of human decision or a husband’s will, but born of God. ... *GASP* How can anyone possibly doubt this strongly asserted thing that does literally nothing to really describe whatever the fuck this 'god' concept is in the first place! >The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us Once again "the word"? The fuck does "the word" mean? How are "words" defined? How does any of this make coherent logical sense?! >We have seen his glory, the glory of the one and only Son, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth. What do any of these words mean? Hell, what's 'glory'?! ------------------------ I'm going to stop now but I think you get the picture. Those books hold pretty much no value in mapping to the real world. I have to treat them in the same literary vein I treat Herodotus, or Homer. I have to try to imagine what it'd be like to consider nebulous concepts to be 'real' without having any larger context of modern epistemology and modern science. I *can* read a text like that, but it doesn't help convince me of the *veracity* of the text. That's not how I filter information. So what do you expect me to gain from these texts? How do you expect me to interpret them? What value do you believe they offer me? I'm asking what they offered *you* because *my* answers to those are already pretty damn well explored. You're free to ask for my views, and I will provide them, but be warned that telling me to read a text and treat it as authority simply by fiat declarations is not how my mind works. You appear to have taken these words to *mean* something even when you declared you 'didn't believe'. I'm not sure I can ever remember a time where those words have sounded anything but hollow to my ears.

  • Jordane Ritchie

    Let's stick with the evil painting idea, but instead of an individual using the paint as a doorway, let's have the canvas itself be cursed; filled with the magic of the ancient evil unicorn Zelda. The artwork comes into Rarity's possession as a donation to a charity art show she is hosting in Manehatten. However, children start going missing around the art show and authorities threaten to shut it down until they can catch the culprit and find the lost fillies. Rarity, of course, is distraught and begs Twilight and friends to help her get to the bottom of what is going on. They start by deciding to re-enact the conditions that led to the crime. All of the abductions seemed to take place just before the gallery would be closing, when the least amount of people were around, so the girls decide to close the gallery early and do a sweep to find anyone suspicious. During this time, Pinkie stumbles on the painting, and to her it appears like a doorway to the finest party you could imagine. Being Pinkie, she takes this at face value and steps through... the painting closing over and returning to normal behind her. With Pinkie is t the first victim, as the girls panic and one by one find themselves drawn into the painting until only Applejack, Rarity, and Twilight remain. Rarity comes across the painting and swears she has never seen it before. It's a painting of the most beautiful dress you could imagine. She simple MUST touch it, and study it, as it could be the inspiration for a whole new line! Applejack only sees a painting of a mean looking unicorn and says as such. When Twilight looks at the painting it's a huge library, with books piled on tables that desperately need to be reshelvef. However she notices what Applejack is saying, and quickly casts a spell of clear sight on herself and Rarity. Sure enough, the painting is that of Zelda, a sorceress from the pre-equestrian period, thought to have been a contemporary of King Sombra. Like the doorway in King Sombra's castle, the painting is actually a portal, but one that shows you something you want to draw you in rather than your worst fear to scare you away. The girls deduce that this is what has been luring children away, but the only way to find them is to step through and see where the portal leads. It lets out into an abandoned castle that is clearly in a state of dire disrepair. The trio quickly find not just the children, but their other friends in tiny cages hanging from the ceiling. There is a rattle of chains and they're told to hide. A robed figure slinks into the room, moving slowly... before a whisp of magic lashes out, capturing Rarity by one hoof and hauling her into a shaft of light spilling from the ceiling. "Ah, you must be the one I have to thank for my latest 'guests'," cackles the crone. It turns out Zelda is alive after all these years, and has been using her painting to lure ponies to her dungeon. As she locks up Rarity she crows about how lovely it is to see so many lovely young faces. And how wonderful it will be to drain their youth and magic to sustain herself... the children would be the first of course, since they were the freshest. At that point Twilight and Applejack step out of the shadows and assure her that won't happen if they have anything to say about it. A magic duel ensues between Twilight and Zelda, but shockingly Zelda seems to have the upper hand. Applejack uses the distraction to free the other ponies and children, but when they turn to help Twilight she tells them not to, and instead focus on rescuing the children and getting them back out of the painting. As the party retreats, Zelda screams in rage and begins to melt and deform, becoming stronger but sloppier in her attacks. The entire dungeon seems to melt and distort as the ponies flee back through the portal to Manehatten. When they are back in the gallery the other ponies panic and whirl to face Zelda whom they are sure is right behind them, but Twilight assures them there is no need to panic. Indeed, the portrait of Zelda is just a painting again, one where the paint had started to melt and puddle beneath the canvas. Twilight explains that Zelda wasn't still alive and they were never transported to her dungeon. They were just inside the painting the whole time. When Zelda proved to be more than a match for Twilight, she had realized that was because the painting was feeding off of her own magic... so instead she had started transmuting parts of the painting into acetone, or pint thinner, releasing the magic from the ensorceled painting and allowing the girls to escape. It was the painting itself that had been stealing magic to maintain itself, but without any victims, it was just a regular painting. Even so, they decide that something so evil should be safely locked away in the Canterlot Archives. As the authorities arrive to remove the painting, no one notices a trail of paint leading off into a dark corner, or the frightening cackle of an old crone.

  • Aniyah Senger

    >Hmm. Less choices is better? That sounds... weird. So, what you're telling me is that we're on a big ball of dirt floating in nothing, around a ball of burning gas, and we're being kept from hurling off because it's so big? Yeah, most true things sound weird when you're ignorant. Decision fatigue. Look it up. >Now you're really off the deep end. Or I'm literally parroting back basic systems thinking to you. Seriously, there's a science for this. In fact, here's a quote: >he best way to deduce the system’s purpose is to watch for a while to see how the system behaves. If a frog turns right and catches a fly and then turns left and catches a fly, and then turns around backward and catches a fly, the purpose of the frog has to do not with turning left or turning right or backward but with catching flies. If a government proclaims an interest in protecting the environment but allocates little money or effort towards that goal, environmental protection is not, in fact, the government’s purpose. Purposes are deduced from behavior, not from rhetoric or stated goals. So, if by off the deep end, you mean I actually read, then you're right. I read. I admit it. I'm off the deep end in information. Doing the fucking breaststroke. >Poverty is a feature of humanity. Humans were born into poverty. You think the Native Americans had bank accounts and books and iPhones? Hell no, they were practically destitute. They had little to no means of production. Which is why, when our civilizations clashed, the Native Americans lost out. So, you don't understand the subject we're discussing. Poverty is not just constituted by the failure to meet the income guidelines set forth by the IRS. Poverty is a state of resources insufficiency. It's not having enough food, water, shelter, safety, etc. No, the Native Americans were not impoverished. Neither were pre-colonial African tribes that practiced hunter-gatherer lifestyles. People are born without money. People are not universally born without resources. >Which is why, when our civilizations clashed, the Native Americans lost out. Or, and bear with me here, it might have been the germ warfare that wiped out millions of them between conquistadors (then again with the infected blankets at Fort Pitt). Followed closely by the development of extreme warlike tendencies motivated by a state of non-monetary poverty that can directly be attributed to an agrarian lifestyle and a finite supply of land with an ever-expanding population living off of it. Sapiens and The World until Yesterday are great books to read if you need help with understanding human history.. or even some basic anthropology. >You're solution is govt govt govt. More govt. I'm not sure what you have against one of the greatest inventions in human history. That's not true. I think it's the fact that you don't know the value it has to us because you've never existed outside of it. My solution is systems. Government is an efficient mass delivery mechanisms for systems. My solution is science. Government is a good funding platform for science. My solution is **SOCIETY**, something that you would find it increasingly difficult to maintain without a government of the size we have, if only for the reason that an agreement of the sort that we're having would be much easier to resolve with a bullet if it weren't for the looming threat of government intervention after the act. >You seem to be unable to analyze the results of policies. Like Dodd-Frank, right? Tell me more about your foresight. >Your solution is to ignore people's genuine, well-founded concerns and lobby for more govt control. Like coal jobs, right? If their concerns are as well founded as your knowledge of human history, then there's a significant amount that can be ignored there. What you're actually saying, and which I won't validate beyond identifying it, is that I don't care about your feelings. You're right. I don't care about your feelings. I care about your lives, but not about your feelings. I care about the meth epidemic running it's way through your part of our country, but not your feelings. I care about those of you going away to the military and getting unjustly treated when you return, but I don't care about your feelings. I care about those of you that are poor, but I don't care about your feelings. You care about your feelings but don't give a fuck about much else. >Your proscription is precisely what we don't want. And children don't want to eat vegetables. So? >And I'm glad Trump is in charge and ideas like yours will get nowhere near those at the highest levels of govt. Yes, you're glad Bannon has the ear of the president and not scientists. Jesus, you're thick.

  • Coy Rohan

    1. I can see the issues with it, and it is kind of a mess, but as far as mood and being dramatic, I think it hits the right notes, and it ends well. I have more issue with Arya's stabbing in the previous episode than I do this sequence; it does as well as it can with the rather poor set up it was given. 2. Meh. Most everything involving the Faceless Men I found boring. The interesting parts of it were really any time Arya was doing stuff that wasn't in the House of Black and White, like the scenes with the play and Lady Crane. I just don't care much about the Faceless Men, and the scenes involving them were often boring, and sometimes a bit confusing as well. 3. Epic. One of the best scenes in Season 5. 4. Never really thought about it one way or the other. From what I know of the books, I can understand why it would be a let down to book readers, but for me it all felt pretty standard. Didn't stand out to be in a good or a bad way. 5. Eh, Dorne doesn't mean a whole lot to me, so it wasn't a big deal, but it wasn't done particularly well. I liked Doran, Areo, and Trystane, so it was a little disappointing to see them go out like that, but it doesn't really matter to me. 6. A means to an end. Kinda like the Jaime and Tyrion one where I don't feel any kind of way about it. I'm not too invested in the Ironborn, but I think this was pulled off well enough. Euron's alright, and was great in the first scene he appeared in, but got kind of underutilized and feels like a wasted character so far. 7. A little anticlimactic, after how much this meeting was built up too. Not sure why, but it doesn't really hit where it should with me. Part of that may be after watching Season 6, since the Three Eyed Raven, the Children of the Forest, and just about everyone and everything involved changed so much between Season 4 and Season 6, so it's all a little odd. With the prespective I have now, it made sense to kill Jojen when they did, but it wasn't handled particularly well. 8. I've heard it's drastically different in the books, so I can understand disappointment with it, but I think the show did as well as it could with it. It may not have had all the mystery and foreshadowing, but there were emotional moments and I think it did what it was trying to do well. It just ended up being vastly different from the book version. But without that to compare it to, I think it's fine. 9. I didn't have much knowledge or perspective on the Umbers, so it didn't mean anything to me that they sided with the Boltons. With what I do know, it was a little odd, and the Rickon situation was done poorly, but I was never bothered that the Umbers sided with the Boltons, and the new Lord Umber was a fine character. 10. Grey Wind's death was a bit pitiful, but considering everything else going on in that scene, I'm fine with it. It might have taken away from events going on inside if they spent time giving Grey Wind some great heroic death. Summer's... yeah, it kinda felt like they realized at the last minute that they needed to do something with him, and just threw that it. Even freaking Leaf got a better death than Summer did. That could have been handled better. 11. Always thought this scene was great. Loved what it did with the involved characters, and an important moment for Jon as a leader. 12. I never had a problem with this scene. I know it's rough to see these established badass warriors get beat the way they did, but they were in an enclosed space, outnumbered by enemies with weapons much better suited for close combat, It makes sense that they'd lose. So I don't think anyone fought weakly. It felt a little... out of place, maybe, but I think it needed to happen to raise the stakes for Dany, and show that the Sons of the Harpy are a big deal by having kill more than just random Unsullied. Plus, it furthered the Grey Word and Missandei thing the show decided to do. I can see why it might all feel a bit pointless, but I think it's a pretty solid scene. 13. Nothing much to say about this one. 14. I liked them well enough. I actually really like Renly, and he's great in these scenes. I think they served a purpose, and it was good to flesh out these characters a bit. Loras in the show seems to be a point of disappointment for a lot of book readers, but I'm not sure what he was like in the books that he didn't have in the show. He's not a particularly major or memorable character in the show, but I think he's fine. He's just outshined by the others members of his family, since they're all such fantastic characters. 15. I LOVED it on a first watch, and it held up on a rewatch. I dunno, I never get tired of Dany being a badass, and had no problem with anything about this scene. That said, some things could have been a little bit clearer, like the fire spreading up the stairs and all that, but those are all rather minor details really. (Maybe I'll come back and edit in opinions about the characters you mentioned, but it's late and I'm tired and I'm not sure how much of value I'd have to say. I tried to cover opinions of some of them where I could earlier in this post.)

  • Ceasar Emmerich

    >Wow. That's some serious indoctrination there. Common core was the uniform standard that was passed and its implementation has been mostly a disaster. In no way was I defending common core. I was saying how those classes you mentioned, home ec and wood shop, disappeared *because* of it. But even then I pointed out how, in my own area, they were still options. But, aside, whatever. >private schools don't use it. Gee I wonder why, could it be most private schools are private institutions that don't answer to government standards because they get most of their money from whomever wishes to go there? I wonder what people with money want their kids to learn about... >As for money and access NJ discovered that more money, even massively more money and resources doesn't produce better outcomes in its poor districts. Now, I don't live in NJ, I can't speak for NJ, and I was never speaking for NJ to begin with, but that sounds like a briefing of a broader problem. Kids in my state are failing in school too, and schools are getting tons of money and resources here too. Our schools are spending it on upgrades to their football fields and their cafeterias, not to the 10 year old books they've been giving kids. But you wouldn't know that just looking at all the grants schools are getting. >As someone who teaches, I very much value the freedom I have to set curriculum based on the child in front of me and I pity teachers who lack that. As someone who will be handing you, and someone like you my children to educate them, I draw your line there. I want to know what standard of education my child is getting, if I'm going to be sending them there and paying taxes for it. This isn't a harsh suggestion either. >I meet a lot of people who, like you, pull out the 'I can't' card, because reasons. Please, everyone has reasons. You're right everyone has reasons! It's why they're *reasons* and not excuses. Whether or not they're an excuse doesn't matter. If someone says they can't, unless they're requesting something so hilariously unreasonable, you should respect that and offer a solution. In the very beginning I mentioned how not everyone has access to the same opportunities in America. Is that a good reason, or is that just an excuse? Not everyone can make a miracle story happen. It's why they're called miracles. Granted, that's not something you and I could help, but you suggesting to me, a random stranger you never even met on the internet, whom you know nothing about, to take time out of my life to mentor a class as a bandaid to a broader problem is hilarious. >That's inertia that causes nothing to get better. It doesn't have to cost any money to run a social group, we have fundraisers for that. What happens when your fundraisers pull no money? How do you set up a fundraiser? A bake sale needs people to bake for it, a craft sale needs people to craft, and all those people need materials, which cost money. Everything unfortunately costs money. >The hard part is people who 'can'. It turns out that studies show that the top echelons of companies and volunteer organizations are filled with people of the 'I can' Aside from this being a gross overstatement, >and they are the kind of people who find the time to help others and still get their work done. Oh look, here's that thing again. Those top echelon people probably have a thick salary that pays all their bills and buys all their groceries, and probably makes it so they don't have to work 40 hours a week to support themselves. So of course they have time to volunteer and help other people get their work done, they're *not working to live*. >Volunteering expands your social network and provides opportunities for leadership training and observation you can't always get at your regular job. Volunteering also costs your time, something you don't have when you're in poverty and working over 40 hours a week to provide for your 3 kids. Also being in poverty makes it so you can't always be around to teach your kids the things they're supposed to know before school, so you hope school can catch them up to where they're supposed to be. But teachers have to focus on six other kids just like your 3 in each of their classes, and they don't have the time to get to them in class, and the kids don't want to stick around after school for tutoring, should they be dumped off at another institution for the day to see if it can help their learning problem? Wait... wait... didn't I say all this somewhere? >Whaaaat? You mean peoole don't have good parents and good opportunities everywhere in the United States? Oh, yeah, I forgot, way back in the beginning of this thread. Wow, it's almost like education in America is a complicated issue beyond a teaching standard and dumb kids! Good thing nobody ever made generalizing statements like that along the way.

  • Stephanie Welch

    I was reading the GONE series. I like dark books, but there has to be a point to it. When a writer just makes things worse and worse purely for the sake of shock value and nothing else, I lose interest. This was the most blatant case I'd ever seen. The basic plot of the books is that a small town was encased in a dome with no access to the outside world and everybody there over 14 vanishes from existence. Also, a minority of the kids developed superpowers. These kids have to figure out how to survive in an adult-less world that is inherently hostile to them, figure out how to stop themselves from disappearing after they turn fifteen and reconnect their town back to the world while there's a mysterious deity-like creature in a cave trying to fuck their shit up. Now, let me give you a run-down of some of the 'dark' things that happen book by book and you'll see why I found it a little excessive. Book 1: Actually a pretty great book. I enjoyed it. Basically the worst thing that happens is that the main villain has people with powers who aren't loyal to him locked up with their hands encased in cement blocks so they can't use their powers. The main character breaks them out and the author doesn't shy away from telling you some of them have hands that are just rotting, useless, gross sacks of skin from being encased for so long... buuuut the main character happens to have a healer with him at the time (whom the author REEATEDLY finds ways to keep away until he needs her throughout the next few books) so she fixes that. The main villain loses, his even Worse Dragon loses an arm and is presumed dead, the minor villains don't control the town, main character becomes mayor, everyones happy. Oh but also, it is totally mentioned that babies died in cribs when all the adults disappeared and they have to clean up baby corpses while raiding houses for food. Book 2: It's a few months later. They're running out of stored food. Main character tries to get people farming but a) they don't wanna and b) he finally loads some people on a bus, takes them to a field, turns out it's infested with worms that work like pirhannas do in movies. They find this out because a kid goes out there and has all the flesh picked off his bones. So the food they're trying to harvest is rotting. Also, there's discontent growing between superpowered and non-superpowered kids. Also, the deity thing in the cave does some stuff, the last main villains dragon isn't dead and is serving it now, he has a whip-tentacle arm. Its dark, but still totally within the realm of acceptable. Book 3: The deity thing starts spreading its influence. a 'religion' of people who don't want to stop themselves from disappearing at 15 because they think they'll pop back in the real world springs up. Then it starts getting turned into dying in this world and disappearing are the same thing. The town babysitter (watches all the children who're under five who didn't die in their houses when all the adults poofed) ends up in this cult. At the end of the book, she takes all her kids, gets them all to hold hands, and jumps off a cliff with them. Most of the kids survive because of a super speed character who defies all physics saving them, but not all. The babysitter dies. The always sweet and sympathetic babysitter trying to murder a bunch of children is NOT what made me stop reading. Book 4: Ah, book four. Let me count the amount of bullshit the writer tried to cram into you. * The attempted murder of a severely autistic child * Fucking cannibalism * A KKK allegory of kids against people with powers * a food situation so dire that search parties have to be sent into the woods around the town to find any food and water they can. (this occurs at a different location than the cannibalism) * above KKK allegory tries to burn down the town. The last two? Yeah those occur simultaneously. The party out for food finds a crashed delivery truck far away from town full of nutella while the town is being burned down. Search party contains both the main character (strongest power-user in the city) and the super speed girl (main way for them to send messages; phones don't work). Every few pages they flip between super speed girl and main character rejoicing over nutella and the carnage back in the city with people commenting on how if only they could find super speed girl (who was taken on the expedition at the last minute), she could run a message to main character to come back and fix this and everything would be better, just really rubbing your nose in the fact that she's not there to find and there's no way to save the people in town. It was so blatant and disgusting a never finished the book. However, on book 5 the author mentioned there was a scene in it so dark that 'my editor asked me to take it out (I didn't, you know me better than that!)' (paraphrased direct quote). There are six books. I don't think I missed anything.

  • Vesta Hayes

    I had some time so I went ahead and commented on the video as I watched. Here is my comment: :20 your conclusion contradicts the historical testimonies about the translation process that say that Smith saw the words on the seer stone. :38 - no major revisions made? In the first edition of the BoM, the godhead was Trinitarian in nature and was later edited to its more current form. The first edition also killed off King Benjamin when he was already dead. :40 - there is actually quite a bit of evidence that Joseph performed quite a bit of research before writing the BoM. The entire plot line of the BoM is nearly identical to the View of the Hebrews. There's proof that Joseph was aware of this book because he quoted it in the Times and Seasons newspaper. Also, Joseph was extremely familiar with the KJV bible. Huge portions of the BoM are directly copied from the KJV bible (including errors that are unique to that version that were introduced well after the events of the BoM). :44 - Joseph did not produce the manuscript in three months. The total time was much longer. Yes, he worked on the manuscript for a total of 90 days but from start to finish it was much longer than three months. This is like saying the college football season is only 13 days. Now on to your evidences: 1. Joseph had access to maps. 2. Many other mormon apologists won't even agree with the meso american theory that you present. In 2 Nephi 1 it says that the land was kept from the knowledge from other nations and that they would have it "unto themselves". The dating for Meso American remains dates well before BoM times. 3. That's an interesting theory. Many of the names in the Book of Mormon also coincide with books about captain Kidd that Joseph was most likely familiar with. 4. NHM does not necessarily equate to Nahom. This seems to be the strongest case for the BoM but seems extremely weak as far as evidence goes and requires a great deal of supposition. 5. Chiasmus. A form of writing does not prove or even suggest antiquity. There are examples of chiasmus in Joseph's journals, D&C, and many other books that aren't considered ancient. Sure the term "chiasmus" wasn't coined until after Joseph's death but the concept is simple. That's why you see children's books like Dr Suess use chiasmus. Yet, nobody claims Dr. Suess is ancient Hebrew. The example given in Alma 36 has to take some jumps in logic to be considered chiasmus. See https://www.dialoguejournal.com/wp-content/uploads/sbi/articles/Dialogue_V38N04_105.pdf. 6. An interesting theory but seems like it could just as easily be contributed to the narrative style of the author. 7. It's interesting that you bring up Isaiah. Bible scholars believe that deutero Isaiah (which the BoM quotes generously) was written well after Lehi's expedition to the new world. You also mention older versions of the bible. Mormons believe that the bible was changed over time and this is why Joseph added his interpretations and called it the Joseph Smith Translation of the bible. When the dead sea scroll (the earliest bible writings in existence) were discovered, Mormons were disappointed to find that the Joseph Smith translations were not closer to the dead sea scrolls than the modern bibles. In fact it was much the opposite. 8. Comparisons to Mayan culture harms the BoM's case because the culture described in the BoM is most certainly NOT Mayan. They had completely different technologies, ate different foods, domesticated different animals, wore different clothing, had different languages, different DNA, etc. As for the geological events (mountains turning flat, valleys becoming mountains) described, you will not find a single archaeologist that could tell you of an event like this happening in the last 2000 years. 9. Smith was known in his area for being a treasure seeker. He was even arrested for charging customers a fee for doing this illegal practice. He never found anything of value for any of his treasure hunting customers. The fact that Smith claimed that there were treasures buried in a stone box isn't too surprising for him when he conned people looking for buried treasure. 10. The witnesses were related to Smith and David Whitmer. Some of the key witnesses also claimed that they only saw the plates with their "spiritual eyes". Also, Smith once had 30 of his followers sign a legal affidavit that claimed that he was not practicing polygamy. Many of those that signed were practicing polygamy and some of them were his polygamous wives. If anyone reading this wants to know why committed Mormons leave the church, please visit www.cesletter.com

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  • Daren Hammes

    My morality puts a high value on humans, but is not centered around just humans. If a moral decision came down to saving humans at the expense of all other life on the planet, I might well side with other life, not just humanity. Altruism might be difficult to understand if one had a rudimentary misunderstanding of wellbeing. It works on many levels. Morality is a system for making society better, safer, stronger. On a genetic level, reciprical altruism is likely to promote my genes. By helping those close to me, I am increasing the odds that my genes will be passed on. This is so both by helping those in my gene group and by encouraging others, in return, to help me and those close to me (who are likely to share my genes.) While this might be started when those around us were far more likely to be kin, it's continued as a moral virtue both because it still works on a genetic level and because it benefits society. As an individual, I know how I want to be treated. Because I have empathy, I want to treat others as I want to be treated. Encouraging, through morality, behavior that can benefit me and those around me helps create the type of society I want to live in. Morality often deals in situations that mix benefit and harm. If conduct were purely beneficial to all, a win/win situation, there would be less need for moral guidelines. Moral guidelines are usually there for the more difficult cases. So we try to weigh benefit vs. harm and make appropriate guidelines. Take altruism. If I could save, at minimal risk to myself, the life of someone who I don't consider evil, It's pretty clear that I should do so. But is altruism always morally good? I'd say not. Let's say that I've just discovered the cure for pancreatic cancer, but the results are in my head and if I die it will take medicine decades to find it again. I see my neighbor's house on fire. I see that my neighbor and her children are all safe. But her washing machine is at risk. I have about a 90% chance of dying if I rush in to rescue it, altruistically, and a 10% chance of saving the household device. Is it morally right for me to risk my life to safe the property? I'd say no. But if I'm encouraged by a moral code to make sacrifices, I benefit, others benefit, society as a whole benefits. There are, with most moral questions, competing views. Most people would judge you harsh.y on a social basis if you stood by and let a person drown when you had a life preserver that you could toss them at no risk to you. And yet, you would not be legally responsible in most places I know of if you did that. The value of personal autonomy, among other concerns, keeps us from outlawing such selfishness. For a soldier, we do not, as far as I know, require exceptional bravery when the situation presents itself. But we reward it when it happens in laudable conditions because we want our moral views to encourage the type of behavior that might be harsh for the individual but can greatly benefit the society. Thanks for considering my moral views very consistent. I don't, and past a certain point I don't value moral consistency. There are too many competing, sometimes conflicting values. Sometimes I will reach one moral conclusion and other times, with the same or very similar conditions I might reach another. Emotions come into play, as do competing moral concerns. To someone who believes that the definition of morality is subjective, nothing can be said to be objectively good or evil. But then, I don't think someone who believes in objective morality can do so either unless they are 100% certain that they know all of the moral standards and that they know all of the facts necessary to make a moral judgment. But I have no hesitation, when I consider what they've done so much more harmful than good, to call them evil. I might consider Torquemada or Oliver Cromwell to be evil men. They considered themselves very good men. My definition of morality is subjective, but I readily call them, under that system, immoral. Their definitions of morality were, they felt, objectively correct, and they would have no problem calling me evil and calling themselves good. The desire to feel like you are making an absolutely true moral pronouncement doesn't justify concluding that your morality is, therefore, objectively true. Obviously, whole books could be written on any part of this, so my discussion is going to be rather shallow.

  • Dustin Williamson

    >**no one is being treated like crap.** All upvoted. >Wow, now that you defended her on the internet, maybe she'll be your girlfriend! This is a repost of a repost of a repost. So take your white knighting fedora tipping ass down to the local Chuck-E-Cheez where maybe somebody will give a shit. The internet does not need or want you." >You're the type of whiny b*** that gets punched by reality everyday. Hope ya enjoy it." >All women seek sexual validation, just maybe not from you. >She knew what she was doing when she posted. Therein lies the problem. You have seemingly no consideration for anything you don't agree with. Methinks you are being disengenuous and you actually are here for an alterior motive. You don't actually care about social stigmatization. You don't care about who is being "censored". Guess what. The people being stigmatized are not the raging children with mass amounts of upvotes, it's the girl being treated like she has no worth aside from the size of her boobs and the people respectfull explaining why those types of comments might affect some people. Generally speaking, when a girl shows you her tattoo, she doesnt want you to make a juvenile useless "joke" about the size of her boobs. It is absolutely fucking creepy and makes people feel like shit. Like that's all the worth the other person can gather out of you attempting to express your pride. >you're being retarded. do you go in libraries and start taking a marker and drawing lines through inappropriate paragraphs and writing the author letters on how he shouldn't write things that offend You? do you go telling at the library to remove a book? Because the internet is like my library, and the comments are like the books I'm trying to read, and you're trying to make the authors pull any books that may not have nice things. **LET'S EVALUATE THIS PURE HYPOTHETICAL THAT TOTALLY NEVER HAPPENS**: A star wards nerd shows you her tattoo she just got and is super proud of. The only thing that comes to your mind is "hehe boobs" in other words, literally nothing of value. A tired psychological phenomena that has been studied over and over. The sexual objectification of women. Books upon books have been written on this subject and the scientific consensus seems to be that it's harmful towards the perception of women in society. So then you make a crude, unfunny joke at this person and another person near you objects and rationally explains why this might cause this person harm. Low and behold, the person might actually be more reluctant to *trust* you next time and you just created a **SOCIAL BARRIER** between each other. The person explaining these things to you, starts to get loads of angry vitriol from the other males in the room. Creating another **SOCIAL BARRIER**. This person might be less reluctant to speak out against what he saw next time it happens. Tell me, who is being socially stigmatized. The people making crude, unwanted jokes and recieving loads of support through people that dont want to hear *any* criticism about it or the people **EXPRESSING THEMSELVES** By showing you their creative outlets and explaining why it might be socially stigmatizing to not be considerate of others? If we where to say that the people saying the jokes are being socially stigmatized, that begs the question, if this is the case, why is it that they where aided through shit tons of incoherent angry backlash *against* criticism while the opposite part who was being calm and respectful barely got any? If we where to say the opposite part where being socially stigmatized, we could easily point to so many scenarios that might make them reluctant to speak their minds next time they engage with people. Social stigma is going to exist no matter how hard we try to get rid of it. The internet is not free of social stigma and is very similar to real life in that respect. The important part is understanding peer pressure which is a social human phenomena and cannot be taken away and exploiting it to make sure that the social stigma is directed towards what we value the most. Understanding, love, compassion, rationality, reason logic. Not vitiriol, objectification, hate, apathy.

  • Bernita Mills

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